Black people loot, white people find

DeusExMachinia said:
Your guessing's wrong.
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Could you explain it, then? If you were stuck in a flood with your family, and had a choice between going out and finding food, or stealing a dvd player, why would you go and get the dvd player? or tv or whatever. Theres really nothing you can do with it, no outlets, probably waterlogged anyway, and it's gonna be a bitch transporting if your car's completely submerged :S
 
what does that mean? white people arent capable of stealing tvs?
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Didn't say that.
for stealing? that's a little extreme dont you think? who gives you the right to judge others? ..I see you as a threat (you have a gun and are threatening to shoot looters) ..bang you're dead
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These people have degenerated to animals. You've seen the reports. You've heard how they shoot each other as they dig through their stolen crap.
Take off the rose colored glasses.
Don't even try to like act like you wouldn't loot either. When an entire city is at your grasp, you can't just deny it. Hell, if I happen to live through that and find myself near a bunch of stores, I'm going to yell out "Fate".
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You can act like an animal all you want. I prefer to rise above it.
lol and your gonna shoot me for taking a few DVDs? Wow. Your a nice guy. Tell me, am I hurting anyone in the long run? Am I hurting ANYONE at all? No. I see something free, I'm gonna take a sample. I'm not going to start shooting cops who try to arrest me. I'm not gonna shoot anyone or hurt anyone.
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Not worth commenting.
I'll HELP people get into grocery stores for food because I give a goddamn. You can go trigger happy on looters if you want though, have fun. Why not start shooting anyone who comes near you? They might have knives, they might have a disease. You might as well start shooting anyone near you right now.
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I have no problem with looting anything that is necessary for survival. That set of DVDs isn't.
or tv or whatever. Theres really nothing you can do with it, no outlets, probably waterlogged anyway, and it's gonna be a bitch transporting if your car's completely submerged :S
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Oh yeah, haha. Good luck getting your stolen crap out of the city.
Well they'll probably find a way to hide those diamond earings *sigh*
 
Que-Ever said:
Could you explain it, then? If you were stuck in a flood with your family, and had a choice between going out and finding food, or stealing a dvd player, why would you go and get the dvd player? or tv or whatever. Theres really nothing you can do with it, no outlets, probably waterlogged anyway, and it's gonna be a bitch transporting if your car's completely submerged :S
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Obviously if I have family with me, they're more important. Your taking my post out of context. Not only was I joking (I guess my lack of sarcasm and my other post to Miccy made it seem like I was very serious), but it was based on the fact if I was alone. If I was alone, I'd probably get food, maybe a few more precious items and try to find my way out of the city. If my family was with me, I'd be worried about them. Like I said, you assumed I wouldn't care, but I would. I'd probably help people I didn't even know because I care. And if you don't believe me, well go ahead. You don't know me, your opinion is meaningless to me.

And mr. Narc, just because people are turning into animals doesn't mean you need to go and start shooting them (unless its in self-defense of you or another of course). Its not very Christian like to murder people because they grabbed a television or a DVD player.

What the hell is this topic about again?
 
I had a feeling you were being sarcastic, but there were other people who had said (nearly) the same thing and meant it, and you were the first to reply to me, so you received hte brunt of my argument. I apologize... and anyway, true, I don't know you, but I do believe you.
 
Well thank you. I understand what you mean. I will admit I'm human, if I see something shiny, I just might take it, but its not to say my family and our safety doesn't come first. I'll have to stop acting serious when I'm not, bad habit.
 
White poeple were looting too... I found it funny, watching the news stories, how they would show these black fellows breaking into footlockers and taking 80-90 pairs of air jordans, and then they would show these real sharply dressed white guys in shades breaking into pharmacies taking $30,000 worth in vicodin, probably snickering, "Here's my retirement."
 
I don't think any theft of food and water/medical supplies should be described by the media as "looting." The guy with 10 pairs of shoes in a bag? Sure, you can call him a looter. The others are just trying to survive.
 
You have to bear in mind that the water was chest-high at most of these places. Anything submerged or even touching the water is going to get ruined real fast, whether its produce, electronics, or whatever.

Personally, if i'm in a survival situation I would take whatever I needed. I would never steal from another person, but taking essentials from a huge company that is completely insured to prevent me and others from dying? Hell yes.

But if I see the water rising rapidly towards that kick-ass tv? I would curse myself, but I wouldnt take it. Because I have enough sense to know that it would be of no use whatsoever to survive, and anything outside that is stealing/looting.
 
See, now that guy knows the kickassity of a claw hammer.

I'm not going to lie and say I'm above looting, however.
Like gick said, maybe stop by a walmart or something.
No because I could, so much as because after your house and all your possessions are destroyed, you deserve a little something.
 
gick said:
LOL, thats beautiful.

I would never loot a small business, or individuals/families. However, IMO huge chainstores/companies are fair game.
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2nded.
 
gick said:
LOL, thats beautiful.

I would never loot a small business, or individuals/families. However, IMO huge chainstores/companies are fair game.
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I would imagine that they're all insured against this anyway, but the lawlessness is bad enough.
 
DeusExMachinia said:
I will admit I'm human, if I see something shiny, I just might take it
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Wrong. You are a magpie.

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24 billion in insurance claims ....what's a few more dollars per person if it means they'll survive another day?
 
I heard on the news that "despite the war in Iraq 60% of the National Guard force are still in [whatever state New Orleans is in]" Why is 40% of the National Guard in Iraq?
 
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:dozey: I don't get it, they remove the "find" one, but they kept the "loot" one, why don;t they keep the more positive one? WTF!
 
This would actually be one of the few times when the huge military budget of the US could pay off. Only 15% of the US military capacity is in Iraq or Afghanistan. Why don't use the rest? And then I don't mean some poor bastards from the National Guard, but the Army, the Marines, The Navy, the Airforce. Hell, even the Coast Guard.
 
Shoudlnt the departement of defence be defending rather than attacking Iraq?
 
solaris152000 said:
Shoudlnt the departement of defence be defending rather than attacking Iraq?
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PRE-EMPTIVE DEFENCE !!!!1111111ONEHUNDREDANDELEVEN

The best defence is to just go out and attack everyone and make sure they can't attack you, so you need not actually defend at all. Nice to see that the good ol' World Police are coping so well in their own homes.
 
A good defense requires a good offense. ;)
 
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this thread is rife with... well, just outright stupid things to say. the photo's are from two different news agencies. they were probably sick of using the word loot. people are so quick to find racist bullshit in everything. and lets just be honest with ourselves. there are LOTS of black people in new orleans. so there are going to be lots of pictures of black people looting, because proportionately there are lots of black people. not only that, the areas in question have a predominately BLACK population. thats like me getting pissed at a bunch of pictures if all the people in white center in seattle started looting: they'd all be black!

lets be honest. there is a difference between taking some bread and taking a garbage bag full of stuff. i dont know why you people assume the best in these looters, but i am willing to assume (regardless of skin color) that there is something other than food in that garbage bag. probably because there is beer right next to it. beer is not necessary for survival. if that person was so concerned with their families well being that would be a bunch of water.
 
I was Gonna Post this same thread, In every single newspaper picture it shows Black People Looting, And It Shows White People looking all inocent and Sad, No Black People Are Sad, Stupid Racist Media
 
Um are you kidding me about the no blacks sad thing? The hell they aren't, especially that Harvey Jackson video he lost his wife. So depressing.

The reason there are more black people shown on TV is because blacks are the majority in New Orleans, 70%ish of the population is black. (haven't seen recent figures may have fluctuated but not much)

I don't think there's anything racial in it at all, it's just highlighting the demographics. If it happened in a majority white city and most people on TV looting were white it's not racism either.. it just matched the population cutout.

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Races in New Orleans:

Black (67.3%)
White Non-Hispanic (26.6%)
Hispanic (3.1%)
Vietnamese (1.5%)
Two or more races (1.3%)
Other race (0.9%)
American Indian (0.5%)
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Orleans-Louisiana.html
 
Interesting Also:

Was watching Channel 7 on Cable and the looters were shooting at a US BlackHawk! The chopper was evacuating those with serious medical conditions. Also, the shot at a bus and a few ambulances and they were trying to break into the hospital.

Also, funny, the rest of the world claims we were stingy when we only gave $3 Billion to the Tsunami fund. I dont see any donations from ANYONE for the people of New Orleans.


My view on the looting is thus: It is OK to take what you need to survive, but it is not ok to "liberate" items like TVs, DVDs etc. Basically anything that you do not NEED to survive, you dont touch. Also, you do not shoot at the people trying to help you. You also do not loot places that are helping others IE hospital, the superbowl, etc. If i was in the hospital and i saw armed looter trying to break in, you would be damed sure id sit in the lobby with my rifle and only let those who needed medical treatment in. If a looter tried id shoot him dead.

This kind of event shows how close we really are to sinking back into living as tribal animals. All it took was a hurricane, and the first thing that happens when people go back out is looting.
 
Also, funny, the rest of the world claims we were stingy when we only gave $3 Billion to the Tsunami fund. I dont see any donations from ANYONE for the people of New Orleans.
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The offers of aid have come from many countries but have been refused by the present administration. The offers of aid have not been deemed newsworthy in the US.
The IEA are sending the US millions of barrels of oil from emergency reserves to help mitigate the effects of katrina on the oil industry.
 
Kebean PFC said:
Also, funny, the rest of the world claims we were stingy when we only gave $3 Billion to the Tsunami fund. I dont see any donations from ANYONE for the people of New Orleans.
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Nonsense.
The French foreign ministry offered eight aircraft and two ships, with 600 tents and 1 000 camp beds also available at the United States' request.
The central French city of Orleans said it would be sending receipts from sports matches to its younger American sister, as well as offering 50 university places.


Prime Minister Tony Blair said he had spoken to President George W Bush, and Britain was ready to help "in any way that we can".

German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer met US ambassador to Germany, William Robert Timken, and said he had made firm offers of "medicine, water treatment and technology to help find survivors" on behalf of the German government.

Japan offered $200 000 for the American Red Cross and up to $300 000 worth of tents, blankets, power generators and water tanks. Toyota offered five million dollars, Nissan 500 000.

Australia promised A$10m through the American Red Cross.

Canadian Defence Minister Bill Graham said his country was preparing a package, including an offer of military assets. Canada will also boost oil exports to the United States.

Venezuela has formally offered to the US embassy in Caracas money and fuel. In addition, Venezuela said it could send two rapid deployment medical units that can each treat 150 people, 10 water purifiers, eight power generators, 20 tonnes of water, 50 tonnes of canned food and 5 000 blankets.

Among others, the Netherlands, a low-lying country that depends on its system of levees, or dams, has offered to send a team of experts to help plan the reconstruction of New Orleans.

Italy said it was ready to help but had not been contacted.

Sweden offered medical and technical aid.

Lithuania's Red Cross started taking donations and Denmark said it had ordered emergency management officials "to look into the possibilities of sending aid".

Switzerland offered help in reconstruction or the prevention of further catastrophes as well as high-power pumps and other equipment.

The Spanish arm of the Red Cross said it was sending a team of logistical personnel.

"The US Red Cross has asked for aid from 50 to 70 logistical personnel from the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies," the Spanish organisation said.


More poignant were offers from the needy

Sri Lanka - still recovering from the December 26 tsunami which devastated the island's coastlines said it had donated $25 000 and asked doctors to help the relief effort.
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http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Hurricane_Katrina/0,,2-10-1942_1764587,00.html
 
This just in:

HAVANA (AP) - President Fidel Castro announced in a live television broadcast Friday that he had just issued a second offer to the United States to send 1,100 Cuban doctors to help care for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.
"These personnel have international experience and the language skills necessary to attend to patients," Castro said on state television. He said the first 100 doctors have been equipped with backpacks filled with medicine and first aid supplies and are ready to travel as soon as Friday night to Texas, where many of the hurricane victims have been evacuated.

"We are offering life, to save 10, 100, 1,000," said Castro.

The Cuban leader said his government was hoping for a rapid response, "hopefully immediately so as not to lose another minute."
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http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBIUB545DE.html
 
POOR LONESOME AMERICA ISN'T GETTING ANY HELP WAHHHHH

Or not.
 
SAJ said:
The offers of aid have come from many countries but have been refused by the present administration. The offers of aid have not been deemed newsworthy in the US.
The IEA are sending the US millions of barrels of oil from emergency reserves to help mitigate the effects of katrina on the oil industry.
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Don't forget that as far as casualties go, this is FAR smaller an event.
according to the USGS, more than 283,100 people died in the tsunami, google's highest number is 12-15 thousand for the flood.
 
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