Condition Zero: Counter Strike 2

[wendle]

Heres a theory on the long over due Counter Strike: Condition Zero. Over 2 years after their initial release date, there is no way they're still working on the simple version of CS that they made movies of and gave screenshots of so long ago. They have given no new content and keep pushing the release back close to the same time as Half Life 2. Its obvious reading the forums that no one here will play their game the way it was presented at this point. Its outdated and no good. I believe that they started to created the game and realized it sucked well before their initial game. As we've all said, it doesn't look like that much fun anymore to play CS alone with bots, new maps, and new goals. It just doesn't compare to Half Life 2 or any other game being developed.

I believe they realized this while they had Half Life 2 in relatively early development and after creating much of CZ and putting out movies and screenshots they decided to scrap it and put in the source code and make it up to day. Condition Zero now represents a completely different game that will come out with Half Life 2 and represent the highly speculated form of Counter Strike 2.

How could they possibly be working on a game like CZ while building Half Life 2. They're much smarter than that to believe it would be at all profitable. The next time you see any screenshots or video of CZ it will be a new game entirely and release just after or with Half Life 2. Perhaps we'll even see it at E3 this year, but I'm not hoping too strongly.

 

[Striker]

and where did you get this info from????

 

[ComradeBadger]

It's speculation

Anyway, could well be right

 

[wendle]

well i decided to give Gabe an email just after i made this post. (not expecting any reply) I sent the email just before i went to lunch and got a reply within 25 min. I didn't ask specifically about it being CounterSTrike 2 but heres what i got:



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From: *****************************]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:25 AM
To: Gabe Newell
Subject: Condition Zero


I was just thinking about how long CZ has been postponed and the very long time since any new content has been released. Have you, in the time since the initial release date, scrapped the version of CZ we’ve seen and replaced it with a new version of the game containing Source? I would think this would be the case given the amount of time it has been and the fact that source and Half Life 2 represent games much more advanced than the initial showings of CZ.



Thanks for your answers!

Wendle


CZ was finished in November of last year.

We're actually finishing up a significant update to the product in the next week. It does seem odd that we can finish an upgrade to the product faster than Sierra can get the product on store shelves. The day it shows up at retail we will also have it available on Steam.



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He says a significant update. This doesn't at all mean source, but it sounds like it has had a few changes made. And more importantly, it sounds like they are getting it out on shelves real soon (as soon as Sierra can). And the game is done.

 

[mayro]

Actually, if you really want to know... From what i have read and seen....

The original counter-strike zero was a single player go through the boreing missions and play the game in a similar fashion to halflife.... that was the old version....

Now valve is includeing that as a bonus "since it didnt get finished" and have added what actually could be fun is the bots with mission goals like blow 4 terrorists heads off on siege in 5 minutes.

 

[Maxi]

Hmm it was a good theory though.

 

[Jmechy]

yeah, but, CS:CZ has already been shipped to a few places for review as well. Unless they had one hell of an NDA, and are really all screwing with us, it couldn't be CS2

 

[Navy Man]

well if it was finished last november aint we to suppect that it is already running on source? , or would that be a stupid thing to do releasing that before hl2?

will be interesting to see

btw wouldn't a ww2 single player be quite the fun game by valve?

 

[Sulkdodds]

God, I hope he's right about CZ. Cos as it is, it really is rubbish.

 

[JohnnyBeverage]

As far as a WW2 single player game, i hope DOD2 has a single player side with it.

 

[Bleeder]

Here's a theory......i don't want to hear your half-baked theory.
and BTW....."up to day" <----WTF!

 

[G-Dub]

Counter-Strike 2 on source will be truely brilliant, and will have an even larger audience than the original does! (which is incredible in size)

 

[Sulkdodds]

Yeah right. I reckon it'll be rubbish. Not to be overly cynical or anything.

 

[chu]

Even if it is CS2, I don't really care. I am really only looking forward to HL2, the game itself. I don't really care about any mods or anything, havn't really seen anything that appealed to me. The majority seem to be on the same track and it get's boring.

 

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

anyone else getting tired of the somewhat vague answers Valve is giving at times?(actually game developers in general, they almost liek friggin politicians!)

note how topic poster Asked if it would feature Source...then note how that wasn't answered. something like that SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE CLEAR that it wasn't going to use Source(if that is true, which I very much believe it is) granted that Valve probably gets lots of mails etc. and there might be some quick reads and answers in them....but still.

 

[DEATH eVADER]

It was very strange considering that it was reviewed but never came out (Believe me, I saw the screenshots, and everything stunk, except for the models, which looked impressive)

 

[Stormy]

im not intrested in CZ at all, been playing cs for ages. i dont see how playing cs with bots on a cople new maps will excite me at all. bots do the same thing everytime and you can figger out ways to kill them every time.

if they have put source init ill probly download it and play around with the physics

 

[<RJMC>]

one aclaration

but I hope this will not be a spoiler

here in my cuontry the piratery dominate the video-games sales
by the way
in Russia we know are a copy of the beta of HL2
but
here one friend has bought a...................................

COUNTER-STRIKE:CONDITION ZERO BETA,and is in Russian(but it has a traducction)

and he lend me the game

and I played it(but maybe all you will played too)

and something that I can say about it is

the missions are not so bad
the engine is like a modification of the HL1 engine or CS engine(but is very similiar,but hav betters things,for example best models,best animations,and the physics is litle diferent,and grafical is litle best)but is like the HL1 engine(or CS)
I dont know about the multiplayer cuz dont hav it
and other thing is it has the steam included
and hav HL1 how a mod(I dont know why)
and op4 and other that I cant play but its name is strange(I dont remenber)
but the missions are just 10(in the beta I hope)but are not bad,are better that I hav think before,are not missions shorts,easy and lazy development how I was thinking

I can post some screemshots if that is allowed

 

[ComradeBadger]

Screenshots are not allowed.