cut lossless clips from DVD

[VirusType2]

I want to be able to specify a start time and an end time and cut that part out of a DVD movie.

I want it to be a lossless clip, that is - to remain in DVD .vob format


I tried Amersoft ripper. It has lossless conversions but it's being a total pain in the ass for clips.

I tried VLC and it works, although a bit of a pain and unfortunately it's not lossless


Anyone know of a program that is designed for this?

 

[Asus]

There are probably 2 options. I have not done the first but I have done the 2nd many times and could answer questions there.

A)
When creating the new DVD tell it create a new chapter after the section you want not to play. And tell it to stop the previous chapter short (time editing). You probably will have to rip the DVD to your hard drive first. Although if you are able to do this with an all-in-one program like DVD shrink or DVD Fab it probably will just do it for you.

B)
1.Rip the DVD to your hard drive, 2. edit the video w/timeline editor and 3.burn a new DVD w/custom or no menu.

You would use something like DVD Decrypter to rip the DVD to your hard drive (use IFO under MODE). You probably don't want to strip the subs/audio from the VOB so just leave them be (you can remove them with DVD Decrypter if you uncheck them).
DVD video (Mpeg 1/2) is actually a stream format. The frames depend on previous frames to make up a picture (I, P, B) so they can't be edited/cut the same way without missing info at the beginning of the clip to make up the first few frames. While a AVI/WMV frames are independent of each other. The only MPEG editor I know of that will not re-encode the clip is Womble Mpeg Video Wizard (timeline editor). Use the Womble editor to edit the VOB file. VOB is just a container (like ZIP/RAR without the compression) that holds Mpeg2 Video, Audio and subtitles on the DVD. So you can open the VOB just like you would a MPEG file to edit.
Then burn the DVD again with the edited video file. Use Nero or TMPGEnc DVD Author to burn w/menus. Probably need to create a simple custom menu. Might be too complicated to bring back the menu that was on the original.

 

[VirusType2]

thats a lot of help, I'm not sure which one to try. lol. thanks for the help.


I've got DVD fab, I don't think I've ever used it to cut sections. I'll have to check it out.

By the way, the DVD is already on my drive in standard DVD .vob and .ifo format BTW.




Actually, to be more clear, I wanted to have something similar to a lossless animated .gif file that you often see on the internet. a loop. Sometimes with audio and sometimes without.

It would be sweet if I could specify the exact starting and ending frames, but I may have to settle for times. and with fab I may have to settle for avi. that is if I can even make a small clip, not sure if I can make it lossless....


I have no problem playing any video format, so I don't need to transcode it to a different container. A small .vob clip would play fine, and my video player can be set to loop.



Finally, If I can find a humorous section, I'll worry about getting it to GIF to share on the internet, but I'll worry about that later.

 

[VirusType2]

Alright I got Aimersoft to do it. It's extremely easy, I just wasn't doing it right. :3

well that got me perfect lossless clips of, for example, 32.50 to 32.55, giving me a 5 second clip.

Unfortunately, I really wanted to trim it more specifically. Like if I could trim frames off the beginning and the end.

A lot of frames pass in 1 second. roughly 24 I believe. Anyway, If I want to make a smooth loop of something, I can't have a small piece of an alternate scene at the beginning and ends of the clip.

have to figure out how to trim it more exactly. Asus, I can't tell for sure if you are saying trimming off frames is impossible in .vob format, please clarify.

 

[Asus]

I use Womble to edit scenes and commercials out of video and it cuts basically right on the line. There isn't a whole second overlap or anything. I believe it cuts on the I frames (independent). The clip might go IPBPBPBI (random example) so it might cut with a .4 second gap over or short. If you are keeping it in VOB format then you could remove the subs/dolby audio/Spanish audio etc to save some space and just leave the stereo. I know with DVD Decryptor you have that option.

If you actually want to convert it into an animated GIF file then you could covert it to an AVI file first using a lossless codec (Huffy or Lagarith). Then you could edit on a frame by frame basis without worry and slow the FPS down. Do some other editing effects maybe with VirtualDub or something. And then export/convert 20-40 AVI frames to an animated GIF. Wouldn't want to keep it in lossless AVI though, HUGE files.

 

[VirusType2]

Thanks again. It sounds like Womble can do frame by frame editing, so that sounds perfect.

I don't plan to add menus, chapters and things, just wanted to make small clips out of it. I have several DVD rippers, so I don't need that.

which one of these products do you think I need?

http://www.womble.com/products/index.html

 

[Asus]

The MPEG-VCR or Mpeg Video Wizard. Same thing but the Wizard is an easier timeline editor IMO.

 

[VirusType2]

Great. Thanks for all the help. : peace :

 

[Sanada]

If you just want to make animated GIFs from videos then why not use VirtualDub? You can select the parts you want frame by frame and then export to an image sequence which can then be imported into PS or any other program capable of creating GIFs.