Creationism and Evolution
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Fanatical creationists have been using the same tatics for many years. They ignore the great body of evidence for evolution, do a thorough job of misunderstanding the basic concepts, and then have the audacity to call it all a big conspiracy to trick us into not believing in God.
I was raised by christians to believe in creationism, and as we were a book family my mother gave me a great deal of material to read. At some point later in life I realized that none of the authors were credible scientists and everything they were arguing had been figured out a long time ago, and became disillusioned.
I was raised by christians to believe in creationism, and as we were a book family my mother gave me a great deal of material to read. At some point later in life I realized that none of the authors were credible scientists and everything they were arguing had been figured out a long time ago, and became disillusioned.
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The way i see it, is looking at the balance of evidence.
How strong is the evidence for an existing God?
Here are some arguements against the existence of God:
1. Theists propose God is omnipotent, God is wholly good, and evil exists; yet this is logically inconsistent and does not make sense, because how can theses 3 proposals be true at the same time? (how can evil exist whilst God is present everywhere).
2.Theories of big bang and evolution seem to contradict religious doctrine, and are backed by science and evidence;which texts such as the Bible and Quran dont hold.
3. The human mind likely cannot exist without the brain; which cannot function outside a living body, this suggests that the idea of an afterlife is not feasable.
4. Basic things; for instance religions all tend to date back to a time when humans had little understanding of the world and phenonmena, so spectacles such as the Sun and Fire would seem miraculous and promote an idea of God.
Also humans all generally fear death, so the idea of having an afterlife is comforting, and life would seem meaningless and insignificant in a world without God.
Essentially in the abscense of satisfactory arguements for God, then atheism should be accepted, even without positive arguments in its favour.
How strong is the evidence for an existing God?
Here are some arguements against the existence of God:
1. Theists propose God is omnipotent, God is wholly good, and evil exists; yet this is logically inconsistent and does not make sense, because how can theses 3 proposals be true at the same time? (how can evil exist whilst God is present everywhere).
2.Theories of big bang and evolution seem to contradict religious doctrine, and are backed by science and evidence;which texts such as the Bible and Quran dont hold.
3. The human mind likely cannot exist without the brain; which cannot function outside a living body, this suggests that the idea of an afterlife is not feasable.
4. Basic things; for instance religions all tend to date back to a time when humans had little understanding of the world and phenonmena, so spectacles such as the Sun and Fire would seem miraculous and promote an idea of God.
Also humans all generally fear death, so the idea of having an afterlife is comforting, and life would seem meaningless and insignificant in a world without God.
Essentially in the abscense of satisfactory arguements for God, then atheism should be accepted, even without positive arguments in its favour.
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The human body can get pretty good, the trouble is most humans are pathetically unhealthy and weak these days.trizzm said:
Also humans have lost all survival instincts (well most of them anyway)
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yawn no one except for me and Apos 'gets it'.
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That's only due to our superior intellect. If we had lost the ability as a species to plan for the future, or devise tools and weapons, we would have died out hundreds of thousands of years ago.iyfyoufhl said:
If you were to go head-to-head with a bear (with the intention of killing it for food), using only your body, you'd have a slim-to-nil chance of even surviving. That's what it would have been like without higher thought and whatnot.
I agree we're unhealthy to a terrifying degree, but I disagree that we, as a species, ahve lost most of our survival instincts. Our survival instincts are still "there" when we're born. A baby will "grab" when it detects soft stimuli on its palm; most, if not all humans will recoil from intense stimuli such as heat, pressure, sound, or light. There are many other examples of survival instinct, as well.short recoil said:
But don't confuse instinct with intellect. Monkeys and humans probably have extremely similar survival instincts, however we have a far greater capacity for higher thought, planning, social interaction, and so on.
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Calling a the bible 'BS', while crudely said, is just him saying he doesn't believe any of what is in the Bible as being true, at least with respect to creationism. I totally agree. And just because hundreds of millions of people accept what is written in the book, doesn't make it any closer to a statement of truth. But then that could be said for anything.
But observation adds a whole extra element of credibility that religion frankly does not have, at least in my opinion.
In the end i say, let science run its course, who knows what it will discover, the bible cant even encompass a fraction of what we now know about the universe around us, it just outlines a singular view of someones concept of virtue. I just hope less and less people try to explain the complexities and subtleties of life away with many thousand year old musing.
But observation adds a whole extra element of credibility that religion frankly does not have, at least in my opinion.
In the end i say, let science run its course, who knows what it will discover, the bible cant even encompass a fraction of what we now know about the universe around us, it just outlines a singular view of someones concept of virtue. I just hope less and less people try to explain the complexities and subtleties of life away with many thousand year old musing.
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The human body is superior to any other animal on this planet. Not because of its strength but because of its hands and its brain.
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Reality is in the human mind? You come out with esoteric statements, would you care to elaborate on what you actually mean? Or at least what Orwell meant.
Otherwise that was kinda pointless, don't you think? :|
The human being is superior because of its genetic coding. Or something ^^.
Suffice to say, i just think creationism is a dead end, because its a leap of faith, there's none of the baby steps that science has gone through to come to a theory that there was a big bang or evolution occurred.
Scientist's say Evolution is fact, so i believe them. Why am i willing to believe what scientists say and not that of religious groups? Its not faith. Its track record. Pure and simple. More often than not scientists know when they are on the wrong track. Equally, observations indicate when they are on the right track.
Even if the big bang or evolution is proved wrong, science will figure out that it is wrong, it wont be because the creationists were right.
Creationism is a predetermined end based on what was written in scripture, thousands of years ago. While conceivably true for the mere fact that we can conceive such a phenomena, i just think in this day in age its a little too much of a leap of faith.
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