Combine? who/what are they?

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screechrocket

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ok so i know the combine came from a different world and all. but i had a few thoughts while playing the game.


The first thing i noticed was that the combine look like humans, bipedal, stand upright, same bodily feature ratios etc. they look like humans in a suit, i mean barny fits into a combine suit so humans can thats a fact. But they have masks on which look like a gas mask, since they have the little canister things hanging off, wheater this is because they cant breath our air or incase of biological attack or something i dont know. still nothing tells me either way alien or human.

next thing, in the train station, on of the people waiting in line for food says "I'm thinking about joining civil protection just to get a decent meal" so that means that humans are infact able to join the CP and that behind the masks atleast some are humans.


now also i noticed, mainlly on sand traps in the bunkers but also throughout the game, that the combines radios and the lady that announces stuff is in english/human. While in the bunker i heard a combine on the radio say "lets see if we can get them back online" i assume they meant the thumpers for the ant lions, plus they said some other stuff i cant remember. now this could also be because some of the combine may be human. still doesn't prove that they aren't aliens, or atleast some of them.

In the prison, DR. Breen refers to the combine soilders and/or the CP as "trans-human forces". Also you see an alien looking thing, that you later see in the citadel, on a monitor and on the next screen you see a human male on a table. In the citadel you see these weird looking people again, only the are being moved around in the movers and the ones that are walking around look like they are being guarded by soliders. and while chasing breen to the reactor you see him talking to the alien thing, looks like a giant larva to me, and he mentions getting a "host" body.



now make take on this is, i know the combine are trying to "evolve" us. I think that after the 7 hour war, which i assume is right after black mesa during the portal storm, earth was taken over and humans were "mind controled" or altered some how to serve the combine and garrison earth. I also thing that these slave looking things in the citadel are infact humans that have been changed and that the combine soliders or atleast the CP are humans in control/support of the combine. I believe that infact every combine you fight in the game is really a human. and the only aliens are the head crabs and ant lions.


any thoughts? this is just my take and i could be way off, and i might have missed something, i hear there is a secret vort cave near black mesa east, so i dont know if answers lie there at all.
 
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Nobody respond to his questions please!

Ok screech use the search button or just look at 2 out of 3 threads in this place and you will find your answer.
 
First things first: There is not a SINGLE actual combine alien on earth. The combine soldiers are humans upgraded with combine technology, little more. The striders and gunships are synths - self replicating machines.

The only combine you see in the game, is the combien advisor - whom Breen is talking to. The Combien are mixture of thousands of races, because they were all enslaved, and were next.
 
Samon said:
First things first: There is not a SINGLE actual combine alien on earth. The combine soldiers are humans upgraded with combine technology, little more. The striders and gunships are synths - self replicating machines.

The only combine you see in the game, is the combien advisor - whom Breen is talking to. The Combien are mixture of thousands of races, because they were all enslaved, and were next.
Yup. Case closed, that's all that needs to be said, now quickly lock the thread before Angry Lawyer gets here and poisons yet another innocent mind with his twisted evil lies. :p
 
Striders, Gunships and Dropships are also creatures implanted by combine technology. And the Combine Helicopter is a mix of the MI-24 Hind and the Apache. That's clear
 
oh and btw, marcopollo, if he wants the answer in this way, then he is allowed to, that's none of your damn business.
 
He asks people who want to tell him, and clearly thats not you, so if you don't want to answer his questions, fine, but don't tell others not to do so. He has the full right to know it, and there is nothing that you can do about it!
And what about searing words? Are you angry with me because I said "damn"?
I suggest you translate my signature, that's what I call searing words!
 
It's called sarcasm...Anyways I DID answer his questions well...indirectly. Oh I just looked at your join date, that explains why you think I was being an ass...well I was a bit but the fact still remains that there are hundreds of threads with very good explanations.
 
But there are also millions of people as clumsy as me, who could easy overlook that fact :p
But he is right in a way, it is clear what the combine are now. But still it are mere speculations, untill Marc Laidlaw stops PR-ing and starts telling. We'll have to be patient... :rolleyes:
 
Yep, just like me. How did you find out by the way?
It's propaganda, we want German land, without germans! :D
 
I speak some german and I recognize a couple of words that Dutch and German have in common
 
Where are you from then? I can speak German fluently, but it haven't learned it voluntarily :p
 
America but I took german for a year and have been teaching myself for a while.
 
The combine are the masters of the universe and they took over Xen now earth,\m\ what else needs to be said?
 
humans took over xen for a bit tho right? cuz g-man said, something like "xen, the boarder world, is in our control..... for the time being."


And i assume the Xen forces and Race-X are part of the combine, universal union, then right? i mean whats the connection between the combine and Xen, or do we really not know?
 
look up the storyline to HL. It's on the internet somewhere.
 
am i wrong? or are you just not sure, been a while since i've played and beaten HL. i'll see if i can find HL's story somewhere.
 
Some dude wrote the complete in depth guide to everything that we didn't even know happen.
 
screechrocket said:
humans took over xen for a bit tho right? cuz g-man said, something like "xen, the boarder world, is in our control..... for the time being."


And i assume the Xen forces and Race-X are part of the combine, universal union, then right? i mean whats the connection between the combine and Xen, or do we really not know?

We dont know. Theres no definate conclusion on the combine controlling xen. And Race X DONT fit into the storyline at all.
 
They used to control Xen and they employed that last boss Niliath (the equivilant of Breen) to contol the planet except Gordon came and killed Niliath,.
 
i'm with eatbugs

btw those scrawny looking aliens we see in the citadel are... i dont know what they are actually. but they look like mini nihilanths.
 
eatbugs said:
They used to control Xen and they employed that last boss Niliath (the equivilant of Breen) to contol the planet except Gordon came and killed Niliath,.

Maybe. But there is NO proof to say it did.
 
there is. marc laidlaw endorsed this on the hl saga story website as being 'correct for the most part'
 
The whole damn explanation.

In response to first post: The clue to the Combine is in the name. They are not a single race any more, but an augmented Combination of hundreds of races, which have been enslaved from planets throughout the universe (Xen, Earth and others).

This means that when the Combine decide to take over a planet, they will already possess some creatures or some technology ideal for negotiating that planet's environment. And when the planet falls, another species (and their technology) goes into the Combine inventory. :sniper:
 
The whole damn explanation.

No, no, NO!! This site belongs to some guy...just some guy who played HL2 like you and I - his opinion is no better than anyone else who played the game and just comes to their own conclusions. On top of that some of that guy's conclusions are very suspect and unsupported.

The idea that Marc Laidlaw has somehow given his seal of approval to the story as represented on that site is also wrong. Laidlaw has stated in an email that he is effectively not allowed to declare "right" or "wrong" to any points of the story which are open to debate, and might be expanded upon in future. Search some threads on this board if you want better explanations than that of the fragfiles guy.

Maybe the huge thread about Combine, Xen, etc etc in Rumours and Spec. should be stickied?

They are not a single race any more, but an augmented Combination of hundreds of races, which have been enslaved from planets throughout the universe (Xen, Earth and others).

Largely correct except there are no Xen races in the Combine from what we've seen. Combine's manipulation of Xen life is limited to sticking headcrabs in artillery shells, and getting the odd stray vortigaunt to sweep up. Also, the Combine seem to splice organic life with machinery and weaponry, rather than splicing 2 races with eachother. This is still open to interpretation however, since some synths contain quite disparate elements on their body (eg. dropship: insectile wings on what looks like it might be a sea-dwelling creature).

This means that when the Combine decide to take over a planet, they will already possess some creatures or some technology ideal for negotiating that planet's environment.

Agreed, except that they didn't have any humanoid troops for the takeover of earth. So sometimes their interest in a race might mean that that race would fill a gap in the overall military capability of the Combine. So after Earth, the Combine would be a stronger force, having come into possession of a humanoid shock troop which they can use on other worlds. If Freeman hadn't shat on the whole thing and made the transhuman Overwatch look like clowns.

Out of a City's worth of characters - Valve choose the one man who's unavailable...

Nice sig :smoking:
 
Cons Himself said:
there is. marc laidlaw endorsed this on the hl saga story website as being 'correct for the most part'

Incorrect. It was not Marc Laidlaw with the quote - it was someone else quoting, or maybe paraphrasing, or maybe even misquoting Laidlaw. That's also a misquote - what was said was "pretty accurate for the most part". So "pretty" and "most", and an indirect quote. Added to the fact that it was probably from a complimentary email meant to congratulate the author on an overall nice site. Far from conclusive.
 
Oh, and Laidlaw confirmed that Race X were just creatures passing through Xen to pop at us :p

And that Laidlaw quote is a corruption of what he said. When probed for things on the Combine-Xen connection, Laidlaw states that he's not allowed to confirm or deny it. Why would he go and tell some random guy with a pretty website that all his theories are correct?

And damn, that guide states that the Combine are actually called the Synth! That's proof enough that it's not reliable evidence!


-Angry Lawyer
 
Going back to the original question, I cannot answer for sure just like everyone else, however, I notied an interesting poster on one of the levels. I dont remeber which exactly, but it's the one where you have to go through the small hole and through the toxic ooze to open the door for your allies (You also get attacked by lots of zombies). Anyway, on the wall to the far side there is a poster depicting 3 heads, one ape, one human, one combine, almost like Darwin's charts. it's like a medical diagram showing internal workings of each. I dont know if they are suggesting they have accelerated human evolution to turn us all into combine, but its interesting none the less.
 
That link is false! Its just some guys idea of how the story goes, it doesn't make it correct - in fact it could be mostly for all we know.
 
Samon said:
That link is false! Its just some guys idea of how the story goes, it doesn't make it correct - in fact it could be mostly for all we know.

Marc Laidlaw, the Writer/Game Designer of Valve's games, said that most of the page wasn't far from the truth at all.
 
CrazyHarij said:
Marc Laidlaw, the Writer/Game Designer of Valve's games, said that most of the page wasn't far from the truth at all.

Yeah i know who Marc Laidlaw is :p

But thats what someone said, Marc said. It could have been misinterpreted. Its just people refer to it as a bible when, its not exactly true. And Laidlaw often refuses to comment on the story anyway.
 
leonumber2 said:
Going back to the original question, I cannot answer for sure just like everyone else, however, I notied an interesting poster on one of the levels. I dont remeber which exactly, but it's the one where you have to go through the small hole and through the toxic ooze to open the door for your allies (You also get attacked by lots of zombies). Anyway, on the wall to the far side there is a poster depicting 3 heads, one ape, one human, one combine, almost like Darwin's charts. it's like a medical diagram showing internal workings of each. I dont know if they are suggesting they have accelerated human evolution to turn us all into combine, but its interesting none the less.
I always thought that was a spray design done by the resistance, but I agree with your idea of forced evolution. 'Raising the Bar' gives more detail behind the concepts of the combine critters
 
Samon said:
Yeah i know who Marc Laidlaw is :p

But thats what someone said, Marc said. It could have been misinterpreted. Its just people refer to it as a bible when, its not exactly true. And Laidlaw often refuses to comment on the story anyway.
You dare to doubt the words of Marc? He who is all knowing, He who hath all the answers, He who know the truth of G-man!
 
Marc refuses to comment on the storyline, except for this one time, when he gives his seal of approval to one man.

I don't think so.
I'd accuse the guy of blatantly lying about that quote, except for the fact its not a quote from Marc ;) .
 
Jandor said:
Marc refuses to comment on the storyline, except for this one time, when he gives his seal of approval to one man.

I don't think so.
I'd accuse the guy of blatantly lying about that quote, except for the fact its not a quote from Marc ;) .

.Word.
 
"Originally Posted by leonumber2
Going back to the original question, I cannot answer for sure just like everyone else, however, I notied an interesting poster on one of the levels. I dont remeber which exactly, but it's the one where you have to go through the small hole and through the toxic ooze to open the door for your allies (You also get attacked by lots of zombies). Anyway, on the wall to the far side there is a poster depicting 3 heads, one ape, one human, one combine, almost like Darwin's charts. it's like a medical diagram showing internal workings of each. I dont know if they are suggesting they have accelerated human evolution to turn us all into combine, but its interesting none the less."


Thats mite be true, but the auxiliary forces of the Combines are left alone, they are not change in any way….because they join in their own will….

If you’re wondering and read this in some sites….
 
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