Conservative Shell Game - Swept Away

[Sulkdodds]

We heard him the first time.

 

[Tr0n]

Yeah. Tron is redneck. Thats its own party. What is the Mascot you ask? A turkey!


I wouldn't know much else, though, not being a redneck.



Anyways. I could agree that both parties rather suck.

Well, I believe the mascot would be a deer...or something stereotypical.

 

[No Limit]

Actually, the feds were not allowed into LA, because of the fact that the LA gov. was refusing to hand disaster management authority over to the Feds. You see in America, we separate powers, so the feds aren't uberpowerful and such. Anyways, she delayed the entry of troops. After being allowed in, FEMA had full resources and abilities on hand in 24 hours. Faster than any other hurricane to date.
The failure was at local levels. Nagin refused to use all the buses in his cities (thers pictures of hundreds of flooded buses) to evacuate those citizens that couldn't leave. Then, the corrupt NO police force did nothing to stop the situation from deteriorating.

You are still living on the old freeper talking points which have long been refuted. Blanco moved over all authority to the federal government on August 27th. The buses were not used because there were no drivers and FEMA actually told them not to use those buses. Get your talking points updated, they won't work with me.

 

[No Limit]

No Limit get your history straight. Our government switches back and forth from conservative to liberal since the nation was first founded. This just happens to be when the conservatives have the majority of support. In twenty years it could be the exact opposite and then us conservatives will bitch and moan about you liberals.You're just an idiot and you speak straight out of your ass; you don't know anything.

Keep posting, your idiotic ranting without any back up is really making liberals here look good lately :thumbs:.

As I posted above you might want to address this. What has happened in the last 5 years that the conservatives have had FULL control of the government (they also had most control 4 years prior to that)? Let me help you out, we have started 2 wars, both being complete failures (1 a lot worse than the other), we are running a 7+ trillion deficit something our children will be paying dearly for, China control mosts of our economy because of bonds, poverty rate is increasing, universal healthcare is non-existant, our government can not handle national disasters, we are less and less safer each and every day as we was with Katrina and the rise of islamic fundamentalism. Now look at what happened while Democrats had most control of goverment for just 4 short years:

And what happened then? Our economy was at its peak, we had a huge surplus, no major unnecessary wars, decline in abortions (granted this decline continued with Bush Jr), lowest crime rate in a generation after the prior 2 republican administrations caused the highest crime rate ever, lowest poverty rate in 20 years, lowest proverty rate for blacks ever, lowest poverty rate for hispanics since 1979, lowest unemployment for blacks ever, highest home ownership ever, lowest women unemployment rate, etc... I could go on for pages but I'll leave that here.

 

[southernman17]

Yes so then the public votes for democratic canidates. This is called a period of reform. Then after a while the democrats become to powerful and the country takes another swing back to the right. Its consant. Haven't you ever taken an American history course, they should of thaught it to you? I'm serious, I thought everyone in America knew its swings back and forth based on public perception of how the incumbant party is performing.

 

[No Limit]

Yes so then the public votes for democratic canidates. This is called a period of reform. Then after a while the democrats become to powerful and the country takes another swing back to the right. Its consant. Haven't you ever taken an American history course, they should of thaught it to you? I'm serious, I thought everyone in America knew its swings back and forth based on public perception of how the incumbant party is performing.

It's a little more complicated than what you have been taught in American history.

Yes, things swing back and forth, but it doesn't mean that swing is always right. Certain parties (I won't name anything) constantly lie, cheat, and will do anything to get back in power so things swing back their way for a few years. I asked you a simple question which is directly related to the original post. Being the conservative that you claim to be do you not agree that things have been a lot better under Democratic leadership?

 

[southernman17]

I know the swing isn't always right but the power constantly shifts from (loosely defined) conservative and liberal ideologies. I don't agree with the economic policy of the current administration and I believe our foreign policies have made America more insecure. Therefore, I wil vote for the person I believe will get America back on track as being the best most powerful nation in the world both in terms of security and economically. For me, the jury is still out on Clinton until I see the lasting long term effects on his policy but I tell you this Bush is not good at all (I secretly hoped that Kerry would've won watching the election returns on TV).

 

[No Limit]

I know the swing isn't always right but the power constantly shifts from (loosely defined) conservative and liberal ideologies. I don't agree with the economic policy of the current administration and I believe our foreign policies have made America more insecure. Therefore, I wil vote for the person I believe will get America back on track as being the best most powerful nation in the world both in terms of security and economically. For me, the jury is still out on Clinton until I see the lasting long term effects on his policy but I tell you this Bush is not good at all (I secretly hoped that Kerry would've won watching the election returns on TV).

You know, I considered you a dick when you first posted but I know at least you are using your head. I honestly don't understand how other conservatives can support Bush, there is nothing conservative about him.

 

[southernman17]

AGREED FULLY. Bush is anything but conservative, he's out for himself it would seem, not the betterment for the American people or generally working for us. It seems like he is catering only to the elite crowd. I don't think we should impeach him, but believe me I'm counting down the days until we can throw his ass out of office.

(I still don't like your conservative bashing but at least we can see eye to eye that Bush isn't a good president and weakens this country).

 

[No Limit]

AGREED FULLY. Bush is anything but conservative, he's out for himself it would seem, not the betterment for the American people or generally working for us. It seems like he is catering only to the elite crowd. I don't think we should impeach him, but believe me I'm counting down the days until we can throw his ass out of office.

(I still don't like your conservative bashing but at least we can see eye to eye that Bush isn't a good president and weakens this country).

I bash the extreme right conservatives, the ones that currently control the republican party and give all of you a bad name. And no matter how much heat I get on this board I will continue to bash them. That is not to say I think liberals should have total control over government and I don't think the original poster meant to potray it that way; it was more meant to say that right wing extremists such as this adminstration shouldn't have any control ever.