Death is art...

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...at least according to Guillermo Habacuc Vargas, a self proclaimed "artist" (the more appropriate term would be mother****er), who created an installation consisting of a mural out of dog food and a stray dog tied to the wall just far enough to not be able to reach the food.

The dog died during the exhibition of starvation.

For spanish speakers (and for those needing photographs): http://elperritovive.blogspot.com/

Petition against: http://www.petitiononline.com/13031953/petition.html

Seriously, just how sick can people be?

More links:

http://kakii.com/?p=38
http://www.pluginamp.com/network/node/3575
 
Perhaps someone should paint a nice mural using this bastard's innards.
 
;( Poor doggie.

He is obviously crazy.
 
There are worse inhumanities to be found at dog shelters and dog fighting clubs.

One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. Hypocritical to sign a petition for a dog that has already met its end and not sign one to improve conditions for places where dogs are treated like used sofas.
 
Very good point Pesmerga. All people care about is instant gratification.
 
Amazingly, that's the same thing I was thinking Pesh. Yes, it is cruel as hell, and disgusting. But this happens more in legal areas. I don't like what he did any more than the rest..but hell, just call the cops on him :p
 
Im getting sick of what passes as art these days. I mean, a pile of rubbish, and loads of people are like "Oh yes it really gives an insight into the life of the rodent." "Yes, yes its lovely. Truly delightful!" :/

And yeah, what is the use in a petition? One cray artist. Whoop te doo. there are plenty of bad things to petition about.
 
Is there anything as impotent as an online petition?

Having said that, this guy is a total c*nt. Had I seen that display I would have taken a brick to the glass, then the guy's face, then given the dog something to eat. Which begs the question - why didn't anyone do that? It's no use crying about what a bastard this guy is if there were 100's of people looking at the dog and they didn't do shit to help it either.

And that's why I think it really might be art, because it reveals a few uncomfortable truths about the human condition. However, from reading about this event it doesn't seem like this 'artist' had that kind of intent in mind. Just some useless prick who wants to court controversy by means of causing suffering.
 
An online petition is exactly the same as any other, it still gets shown to whatever the relevant authority is.

I have gotten 500 signatures for it. Hoorah! They're not all mine, fyi. ;)
 
Pesmerga said:
There are worse inhumanities to be found at dog shelters and dog fighting clubs.

One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. Hypocritical to sign a petition for a dog that has already met its end and not sign one to improve conditions for places where dogs are treated like used sofas.
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Yes, thank you for your insightful generalization. As dog owners, me and my family support pounds in Poland, especially since we attend (and often win) Dog Shows.

The problem here, is that the death of an animal is passed as "art".
 
It saddens me so much that this dog went through the last stages of his life probably with his hopes raised each time somebody new entered the room.

This person is going to free me, I'll no longer be caged against the wall. One of these people will feed me and take me home where I will live happily the rest of my days.

And then it dies.

:(
 
He wrote 'You are what you read' in dog food just a little away from the dog as well I think.
 
I will beat babies randomly in the streets whit a baseball and call it art
tons of people whitout self identity will praise me
I will be richer that Michelangelo
 
It was the same thing here a couple of years ago. (In Denmark, I think.)

An artist has a live fish in a mixer, and the viewer got to decide whether to press the button or not. The vast majority did.
 
Each and every day I hang out with my brother and sister:
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Now I'm pretty sure that you also may have that special pet in your life. Now just imagine your pet being starved to death. Starved to death for art. Even more disgusting is that food is just inches away. The visitors also take delight by paying to see your dog die a slow painfull death. I mean if you ever had to put a pet down, man just **** this. If I had a chance I would do the same to all the attendess and creater and do something like SAW or something. Only it would take them the same amount of days to die as the dog did. The person terminally ill with cancer thread that I made yesterday was disgusting. This takes the cake though. I mean dogs think like kids! They have the same mentality too, this really just made my day piss poor. Feel almost like crying too. :(;(
 
http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/vargas.asp

Origins: The
above-quoted petition seeks to prevent Costa Rican artist Guillermo Vargas from representing his country in a multinational art exhibition due to his involvement in a controversial work in which a dog was allegedly confined on a bare art gallery floor with no amenities (e.g., food, water, bedding, shelter, toys) until it starved to death. (The artist's point was to highlight the hypocrisy demonstrated by people making an apparently sick and ill-fed dog the center of attention when it was presented as an art exhibit, even though many of them would ignore the same dog if they encountered it roaming the streets.)

We haven't yet been able to confirm whether the circumstances of the exhibit were as commonly represented, however ? whether the dog was continually mistreated (or was only made to appear so while the gallery was open to the public) and whether it was starved to death. In an article about the exhibit published in the Nicaraguan newspaper La Prensa, the gallery's director asserted that the dog was in fact well-fed, and that it had not died (of starvation or any other cause) but had escaped from the gallery during the night.
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Until we find out the truth, we must blindly continue to believe the maybe-lies.

Death to the artist involved!
 
Raziaar said:
It saddens me so much that this dog went through the last stages of his life probably with his hopes raised each time somebody new entered the room.

This person is going to free me, I'll no longer be caged against the wall. One of these people will feed me and take me home where I will live happily the rest of my days.

And then it dies.

:(
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oh man I know what you mean :(
each time somebody come in the room he probably tried to be happy :(
petition signed.
 
I wish he just got a stuffed dog from a Taxidermist. As much of a point as the exhibit made.
 
In an article about the exhibit published in the Nicaraguan newspaper La Prensa, the gallery's director asserted that the dog was in fact well-fed, and that it had not died (of starvation or any other cause) but had escaped from the gallery during the night.
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I find it hard to believe they starved the dog, strays often look emanciated to begin with ..besides there were so many people there, I find it hard to believe no one fed the dog even a scrap of food the entire time at the gallery ..why didnt the person taking the pics for the story feed the dog if he was so concerned? ..the artist has a point about this dog being the centre of attention only because it's at the gallery when every single day animals endure much worse abuse
 
<RJMC> said:
I will beat babies randomly in the streets whit a baseball and call it art
tons of people whitout self identity will praise me
I will be richer that Michelangelo
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LMAO!!!
 
<RJMC> said:
I will beat babies randomly in the streets whit a baseball and call it art
tons of people whitout self identity will praise me
I will be richer that Michelangelo
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I'm sure if you framed the blood marks they make against the wall, anyone would... :hmph:
 
I believe we should discuss the cruelty of this some more after a good steak diner.
 
Gray Fox said:
I believe we should discuss the cruelty of this some more after a good steak diner.
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Your point is ridiculous. Animals eat other animals for food. We're one of those animals that enjoy other animals. Yeah, we should not have suffering of any kind to the animals who provide us with food before they are slaughtered, but comparing the two is like apples to oranges. If that dog were to be starved, he wouldn't be eaten, he'd be used for a political statement.

The whole concept that an individual cannot have sympathy or compassion for animals simply because they consume them is ludicrous. We're humans and WE have that capacity.
 
Raziaar said:
Your point is ridiculous. Animals eat other animals for food. We're one of those animals that enjoy other animals. Yeah, we should not have suffering of any kind to the animals who provide us with food before they are slaughtered, but comparing the two is like apples to oranges. If that dog were to be starved, he wouldn't be eaten, he'd be used for a political statement.

The whole concept that an individual cannot have sympathy or compassion for animals simply because they consume them is ludicrous. We're humans and WE have that capacity.
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Ah yeah, I know what my point was. The animal was suffering needlessly. If we ate the dog afterwards it might not have been so bad. But what I think was wrong was that the animal was killed for our amusement. I don't mind a good steak now and then, but I seriously wouldn't go for watching a dog die, especially not someone causing the death of a dog.
 
Weather or not animals east each other is irrelevant. You're using nature as your moral compass, if we applied that reasoning, we would have to legalize rape murder and pretty much everything else. Because it's all just as natural as animals eating each other. One of the main reasons humans decided to live in civilizations is to escape the cruelty of nature and build a society based on justice.

Second when you eat meat, the chances are high you're eating it out of the pleasure you get from meat not because you cannot get the same nutritions from other sources just as easily. Which boils down to you supporting the killing and in many cases bad treatment of animals just for pleasure. Which is worse then killing for a political statement in my book.
 
Druckles said:
Ah yeah, I know what my point was. The animal was suffering needlessly. If we ate the dog afterwards it might not have been so bad. But what I think was wrong was that the animal was killed for our amusement. I don't mind a good steak now and then, but I seriously wouldn't go for watching a dog die, especially not someone causing the death of a dog.
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Well neither would I, and I argue to say that neither would most people. Eating an animal and watching an animal suffer are two completely different things.
 
By eating animals you're directly supporting their killing and suffering.
 
Weather or not animals east each other is irrelevant. You're using nature as your moral compass if we applied that reasoning, we would have to legalize rape murder and pretty much everything else. Because it's all just as natural as animals eating each other. One of the main reasons humans decided to live in civilizations is to escape the cruelty of nature and build a society based on justice.

Second when you eat meat, the chances are high you're eating it out of the pleasure you get from meat not because you cannot get the same nutritions from other sources just as easily. Which boils down to you supporting the killing and in many cases bad treatment of animals just for pleasure. Which is worse then killing for a political statement in my book.
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Bullshit... Stereotypical PETA bullshit.

Just because I eat meat, doesn't mean I need to support rape murder and much more to simply justify my ability to have complex and varying feelings about different issues. I'm a human, I'm not a god damned robot operating on 8bits of memory.

Don't spout any more of that bullshit. I support the killing of certain animals for food, but I don't support the fact that they might suffer in the process. I think that's something industry needs to change.
 
You can get mad about it, but it doesn't make you anymore right.
 
When I eat meat, I eat it because I enjoy the meat, not because I enjoyed the creature dying. Period.
 
Gray Fox said:
By eating animals you're directly supporting their killing and suffering.
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Never argue with vegetarians. They are always right, and those of us who actually "conform" to the omnivorous status we were all born with, are always wrong.

Oh, and the idea that because I have turkey at Thanksgiving means that I'm having a "Viva La Pain" party whilst cooking it, is completely ignorant on your part. By the way, the suffering typically comes before the killing, but.. you knew that, right?

Go have a carrot stick or some luscious tofu, and let me gnaw on the bloody remains of this T-bone. If I didn't eat it, someone else would.
 
But you do make the conscious decision that your pleasure is more important then the life of an animal, an in most cases an animal that is more intelligent then your cat or dog. Making that distinction is like saying it's ok to kill for money, because then you're just doing it for the money not because you like it. Mind you I'm not comparing the killing of a human to an animal, just the logic behind your reasoning.
You are morally responsible for the suffering and killing of the animals you eat.

But to come back to the topic, the artist killed the dog to make a political statement, not because he enjoyed it. You have supported the killing of many animals.

firenbrimstone said:
Never argue with vegetarians. They are always right, and those of us who actually "conform" to the omnivorous status we were all born with, are always wrong.

Oh, and the idea that because I have turkey at Thanksgiving means that I'm having a "Viva La Pain" party whilst cooking it, is completely ignorant on your part. By the way, the suffering typically comes before the killing, but.. you knew that, right?

Go have a carrot stick or some luscious tofu, and let me gnaw on the bloody remains of this T-bone. If I didn't eat it, someone else would.
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Is there any point to this post. Apart from not really addressing my reasoning it's just restarted. You do know that every time we kill each other, fight wars, steal, we just comform to the natural status we are born with.
 
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