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http://kotaku.com/5165091/bioshock-2-warns-theres-something-in-the-sea
http://www.somethinginthesea.com/
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http://kotaku.com/5165091/bioshock-2-warns-theres-something-in-the-sea
http://www.somethinginthesea.com/
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I'm starting to find that discussing and thinking about BioShock is more interesting than actually playing it...
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That map reminded me of Silent Hunter 3 somehow.
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at least this is a start. reminds me of the cloverfield site.
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I've just found out this site, and guys, I know all this is going to sound crazy, but I think I figured it all out. Every, last, bit.
Now, before I jump and say what all of this means, I want to start by saying that all those who were hoping for a prequel should now be throughly dissapointed, because it's pretty clear that this is a sequel. For instance, all the dates show that the year is 1967, which is exactly seven years after the events of BioShock and eight years after the New Years Revolt of '59. But There's Something in the Sea has given us a heck of a lot more than just a time, they've given us a setting. Mainly Liscannor city, at Liscannor Bay, Ireland, and, to be more precise, the cliffs of Moher, where a small cottage owned by the Clune family was a attacked and a young girl, Maura Clune, was kidnapped.
It is her story that will be the appex of Bioshock 2: Sea of Dreams.
We find out that the events of the teaser, (where a young girl raises up a city of sand using telekinesis) are actually true events and that the beach is Lehinch Beach and the Little Sister name is Maura Clune. The date of when this happens is uncertain, but the date of her kidnapping is extremely clear. Feb. 18, '67. I will very shortly go over the particulars of her kidnapping:
Maura's parents are Eamon Clune (44) and Charlotte Clune (32). They reported that at 1:45 A.M. A extremely fast figure broke their window kidnapped their daughter and then ran out, and that Eamon gave chase but the kidnapper outran him even though he was weighed down by Maura. Immediately they contacted the Gaurds, who are overseen by Seargant Michael Whelan, who now stay vigil over the cottage incase the kidnapper contacts them again. The only description that Eamon could give was that the figure was fast, had a red light that was coming from it's head, which he believed was a helmet of some sort.
Because of this event, a Detective (never mentioned by name) becomes intrigued and takes the case for one reason or another. He finds a newspaper article, written one day before the kidnapping, about a man named Jeremiah Lynch, who found a set of footprints on the sand of Lahinch Beach (spelt Lehinch on site), which he believes (at that time, one day before the attack) to belong to some unidentified creature, due to the strange toe shape at the heel. He mentions that it's unique because "it's feet are shod", and because the "metalic shole" (as in metal boots) "do not resemble any military or civilian footwear" that the creature that made it had "a unusually long stride". Lynch has a reputation for being eccentric, and that the Gaurds only recently dealt with him due to his claimed sighting of seeing "mysterious crimson lights" under Liscannor Bay. All the stuff in quotations were circled by our mysterious Detective who then wrote that he would contact Lynch immediately.
The Detective did and the next day he got a letter from Lynch which was enclosed with a picture of a doll...a very familiar looking doll. The doll of the girl from the teaser, a doll that was found on Lahinch Beach a week before the attack, and a doll that he believes belonged to the missing girl, Maura, and that it was actually a depiction of the attacker, due to the fact the head could be depicted as a helmet and the feet as metalic boots, which match the description that the Clunes gave. Understandably, the Detective thought Lynch was crazy but despite his misgivings the two stayed in contact, for three weeks later, on March 9th 1967, Lynch finally gave the pictures of the footprints he took on the 17th. Here we see that the said footprints are remarkably small only 7.5 inches, a full 3 inches smaller than the average male foot sizes, and not possibly suiting our Big Daddy attacker.
Because, that's exactly what Maura's attacker was, a Big Daddy.
Now, there's one last mystery that I didn't understand until I saw the picture with all the dates on the map instead of the only one date: the Feb. 20th date. I had wondered, after I had set up this timeline, why Feb. 20th was important. It was the day of that newspaper article, but other then that, why would it be noted? Maura was kidnapped on the 18th. The shoeprints found on the 17th. The teaser scene couldn't be on the 20th, because Maura was already kidnapped by then. But then, looking at all the dates, and looking at the flyer which says, "What is the strange red light that has been seen in coastal waters worldwide?" It became clear.
The 20th is the date where the first sighting of the "red light" is seen.
So, here's my final timeline.
Feb ? : Lynch's original red light sighting.
Right before or even on Feb 11th: Maura's sandcastle scene.
Feb 11th: Lynch finds doll.
Feb 17th: Lynch footwear findings.
Feb 18th: Maura's kidnapping. Detective contacts Lynch. Lynch provides picture of Maura's doll and gives his theory of it being a "icon" or "fetish" of the attacker. Detective is skeptical.
Feb 20th: Newspaper article about kidnapping comes out. Red lights become noticed by everyone.
March 9: Lynch gives Detective footprint pictures. Investigation still ongoing.
March 15 - September 29: Worldwide red light sightings. Multiple Little Sister kidnappings?
Now, it's rather clear that the attacker is a Big Daddy. The clues about the "red light from his head", which is probably a "helmet", and Lynch's hunch (who is clearly the steortypical nutty theorist that no one believes but is right nevertheless) about the Big Daddy doll being a depiction of the attacker cements that. It's also clear why the Big Daddy would want to kidnap Maura, it's because of his conditioning. Now, here's some main questions though.
Is the Big Daddy the cause of the red lights?
It'll make sense. The Big Daddy comes out of the sea, Lynch sees the red light from his initial leaving, and finds the footprints on the beach that the Big Daddy left behind. The Big Daddy takes the girl and then goes back into the sea: back into Rapture, two days later. Red lights reappear. However, there are two problems with this. First off, the shoeprints on the shore are way too small to belong to a Big Daddy, despite Lynch thinking they belong to a metallic sole that matches neither militaristic or civilian footwear. Secondly, what is the Big Daddy doing that causes the entire friken sea to glow red? Yes, his diving suit helmet's "eyes" turn red when he's angry, but that shouldn't make the sea turn red. Also, what is the Big Daddy doing for two days? How come no one realized that the attacker was a huge guy in a diving suit? I know it was dark, but jeesh!
Is the same Big Daddy the cause of all the other red light sightings? Are their multiple dissapearances?
If it is the Big Daddy, then it would make sense that each of these sightings is due to the Big Daddy coming out the sea, capturing a Little Sister, and going back into the sea. Somehow or another, him leaving causes the sea to glow. However, if this is the case, it reveals much more.
It reveals that there are sixteen Little Sisters, all spread out along the Atlantic Coast.
There were 21 Little Sisters in all.
Guess how many that leaves?
You guessed it. 5. Guess how many Little Sisters Jack took care of in the Good Ending?
You see where I'm going here, right?
I believe this game takes place immediately after the good ending of BioShock. A Big Daddy or group of Big Daddys are going around kidnapping the Little Sisters that have been adopted into cities all around the world. (Which, for some reason, were all coastal cities on the Atlantic Coast - I smell plot loophole!) For some reason or another, due to the Big Daddy's coming, a red glow spreads in the water. The Big Daddy (s) have taken all the Little Sisters save 5. The five that Jack protects.
At least three new characters will make a apperance. Jeremiah Lynch: wacky theorist. The Detective, who is trying to figure it all out. And Seargant Michael Whelan, leader of the Gaurds, who is trying to protect the Clune family and knows of Lynch. Part of the game may or may not be set in Liscannor, Ireland. You'll probably play as Jack again.
And some thought you couldn't get a story out of the Good Ending...
Edit: A Inconsistancy!
1. Now that I'm really thinking about it, Maura doesn't really look like the girl in the teaser at all. For instance, the girl in the teaser had this sort of wild hair that stuck out a bit behind her head, but Maura has pigtails. Also, the girl in the teaser had this white dress, but Maura is clearly wearing some sort of flanel colared shirt. But both your hairstyle and the clothes you wear can be changed, though it does make you wonder why she made such a significant change if the picture in the article is what she normally looks like.
Now, before I jump and say what all of this means, I want to start by saying that all those who were hoping for a prequel should now be throughly dissapointed, because it's pretty clear that this is a sequel. For instance, all the dates show that the year is 1967, which is exactly seven years after the events of BioShock and eight years after the New Years Revolt of '59. But There's Something in the Sea has given us a heck of a lot more than just a time, they've given us a setting. Mainly Liscannor city, at Liscannor Bay, Ireland, and, to be more precise, the cliffs of Moher, where a small cottage owned by the Clune family was a attacked and a young girl, Maura Clune, was kidnapped.
It is her story that will be the appex of Bioshock 2: Sea of Dreams.
We find out that the events of the teaser, (where a young girl raises up a city of sand using telekinesis) are actually true events and that the beach is Lehinch Beach and the Little Sister name is Maura Clune. The date of when this happens is uncertain, but the date of her kidnapping is extremely clear. Feb. 18, '67. I will very shortly go over the particulars of her kidnapping:
Maura's parents are Eamon Clune (44) and Charlotte Clune (32). They reported that at 1:45 A.M. A extremely fast figure broke their window kidnapped their daughter and then ran out, and that Eamon gave chase but the kidnapper outran him even though he was weighed down by Maura. Immediately they contacted the Gaurds, who are overseen by Seargant Michael Whelan, who now stay vigil over the cottage incase the kidnapper contacts them again. The only description that Eamon could give was that the figure was fast, had a red light that was coming from it's head, which he believed was a helmet of some sort.
Because of this event, a Detective (never mentioned by name) becomes intrigued and takes the case for one reason or another. He finds a newspaper article, written one day before the kidnapping, about a man named Jeremiah Lynch, who found a set of footprints on the sand of Lahinch Beach (spelt Lehinch on site), which he believes (at that time, one day before the attack) to belong to some unidentified creature, due to the strange toe shape at the heel. He mentions that it's unique because "it's feet are shod", and because the "metalic shole" (as in metal boots) "do not resemble any military or civilian footwear" that the creature that made it had "a unusually long stride". Lynch has a reputation for being eccentric, and that the Gaurds only recently dealt with him due to his claimed sighting of seeing "mysterious crimson lights" under Liscannor Bay. All the stuff in quotations were circled by our mysterious Detective who then wrote that he would contact Lynch immediately.
The Detective did and the next day he got a letter from Lynch which was enclosed with a picture of a doll...a very familiar looking doll. The doll of the girl from the teaser, a doll that was found on Lahinch Beach a week before the attack, and a doll that he believes belonged to the missing girl, Maura, and that it was actually a depiction of the attacker, due to the fact the head could be depicted as a helmet and the feet as metalic boots, which match the description that the Clunes gave. Understandably, the Detective thought Lynch was crazy but despite his misgivings the two stayed in contact, for three weeks later, on March 9th 1967, Lynch finally gave the pictures of the footprints he took on the 17th. Here we see that the said footprints are remarkably small only 7.5 inches, a full 3 inches smaller than the average male foot sizes, and not possibly suiting our Big Daddy attacker.
Because, that's exactly what Maura's attacker was, a Big Daddy.
Now, there's one last mystery that I didn't understand until I saw the picture with all the dates on the map instead of the only one date: the Feb. 20th date. I had wondered, after I had set up this timeline, why Feb. 20th was important. It was the day of that newspaper article, but other then that, why would it be noted? Maura was kidnapped on the 18th. The shoeprints found on the 17th. The teaser scene couldn't be on the 20th, because Maura was already kidnapped by then. But then, looking at all the dates, and looking at the flyer which says, "What is the strange red light that has been seen in coastal waters worldwide?" It became clear.
The 20th is the date where the first sighting of the "red light" is seen.
So, here's my final timeline.
Feb ? : Lynch's original red light sighting.
Right before or even on Feb 11th: Maura's sandcastle scene.
Feb 11th: Lynch finds doll.
Feb 17th: Lynch footwear findings.
Feb 18th: Maura's kidnapping. Detective contacts Lynch. Lynch provides picture of Maura's doll and gives his theory of it being a "icon" or "fetish" of the attacker. Detective is skeptical.
Feb 20th: Newspaper article about kidnapping comes out. Red lights become noticed by everyone.
March 9: Lynch gives Detective footprint pictures. Investigation still ongoing.
March 15 - September 29: Worldwide red light sightings. Multiple Little Sister kidnappings?
Now, it's rather clear that the attacker is a Big Daddy. The clues about the "red light from his head", which is probably a "helmet", and Lynch's hunch (who is clearly the steortypical nutty theorist that no one believes but is right nevertheless) about the Big Daddy doll being a depiction of the attacker cements that. It's also clear why the Big Daddy would want to kidnap Maura, it's because of his conditioning. Now, here's some main questions though.
Is the Big Daddy the cause of the red lights?
It'll make sense. The Big Daddy comes out of the sea, Lynch sees the red light from his initial leaving, and finds the footprints on the beach that the Big Daddy left behind. The Big Daddy takes the girl and then goes back into the sea: back into Rapture, two days later. Red lights reappear. However, there are two problems with this. First off, the shoeprints on the shore are way too small to belong to a Big Daddy, despite Lynch thinking they belong to a metallic sole that matches neither militaristic or civilian footwear. Secondly, what is the Big Daddy doing that causes the entire friken sea to glow red? Yes, his diving suit helmet's "eyes" turn red when he's angry, but that shouldn't make the sea turn red. Also, what is the Big Daddy doing for two days? How come no one realized that the attacker was a huge guy in a diving suit? I know it was dark, but jeesh!
Is the same Big Daddy the cause of all the other red light sightings? Are their multiple dissapearances?
If it is the Big Daddy, then it would make sense that each of these sightings is due to the Big Daddy coming out the sea, capturing a Little Sister, and going back into the sea. Somehow or another, him leaving causes the sea to glow. However, if this is the case, it reveals much more.
It reveals that there are sixteen Little Sisters, all spread out along the Atlantic Coast.
There were 21 Little Sisters in all.
Guess how many that leaves?
You guessed it. 5. Guess how many Little Sisters Jack took care of in the Good Ending?
You see where I'm going here, right?
I believe this game takes place immediately after the good ending of BioShock. A Big Daddy or group of Big Daddys are going around kidnapping the Little Sisters that have been adopted into cities all around the world. (Which, for some reason, were all coastal cities on the Atlantic Coast - I smell plot loophole!) For some reason or another, due to the Big Daddy's coming, a red glow spreads in the water. The Big Daddy (s) have taken all the Little Sisters save 5. The five that Jack protects.
At least three new characters will make a apperance. Jeremiah Lynch: wacky theorist. The Detective, who is trying to figure it all out. And Seargant Michael Whelan, leader of the Gaurds, who is trying to protect the Clune family and knows of Lynch. Part of the game may or may not be set in Liscannor, Ireland. You'll probably play as Jack again.
And some thought you couldn't get a story out of the Good Ending...
Edit: A Inconsistancy!
1. Now that I'm really thinking about it, Maura doesn't really look like the girl in the teaser at all. For instance, the girl in the teaser had this sort of wild hair that stuck out a bit behind her head, but Maura has pigtails. Also, the girl in the teaser had this white dress, but Maura is clearly wearing some sort of flanel colared shirt. But both your hairstyle and the clothes you wear can be changed, though it does make you wonder why she made such a significant change if the picture in the article is what she normally looks like.
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Mostly sounds plausible, though you may be focusing too much on the first disappearance. Additional details may be revealed for the later ones too. The Clunes etc. may not be that important in the long run.
The smaller footprints are presumably those of some splicer scouting beforehand.
The red light in the seas could be from some bathysphere type craft. Glowing red because of being filled with hundreds of angry Big Daddys!!!1
The smaller footprints are presumably those of some splicer scouting beforehand.
The red light in the seas could be from some bathysphere type craft. Glowing red because of being filled with hundreds of angry Big Daddys!!!1
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Mostly sounds plausible, though you may be focusing too much on the first disappearance. Additional details may be revealed for the later ones too. The Clunes etc. may not be that important in the long run.
The smaller footprints are presumably those of some splicer scouting beforehand.
The red light in the seas could be from some bathysphere type craft. Glowing red because of being filled with hundreds of angry Big Daddys!!!1
The reason why I'm focusing on the first dissapearance so much is because I think it'll be a critical part of the game. All the major characters (Detective, Lynch, Whelan, and the Clunes) and the settings mentioned on the site all surround Maura's dissapearance. And, most importantly of all, it's the beginning. Storys tend to start at the beginning and stop at the end.
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Who says those 'major' characters or locations will be in the game?
Unless you think the story will go through each and every kidnapping location in turn?
It's viral marketing. The Dark Knight didn't focus on Dent's election campaign, Cloverfield didn't focus on deep sea drilling - why do you think this first piece of viral advertising is telling us where and when the game will take place and who the main characters are?
Also your idea that the girls being kidnapped are ex-little sisters doesn't work. Maura Clune was 7 years old. So she wasn't even born at the time of the first game...
Saying that the kidnapped girls were all relocated to the Atlantic coast "I smell a plot loophole" is incorrect. I smell a theory loophole.
This also means that it doesn't necessarily follow on directly from the good ending.
It could be that the kidnapped girls had something done the them (or their mothers) prior to birth and are now being taken to replace the Little Sisters from the first game. The timing kinda works for that.
Unless you think the story will go through each and every kidnapping location in turn?
It's viral marketing. The Dark Knight didn't focus on Dent's election campaign, Cloverfield didn't focus on deep sea drilling - why do you think this first piece of viral advertising is telling us where and when the game will take place and who the main characters are?
Also your idea that the girls being kidnapped are ex-little sisters doesn't work. Maura Clune was 7 years old. So she wasn't even born at the time of the first game...
Saying that the kidnapped girls were all relocated to the Atlantic coast "I smell a plot loophole" is incorrect. I smell a theory loophole.
This also means that it doesn't necessarily follow on directly from the good ending.
It could be that the kidnapped girls had something done the them (or their mothers) prior to birth and are now being taken to replace the Little Sisters from the first game. The timing kinda works for that.
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Who says those 'major' characters or locations will be in the game?
Unless you think the story will go through each and every kidnapping location in turn?
It's viral marketing. The Dark Knight didn't focus on Dent's election campaign, Cloverfield didn't focus on deep sea drilling - why do you think this first piece of viral advertising is telling us where and when the game will take place and who the main characters are?
Also your idea that the girls being kidnapped are ex-little sisters doesn't work. Maura Clune was 7 years old. So she wasn't even born at the time of the first game...
Saying that the kidnapped girls were all relocated to the Atlantic coast "I smell a plot loophole" is incorrect. I smell a theory loophole.
This also means that it doesn't necessarily follow on directly from the good ending.
It could be that the kidnapped girls had something done the them (or their mothers) prior to birth and are now being taken to replace the Little Sisters from the first game. The timing kinda works for that.
Oh good! I was wondering when you'd start to turn to the theory at hand.
I think the first point was just miswording on my part. I don't really think the new characters will be main ones, though I do think its possible. But I do suspect they'll show up, at least, that is, if 2K is actually going to stay true to the info given to us on the site, which they very well don't have to. So main characters - maybe. Characters? Definitely. (I think the throwing in the main was really my hidden urge to see Jeremiah Lynch in action, I think the fella is rather interesting).
But viral marketing always gives us information that is in the game. Dent was a real character, and he was really running for office. There was really deep sea drilling going on in Cloverfield. Also, Dent and his election was a rather big part of the Dark Knight, why should we assume that this won't be a big part of Sea of Dreams? Now, as I admitted before, it may not be the biggest part, it may not be even a big part, heck, it may only show up in a reference of, "Hey, have ya ever heard of that Maura kid? Heard she was kidnapped." But, nevertheless, I'm sure it'll be in there.
I'm mostly sticking to the fact the girls that are being kidnapped are Little Sisters because it is the only reason that I can think of for the Big Daddy's wanting to kidnap them. Personally, I think its possible that they are a lot older than they look but are only said to be seven because that's how it appears on the outside. After all, every single Little Sister in BioShock looked identical, but are we to assume that they are all related, all the same age, and all have been Little Sisters for the same amount of time? Especially when we know for a fact that the scientists messed with their genes? Also, if Maura isn't a Little Sister, how come she has a Big Daddy doll? How come she's has telekinesis, which is clearly a sign that she's been to Rapture and has a plasmid? Now, some people have speculated that the teaser girl might be the daughter of a Little Sister, and that might work for the Big Daddys wanting to kidnap them. But I always, far before I saw the stuff on that site, had a problem with this theory. For instance, why would the Big Daddy not kidnap the mother? She's the actual Little Sister. Why the daughter? But, anyway, this theory doesn't even hold up anymore because we know its been seven years since the events of BioShock. That means all the Little Sisters would be in their preteens or teenage years. Unless, of course, they still look the same as before.
And yes, it is a loophole, but no its not a theory loophole because my theory isn't that each of the red light sightings means also that a kidnapping took place. I merely said that it was possible, and that, if this was the case, then it'll mean that only 5 Little Sisters were left and that it was indicative of this being after the Good Ending. I realize the language was a bit stronger there near the end, but I simply wished to make my case. Personally, I would like it to be after the Good Ending, but it can lean either way.
I have to say though, I have no idea what your trying to get at with your last comment of the kidnapped girls having had "something done to them" and that they were going to be "replacement Little Sisters". What was done to them? By whom? Why? Why would they need replacement Little Sisters? What happened to the originals? Who is leading this charge and able to actually think that such a thing is neccesary? The Big Daddies? When a Little Sister is taken from them, they look for them, but if that Little Sister is killed, they wander aimlessly. There's not much left in there to do the thinking and plotting. The same goes for the splicers. Why would they want to go to the surface anyway? I understand the Big Daddys going to any length to retrive the "stolen" Little Sisters and bringing them back, but why would splicers care about such a thing. This theory naturally assumes that this takes place after the Bad Ending. Also, theres not even the slightest evidence that anything was done to Maura (or any of the other girls if any other girls were kidnapped). Could you please explain a bit more? I'm very confused.
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Quite possibly pregnant women or newborns in various places were stealthily given plasmid treatments in order to create potential Little Sisters to replace the old ones and harvest more ADAM. It would explain why seven year old girl(s) were of interest to Big Daddy's and whoever the other footprints belong to (splicers?). Obviously any splicers left in Rapture would want access to ADAM again.
We know the old ones either left Rapture (good) or died (evil). This theory assumes neither ending.
I have no idea why you think the Little Sisters don't age given that the ex-Little Sister in the teaser video looked much older. Oh I know, because it fits your theory :naughty:
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No this doesn't explain anything. I was under the impression that Rapture was a secret from the surface world, I've seen many mentions of it throughout the web. So, that means someone on the surface not only had to know about Rapture, but then had to go into Rapture, get plasmids, tell the Big Daddys about thier nefarious plot (for how else would the Big Daddys and Splicers know about the girls with the plasmid treatments up above?) then go and randomly select little girls along the coast of the Atlantic without anyone noticing, and have to do this all in between the time of the end of Bioshock (where Rapture is possibly run by a evil dictator) until present. And they are wasting such valuable time and recourses for no apparent reason, because what use would such girls be to them?
Also, you ignored all the evidence I gave. Let's say, for the sake of it, that the teaser girl was not Maura. This means a young girl was on Lehinch Beach, with a Big Daddy doll, who possessed a plasmid, and was staring out at the sea. Several days later a Big Daddy appears in the very same town, right next to the very same beach, but doesn't go after the mysterious girl who is likely a Little Sister and instead kidnaps Random Girl B. Which, can only make sense if Random Girl B is part of a weird, nefarious plot not even hinted in on the site. Two girls. Both of similar age. Why can't they be one and the same? It makes more sense. The only thing that goes against it is that you say that the teaser girl looks to be a pre-teen. I don't think she does. I see a little girl, a tall, gangly, little girl. Besides, I'm seventeen and I've met a elven year old boy who was taler than me. Guessing ages is a unsure science. I think the teaser girl could easily have been seven - twelve years of age.
I'm not stating it as a fact. It's just speculation. But it could easily be a side-effect. Rapture did a whole heck of a lot of tampering with these girl's genes. Why couldn't they look younger than they really were? By no means am I stating that these girls won't ever age. That's just plain stupidity and leans more to magic then science. Also, whose to say all the other girls that'll get kidnapped all are going to be seven in age? They can all be preteens. It could just be that this one looks young. Or even possibly that Bridgette and Jack did something to her to make her look younger before they handed her over to the Clunes, as a sort of precaution. After all, 21 girls that look identical are sure to be a tiny bit suspicious.
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Are you being thick on purpose?
I'm saying that someone from Rapture may have meddled with newborn girls just after the events of Bioshock to set up replacement Little Sisters to be taken once they reached an appropriate age.
What are you talking about? There is no link between the trailer girl and Maura beyond having a Big Daddy doll - which any ex-Little Sister or pre-Little Sister may make...
The girl in the trailer definitely looks older than 7. She looks more like she's one of the grown up little sisters, so probably ~14.
I'm saying that someone from Rapture may have meddled with newborn girls just after the events of Bioshock to set up replacement Little Sisters to be taken once they reached an appropriate age.
What are you talking about? There is no link between the trailer girl and Maura beyond having a Big Daddy doll - which any ex-Little Sister or pre-Little Sister may make...
The girl in the trailer definitely looks older than 7. She looks more like she's one of the grown up little sisters, so probably ~14.
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No, I'm not trying to be thick or controversial at all, and I'm sorry if it appears that way. I'm merely trying to say I don't think your theory is all that strong. It doesn't really have any solid foundation or evidence to back it up. But that's not neccesarily a bad thing. Anything is possible. Also, I wasn't clear that you thought the one who were creating the "replacement" Little Sisters were from Rapture, though that still brings up a lot of problems. Like, for instance, who is the brains of the operation? Big Daddys and Splicers just won't cut it. How could they have gone to the surface? Why would Big Daddys care about creating "replacement" Little Sisters when there are still Little Sisters out there? Things like that. I'm not saying that I don't get the argument, I'm saying I don't think it stands.
Yes, there's the link of the fact that they both are in the same place. The beach that the teaser girl was on was Lahinch Beach, which is the same beach that Maura and her family live near and the same beach that Lynch found the footprints and the doll on. Or did you merely think it was a coincidence that the teaser trailers doll was on Lahinch Beach and that the teaser beach she was on was actually some other beach than that one? As for the last part, I guess we must agree to disagree here. I think she can simply look a lot older than she really is or that the age could be wrong. Due to how little information we have now the possibilites could be endless.
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What can I say? I'm rather long-winded. :thumbs:
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And why was the pictured footprint slightly smaller than a normal foot? Then again it could be some kind of new big daddy designed for kidnapping but that sounds kinda lame.
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I actually mentioned that in my original analysis. I stated that it was a problem for the theory, but I think Lynch's notes on how the doll is meant to depict the attacker and all the comments about the attacker having a helmet and "red lights coming from his head" seemed to indicate too strongly for my tastes for the attacker to be anything other than a Big Daddy. I don't know what those prints belonged to, but I don't think it was a Big Daddy, Ejit suggested it might be a Splicer footprint, which is very possible.
As for why the attacker was described thin, that's another problem. But I think it can possibly be solved by the simply having Eamon Clune not get a acurate look at the Big Daddy, or, more interestingly, having him flat out lie for whatever reason. Perhaps he knows the actual story of Rapture and is trying to keep it a secret? Who knows?
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Hey. Don't feel bad about that. That was my initial reaction too, but then I went into "I'm gonna tear the site apart and soak away all info I can" mode. I literally took out sheets of paper and scribbled down everything I could get from the site onto it. I ended up with three pages. One front and back and a second just with the front. I feel rather proud of myself for that, actually.
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Haha. I sea what you did there.
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If that's true, then it'll solve a whole heck of a lot of issues. Like why the attacker was descriped as thin, why the footprints were so small, why the pink ribbon was there, yet still explain why the attacker was described as having metalic soles, a helmet which had red light on it and looked similar to the Big Daddy (Big Sister?) doll.
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Why? It's just another variant of the Big Daddy. Besides, it only makes sense that there would be some female version of the Big Daddy. Rapture wasn't sexist, if there was someone who had skill they'll probably take them, regardless of gender.
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It just seems like a lame idea. I mean , big daddies were creepy because they were huge , brutish , sluggish (unless they was to charge) and inhuman. A variant that is fast , nimble and female just decimates every thing that made the Rosie and Bouncer odd. And because they are female it would make them seem a lot less monstrous , of course this would only apply if you could tell they were female such as a protruding chest (no I don't mean visible breasts just the indication they have breasts) and womanly hips. Of course this is all just opinion so please don't feel that I am trying to convince you I am right .
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It just seems like a lame idea. I mean , big daddies were creepy because they were huge , brutish , sluggish (unless they was to charge) and inhuman. A variant that is fast , nimble and female just decimates every thing that made the Rosie and Bouncer odd. And because they are female it would make them seem a lot less monstrous , of course this would only apply if you could tell they were female such as a protruding chest (no I don't mean visible breasts just the indication they have breasts) and womanly hips. Of course this is all just opinion so please don't feel that I am trying to convince you I am right
I do see where your coming from. But I feel as long as the normal Big Daddys are still there, then it's alrigh for a bit of change. Besides, I have enough trust in 2K after playing through BioShock that I can trust them to make small changes like this without entirely ruining a character concept. And who knows, there might not be any indication that the "Big Sister" is in fact female, so we might just have to fight a thin, incredibly fast, Big Daddy. Which, I think, would be very fun. (Since the original Big Daddys were already fast to begin with)
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Holy freakin' crap! It changed!
Go to the site! Now!
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It's the same attacker. Each night a girl vanishes: age 5 to 7. Red light always appears on the coast. They all look similiar. Two of the girls are sisters, Camille Dumas and Chantal Dumas, but they live seperately, one with a family, one with a orphanage. (Note: Family has same last name - why?) One of the girls had nightmares. Will write more and be more concise once I process it all.
Maybe I should just wait until all the info is given to us...
I think they're going by country. The three from Spain should be next.
Go to the site! Now!
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It's the same attacker. Each night a girl vanishes: age 5 to 7. Red light always appears on the coast. They all look similiar. Two of the girls are sisters, Camille Dumas and Chantal Dumas, but they live seperately, one with a family, one with a orphanage. (Note: Family has same last name - why?) One of the girls had nightmares. Will write more and be more concise once I process it all.
Maybe I should just wait until all the info is given to us...
I think they're going by country. The three from Spain should be next.
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This may seem like a bit of a stretch but after reading some of the new reports on the red glow maybe it could be the sub seen in some of the endings to the first game? Though this theory is obviously full of holes such as the glow being seemingly too small and where the red glow is coming from on the sub. But its the only thing I can think of because the glow seems too big for a lone big daddy (sister?) to make.
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But all the news reports indicate that its the same attacker. Why would one attacker need an entire sub to move around in? Especially if it's a Big Daddy who has a diving suit?
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We don't know neccesarily that the attacker is taking them to Rapture. I theorized it because it made sense, and, if the theory is right, yes the Little Sisters need a way of moving underwater, but right now all we know for certain is that every time a red glow is seen in the water a little girl is kidnapped.
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