Breene, dead or alive?

Yeah, or lack thereof. ****ing son of a bitch.

Anyway: Breen will make a return, hold me to that, and if he doesn't then you can ridicule me all you want. I really don't see Valve turning it into a trite and turgid piece of shit, though. That's just not Valve to me, like, they definitely seem to strive for making an impact with their ideas and such; make them Half-Life's you know.

I don't see them transporting -- or some other silly something -- him into an Advisor's body either. That's just, bleh, and about as lame as you could get. Hoping for something extremely akin to Backman's illustration; assimilation or the such.

The big hint in Episode One, and the inclusions of scrapped ideas, you know, just kinda push the idea.
 
Kaon said:
Yeah, or lack thereof. ****ing son of a bitch.

Anyway: Breen will make a return, hold me to that, and if he doesn't then you can ridicule me all you want. I really don't see Valve turning it into a trite and turgid piece of shit, though. That's just not Valve to me, like, they definitely seem to strive for making an impact with their ideas and such; make them Half-Life's you know.

I don't see them transporting -- or some other silly something -- him into an Advisor's body either. That's just, bleh. Hoping for something extremely akin to Backman's illustration; assimilation or the such.

The big hint in Episode One, and the inclusions of scrapped ideas, you know, just kinda push the idea.
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That illustration was awesome, it would be so ****ed up and weird, creepy, to see that Breen.
Would surely remind us that we are messing with some real enemy.
 
I'm hoping for a few more enemies, considering the hint of a completely different environment. I remember The Ancient Guardian in Ep. Two kinda pissed me off because it was just a glowing Guard; it was a bit cheap and artificial. Especially after seeing the design for the Antlion King and hoping for it in those caverns. Bugs the hell out of me. Haha, bugs. Get it?

I'd love to see the Kingpin, Mr. Friendly, the Gonarch -- hell, the lot of those cut enemies from RTB realized in HL3, since I doubt we'll get them in the third Episode. Liked the desired behavoral qualities in some of the cuts. Mr. Friendly would sort of give off a homophobic vibe since it would raise-up and try and rape the hell out of you with it's phallus swinging all over the place. The Fast Walkers would in turn form a kind of dog/man relationship since you kept providing it with meat; it would bark to warn you of danger and the such. The initial impression I got was that they wanted a lot of them, but couldn't incorporate for whatever reason. Kingpin just sounded and looked creepy as ****, not to mention the fact you probably had to kill them with the crowbar 'cause of it's psionic properties. The Hydra...

Oh well, I'm sure they'll make it into HL3 since most of these sounded like tech limitations. Lot of great concepts there.


Wow, what sparked that tangent?
 
You think reusing the guard as the guardian sucked yet you want to bring back the gonarch?
 
I think his problem was with the guardian being billed as something of a new enemy when it wasn't. Any way, Gonarch rawked. I would have loved to have seen an HL2 version as was planned.

I would generally prefer more reappearances from HL1 aside from just effin' headcrabs. Tentacles for one.
 
Yeah, it was like: "Freeman must use care, but must not hurt Ancient One who guards glowing maggot." Kind of instigating a game of cat and mouse with this big, well, bigger ugly bug or something, and I was all like: "Awesome!" And then I see this generic glowing Guard that poisons you when you get hit, being billed as this Guardian. The Cat/mouse game was still played, but I'm used to running a bit from Guards by now so it wasn't much of anything special.

I wasn't really disappointed since it may just be what the female Guards look like, or may just be another "rank" or something. I just hated the lead-on to something else, and so wanted to fight that King. Another time, I guess.
 
Trevelyan said:
Hello Absinthe! are you referring to any particular source material outside of the games themselves? For example an interview/statement with a member of Valve's staff? I'd be v interested:E.

The in-game hints that I'm aware of seem rather opaque and if you had to push me I doubt he will return in any guise. One cannot speculate too vehemently regarding whether a return of Breen or not would be bad storytelling in my opinion. I think the people at Valve will score up another...score! in Ep3, if Breen returns somehow or not!

Either way, "I don't miss Dr. Breen, but I do miss his show!"
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Every email I've read sent to Valve regarding fans wanting to see more of Breen was answered in a "no comment" type reply. There are videos of interviews with Valve staff where interviewers ask if Breen would be returning and they actually don't even give a response but instead change the subject. One in particular that comes to mind is an episode of Attack of the Show, where Doug Lombardi and another Valve member were invited as Episode One was still being developed. When the question was posed by the G4 guys they looked at each other for a few seconds before saying something completely unrelated.
 
I just hope that they give his story some closure, confirm whether he's dead or alive(most likely dead). He was one of the best characters in HL2, and it would be undeserving if his story thread was left hanging forever.
 
The advisor who sucked his brains out on the end of ep2, could of been breen :O!
 
I got the immpresion that they were good friends in BMRF, and Breen was still trying to keep that in HL2. Just look at the way he begged Eli to join him. I honestly doubt he could kill a good friend, even if that friend hates him.
 
I believe he was going to send Eli through a portal, which would, you know, kill him.
 
The way Breen simply discarded the option of convincing Eli to join him as soon as Freeman showed up, and was about to send him somewhere rather fatal, makes me think that he wasn't very fond of him. Especially when he brushed off Mossman's pleas to keep him alive.
 
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breen appears in episode 2 when the gman is speaking, at the part where he is seen in the BMRF anomalous materials lobby when he says "naysayers" Breen appears on screen
 
AciD said:
Again:I hope HE IS DEAD!
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you ungratefull.......
he saved our lives, without him the combine would have crushed us, killed us all, and take the resources, but breen negotiated with them, and convinced them humans and earth still have their use,
 
Probydoby said:
you ungratefull.......
he saved our lives, without him the combine would have crushed us, killed us all, and take the resources, but breen negotiated with them, and convinced them humans and earth still have their use,
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Yeah , now instead of being crushed in one go we get to be slaughtered one by one.
 
No Breen, no Resistance, no humanity. In that order.
 
Although Breen essentially saved humanity - or at least postponed its destruction - the fact that he is so content with what happened to his species is what puts him beyond redemption.

Which is just as well, 'cause he's dead.
 
Yes, blame Adelaide. 'Cause everything's been going wrong since Adelaide came along.

(It's not even a real city anyway)
 
After seeing the Half Life 2 Ending a few times recently I am starting to feel like he actually got teleported, just as the portal was closing, because his voice goes weird and you dont actually see him inside the ball as it falls back down.

And, if you play HL2 with surround sound when says 'You need me...' his voice is slightly muffled which is followed by a quick shunting noise before the ball falls back down.
 
Hmm, that's a possibility. He could have been teleported away just in time, to some distant world. We likely won't see him again unless/until we take the fight back to the Combine on their home world. Even then, he's unlikely to be a major figure by that point - what use is Breen to the Combine without Earth?


On the subject of replaying Breen's conversation just before the Advisor appears in Episode 1, I think that was more to show that the Advisors are what Breen was taking orders from.
 
Breen is this typical dr. evil character who appears to be death, but then comes back in the end like: muwahhaah, you thought u killed me, but instead, iam alive!!! and i could plan in secret in my super secret underground lair,
 
but- if breen actually teleported wouldnt that kill you as he states "you really shoulnt be up here, at the moment of synapse i teleport this chambre will be bathed in deadly particles which have yet to be named by human science" doesnt that mean if breen teleports you as freeman would die?
 
yes it does
but Gman saves Gordon from the death
And Vorts save Alyx and Grodon from the death and Gman who was trying to save Gordon from the death...*sigh*...so Freeman would die but there are so many persons who wouldn't let him to.
 
Well Breen attempted to mock you and claim that you would die in ways that were physically impossible. Instead you blew him the hell up, and i really prefer the explosion over whatever impossible way he had in mind.
 
he was stuck inside a bubble next to an exploding dark fusion reactor....which then went into meltdown and wiped out an entire CITY.....

i think he's pretty much toast..
 
Gregoric said:
he was stuck inside a bubble next to an exploding dark fusion reactor....which then went into meltdown and wiped out an entire CITY.....

i think he's pretty much toast..
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Then so are Gordon and Alyx.

They just don't realize it yet.
 
alyxvance said:
i take it then you havent played episode two?
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They haven't realized it yet.

I'm just pointing out that both of them were right next to big, assumedly fatal explosions, but nonetheless survived.
 
Absinthe said:
They haven't realized it yet.

I'm just pointing out that both of them were right next to big, assumedly fatal explosions, but nonetheless survived.
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yes, because they were saved....but i doubt breene would've been.
 
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