DC Sniper to be Executed Tonight

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CNN said:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- John Allen Muhammad, the mastermind of the 2002 sniper attacks that terrorized the suburbs of the nation's capital, is scheduled to die by lethal injection Tuesday evening at a state prison near Jarratt, Virginia.
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/10/virginia.sniper.execution/index.html

I randomly thought of this case a few days ago for some reason yet I haven't thought about it in years prior. In any event, so long asshole.
 
Tyguy said:
I randomly thought of this case a few days ago for some reason yet I haven't thought about it in years prior.
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That's some accuracy you've got!

You've hit this one right between the eyes.
 
lol lethal injection ..the least barbaric means of carrying out barbarism. you truely are a nation of contradictions america


you should just drop all pretenses and simply bury them up to their necks and throw stones at them till they're good and dead. all this fancy technology doesnt mask you for what you are so why bother?
 
Can you not enter a thread without starting an off-topic attack on America?

This isn't the politics section, and this thread isn't about lethal injection or the death penalty.

It's about, like every other death-related thread on hl2.net, making puns.
 
Hah, America, president Bush. Hah, America, Cheney. Conservatives, Nation. Stupid, President, Democracy, fat pigs, Bush Administration. Michael Moore Great, hilarious. Conservatives.
 
RIP John Allen Muhammad. You will be remembered.
 
Pro-tip: Other countries still use the death sentence, not just America. Shocking I know, I might need to go have a serious lie down.
 
Pulse said:
Pro-tip: Other countries still use the death sentence, not just America. Shocking I know, I might need to go have a serious lie down.
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ya like Afghanistan, Iran and saudi arabia.
 
I'm going to pop your apricot if you don't start getting back on target with this thread.
 
Tyguy said:
I randomly thought of this case a few days ago for some reason yet I haven't thought about it in years prior. In any event, so long asshole.
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same, i figured they'd killed him already. peace out john.
 
CptStern said:
lol lethal injection ..the least barbaric means of carrying out barbarism. you truely are a nation of contradictions america


you should just drop all pretenses and simply bury them up to their necks and throw stones at them till they're good and dead. all this fancy technology doesnt mask you for what you are so why bother?
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*if death sentence was firing squad or being mauled by a bear*

lol mauled by a bear...so barbaric means for a "developed".you are truely a nation of contradictions america

you should just drop all pretenses and simply burn the world to the ground for not going to church on sundays.all this fancy technology dont work to make a less "barbaric" method?but yeah why bother?

*if death sentece was suddenly outlawed in the usa and this one was canceled*

lol they will let him leave...so calmy means for a "kick ass" nations of contradictions like you america

you should just drop all these pretenses and simply bury them up to their necks and throw stones at them till they're good and dead like in the pasts times.but all this fancy bible following dont hide what you truely are so why bother?
 
In the larger scope of things, it's better to put murderers like this to death, regardless of what vantage point you have on the death penalty.
 
I didn't know it was a tip that led authorities to capturing them, I thought it was based on the bullets they got from that tree. Whoever it was that tipped them off should at least get a handshake.
 
They killed random civilians for what reason exactly? He also shot and killed a federal agent. Does anyone think he could be rehabilitated and released back into society? Obviously not. So Americans should pay 10 or $20,000 a year to feed and shelter him for 40 years or whatever? I don't know. I personally won't dispute this man's death sentence, though I can understand the reasoning some have when it comes to opposing the death penalty. However, there is no shred of doubt that he is the serial killer responsible and he brought this upon himself.

I personally lived in the area terrorized. It could have been me or friends or family.
 
VirusType2 said:
They killed random civilians for what reason exactly? He also shot and killed a federal agent. Does anyone think he could be rehabilitated and released back into society? Obviously not.
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obviously not because he killed 10 people. premeditated murder carries a 25 year sentence; that's 10 25 year sentences and a federal agent would mean no chance of parole after serving 250 years. why would you even think they'd release someone's who eliigible for the death penalty?


VirusType2 said:
So Americans should pay 10 or $20,000 a year to feed and shelter him for 40 years or whatever? I don't know. I personally won't dispute this man's death sentence, though I can understand the reasoning some have when it comes to opposing the death penalty. However, there is no shred of doubt that he is the serial killer responsible and he brought this upon himself.

I personally lived in the area terrorized. It could have been me or friends or family.
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whether he did what he or not is not the point. a lethal injection is an easy way out. he should be left to rot in his cell till he gives out his last breath. there is no justice in a mericful end to the suffering you're caused.

also death row is much more expensive than simply putting him in general pop. also the high profile of this case pretty much increases the cost exponentially
 
VirusType2 said:
They killed random civilians for what reason exactly? He also shot and killed a federal agent. Does anyone think he could be rehabilitated and released back into society? Obviously not. So Americans should pay 10 or $20,000 a year to feed and shelter him for 40 years or whatever? I don't know. I personally won't dispute this man's death sentence, though I can understand the reasoning some have when it comes to opposing the death penalty. However, there is no shred of doubt that he is the serial killer responsible and he brought this upon himself.

I personally lived in the area terrorized. It could have been me or friends or family.
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ultimately he wanted to kill his wife and take custody of his kids, but just killing his wife would make him the prime suspect. So he arranged a killing wave across the nation that his wife would just happen to be a victim of, and he would either get his kids or the money he demanded from police officers and really you have to be a psychopath for it to make sense.
 
VirusType2 said:
They killed random civilians for what reason exactly? He also shot and killed a federal agent. Does anyone think he could be rehabilitated and released back into society? Obviously not. So Americans should pay 10 or $20,000 a year to feed and shelter him for 40 years or whatever? I don't know. I personally won't dispute this man's death sentence, though I can understand the reasoning some have when it comes to opposing the death penalty. However, there is no shred of doubt that he is the serial killer responsible and he brought this upon himself.

I personally lived in the area terrorized. It could have been me or friends or family.
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Although I agree with the death penalty, I just wanted to point out that capital punishment is more expensive than life imprisonment, as expensive as life imprisonment is.
 
CptStern said:
. why would you even think they'd release someone's who eliigible for the death penalty?
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Serious? Obviously, I was asking "Does anyone think that he should be released or could be rehabilitated?" "Like, are you damn kidding me?" kinda question. In fact, I even answered the question with, "obviously not."

It was a series of test questions to see where we all stand and to figure out exactly why you were opposed to the death penalty.

whether he did what he or not is not the point. a lethal injection is an easy way out. he should be left to rot in his cell till he gives out his last breath. there is no justice in a mericful end to the suffering you're caused.
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I don't know. I think that being sentenced to death and having that number over your head for a quite a few years would be terrifying. Like a death clock. I don't think it's merciful. Especially in the final months, weeks, days, moments. Talk about sweating bullets.

Compared to being allowed to live and breathe until you die of natural causes - though in a cage - it's still life. He could be in there masturbating all day or something. He doesn't deserve to enjoy life in any way.

lefty said:
ultimately he wanted to kill his wife and take custody of his kids, but just killing his wife would make him the prime suspect. So he arranged a killing wave across the nation that his wife would just happen to be a victim of, and he would either get his kids or the money he demanded from police officers and really you have to be a psychopath for it to make sense.
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It makes sense to me. :O
 
VirusType2 said:
They killed random civilians for what reason exactly? He also shot and killed a federal agent. Does anyone think he could be rehabilitated and released back into society? Obviously not. So Americans should pay 10 or $20,000 a year to feed and shelter him for 40 years or whatever? I don't know. I personally won't dispute this man's death sentence, though I can understand the reasoning some have when it comes to opposing the death penalty. However, there is no shred of doubt that he is the serial killer responsible and he brought this upon himself.

I personally lived in the area terrorized. It could have been me or friends or family.
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It costs more to put someone to death than it costs to keep them in prison for life.

And the death penalty sounds great until you realize how many people that were actually innocent were put to death.
 
VirusType2 said:
Serious? Obviously, I was asking "Does anyone think that he should be released or could be rehabilitated?" "Like, are you damn kidding me?" kinda question
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ya but it's not applicable in this case or any case involving captial punishment



VirusType2 said:
I don't know. I think that being sentenced to death and having that number over your head for a quite a few years would be terrifying. Like a death clock. I don't think it's merciful. Especially in the final months, weeks, days, moments. Talk about sweating bullets.
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the thought of spending the next 50 years in a concrete cell would be enough to drive to suicide. also gang rapes, daily beatings etc. every single prisoner in your cellblock would know exactly who he is

VirusType2 said:
Compared to being allowed to live and breathe until you die of natural causes - though in a cage - it's still life. He could be in there masturbating all day or something. He doesn't deserve to find pleasure.
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but you would agree he deserves to experience paiin? you would deny him that by giving him a quick relatively painless way out
 
CptStern said:
he should be left to rot in his cell till he gives out his last breath. there is no justice in a mericful end to the suffering you're caused.
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The point of punishment is reform. Removing the criminal. Removing the threat.

Death penalty does that. We don't punish people for the satisfaction of making bad people suffer. Sure it's a side effect that can make us feel good. But it's not the real reason. Leaving him in jail for the rest of his life never to see him back in society as a functioning member has no advantage over just putting him to death.
 
Understood, but that doesn't change my opinion.

I see you guys are passionate about your opinions on the Death Penalty. I was hoping to hear some more reasoning behind these opinions. I am about 50% for/against the death penalty. It's not that I'm indifferent, it's that I haven't heard a particularly strong argument either way, for or against.

Usually with laws I can very easily decide whether I agree with something or not. This is not one of those times. I have long felt that the punishment should fit the crime. In this case, he terrorized the city and killed innocent people. We can't exactly kill him more than once, or force him to serve hundreds of years in jail. His punishment was confinement, then death. The alternative is simply confinement. Either way, it's not enough - but it is enough - I guess, because we don't have a harsher punishment in our laws.

The fact that he is being put to death removes any possibility for him to kill other prisoners or escape from prison, which could very well be by killing guards or even by means of a Muslim sympathizer, which honestly would not shock me. Then there is the chance he is never caught, or causes more harm to civilians while on the lamb (free). Even if they found him, he could possibly harm or kill more people while trying to escape capture.
 
VirusType2 said:
I see you guys are passionate about your opinions on the Death Penalty. I was hoping to hear some more reasoning behind these opinions. I am about 50% for/against the death penalty. It's not that I'm indifferent, it's that I haven't heard a particularly strong argument either way, for or against.

Usually with laws I can very easily decide whether I agree with something or not. This is not one of those times. I have long felt that the punishment should fit the crime. In this case, he terrorized the city and killed innocent people. We can't exactly kill him more than once, or force him to serve hundreds of years in jail. His punishment was confinement, then death. The alternative is simply confinement. Either way, it's not enough - but it is enough - I guess, because we don't have a harsher punishment in our laws.

The fact that he is being put to death removes any possibility for him to kill other prisoners or escape from prison, which could very well be by killing guards or even by means of a Muslim sympathizer, which honestly would not shock me. Then there is the chance he is never caught, or causes more harm to civilians while on the lamb. (free) Even if they found him, he could possibly harm or kill more people while trying to escape capture.
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he'd be in a solitary wing in a maximum security prison. he wouldnt escape. no one ever has:

http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/...out-moving-gitmo-terrorists-onto-us-soil.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States#Security_levels

and I'm willing to bet few people would cry if he harmed a fellow prisoner
 
Vegeta897 said:
Leaving him in jail for the rest of his life never to see him back in society as a functioning member has no advantage over just putting him to death.
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Except a moral one.

And possibly it's cheaper(?).
 
Should've just been bullet to head when the verdict was reached. Stupid system.
 
snipertaunt.jpg


Thanks for standing still, wanker.
 
Tyguy said:
That's what the defense "claims" but I highly doubt it has any merit.
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lol lets kill him before we find some evidence of it. :)

I'm not getting into the death penalty debate, I would be happy if I never heard of this guy again as he spent the rest of his days locked up for the terrible things he did. Knowing someone is going to kill him back always feels strange to me. Almost as if the judicial system is finished with him they are throwing him to the wolves.
 
The death penalty should not exist. It is wrong for anyone to kill anyone else, especially the government, especially a civilian, especially in a criminal case. The state does not have the right, nor the responsibility, to murder one of its own citizens for disobeying rules. The only legal punishments should be jail time, fines, and probation. If you feel he is a danger to society, lock him up forever. If it was a financial crime, enact huge fines. If it was a small crime,but one worthy of more than a fine, enact short jail time and little probation.

Nothing else.

The constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishments,and I'm pretty sure injecting someone with poison, hanging them by the neck, running electricity through them, burning them, or shooting them is pretty damn cruel and unusual -- not to mention entirely unethical and unbefitting of civilized society.
 
Ah I read about this in the news yesterday.

Good for him!
 
I think it would have been legit to have the guy in a huge parking lot thats barred in and have him a week to feel the terror of being afraid to die by sniper fire. He should have to endure a long and grueling wait for his death with no protection. thats just an eye for an eye and a 50cal bullet costs less than $1 million injection/procedure

mexico does executions for 10 cents a bullet from what i hear, and hell a rope can cost you what?? $5 and is reusable

or hell lets give him Aids and try medical cures on him, at least make it a worthwhile death
 
that might be a problem because of this:

us-bill-of-rights.jpg



...you guys should stay in school :)
 
Tyguy said:
that's a decent idea right there
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I know the Nazis did bad stuff to people but medical science was revolutionized because of their findings sad enough....but really we can turn bad into good and the end result is where its all at! amirite??
 
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