Depression.

Glirk Dient said:
Aspergers is a funny thing...for other people.

I will always remember the halo lan where some kid with cloaking was teabagging a kid with aspergers and the kid went on forever about it.

"OMG YOUR INVISIBLE BUT I CAN STILL SEE YOU TEABAGGING ME"
"STOP IT! Your invisible but I know your doing it!"

Haha...he went on and on and never dropped it. Poor kid, but it was one of the funniest things ever.
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nice that you can laugh at someone with a disability ..well the one redeaming thing is that he was probably 20-50 IQ points smarter than the lot of you ..in fact most people with Aspergers are highly intelligent and often excel in work that involves logic, fine detail or mathematics ..where they excel in some areas they lack in others ..usually social graces but most can live a very healthy productive successful life ...so the next time some moron picks on someone because he thinks he's defenseless it doesnt mean he's incapable of feeling shame, or humiliation or fear (had it been me, I would have punched the largest kid straight in the chin knocking him cold and anyone even said one word I would have knocked him out flat too) ...you didnt earn your eagle merit badge that day that's for sure


disregard the above statement due to being a noob, sorry Glirk, totally misread your post :)
 
CptStern said:
nice that you can laugh at someone with a disability ..well the one redeaming thing is that he was probably 20-50 IQ points smarter than the lot of you ..in fact most people with Asperges are highly intelligent and often excel in work that involves logic, fine detail or mathematics ..where they excel in some areas they lack in others ..usually social graces but most can live a very healthy productive successful life ...so the next time some moron picks on someone because he thinks he's defenseless it doesnt mean he's incapable of feeling shame, or humiliation or fear (had it been me, I would have punched the largest kid straight in the chin knocking him cold and anyone even said one word I would have knocked him out flat too) ...you didnt earn your eagle merit badge that day that's for sure
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You'd knock someone out over a game of Halo? I'd never play with a person who'd be inclined to do that.
 
hmmm ok ..does teabagging mean what it meant when I was young?

flicking a guy in the nuts?
 
Seeing a therapist/psychologist helps. Sometimes its great just to talk to someone about your problem.

I've dealt with serious bouts of depression and anxiety.
 
Try to make your depression into something useful, creative.
As your brain is not doing exactly as its told or , just not giving you the results you might want/expect; find ways to exploit this temporary break in the loop of the mundane.




hmmm ok ..does teabagging mean what it meant when I was young?

flicking a guy in the nuts?
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And the award for mature naivety goes to............
:D
 
I have a psychologist friend who recently wrote a book on depression, and how it can be defeated. I got a chance to read the drafts before it was published. It was pretty illuminating stuff.

As deeply personal as depression feels to the sufferer... it is just a straightforward 'illness', which is caused by a fairly simple mechanism in the brain.
Whether it goes on for six months or twenty years, it's the same thing.

The key to escaping it is to understand how it actually works: there's a cycle, which is self-perpetuating. Once you've recognised it, you can start doing things to break it. Change your behaviour in the right way, and you'll change your brain chemistry. This is proven science, and genuinely do-able. And it can lift a depression of 20 years as effectively as it can a depression of six months.

Of course I'm only talking about depression caused by a 'chemical inbalance'... ie, when the depression doesn't seem to be caused by anything specific.
If there is something in your life which is making you unhappy, that would have to be addressed first...
 
SAJ said:
And the award for mature naivety goes to............
:D
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oh nice make fun of the old guy ..so explain what it is
 
CptStern said:
oh nice make fun of the old guy ..so explain what it is
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"Tea bagging." This is a sort of celebration where the victor squats over the vanquished's face to simulate dipping his testicles into the cold, dead, open mouth of the corpse much in the same way one would dip a teabag into a cup of hot water.

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There ya go.
 
I personally take lexepro and see a therepist once a week, helps me alot. It takes alot of time, and you have to do alot of shitty copeing. I hope you feel better Raz and turst me i've been where you are, and still am somewhat. I have suffered from anxiety and depression since I was 14ish and it's not an easy thing to cope with. Hang in there, as cheesy as it sounds, thats the best advice I can get, people care about you even if it doesn't feel like it's worth getting up in the morning.

As far as anyone saying you are emo or whatever, **** it, who really cares if they label you "emo" for ****s sake emo is a clothing style these days anyways, so who really cares. It's now a part of this new masculinity complex to be against emmotions? I'm sorry but it's just the same pre-adolescent bullshit thats been going on for years - saying that men cant discuss emmotions without being labeled a coward or "emo". I wish some people on these boards would grow up or just go away.
 
Greatgat said:
"Tea bagging." This is a sort of celebration where the victor squats over the vanquished's face to simulate dipping his testicles into the cold, dead, open mouth of the corpse much in the same way one would dip a teabag into a cup of hot water.

teabag48af.gif


teabag88mb.gif


There ya go.
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oh ...that's not fun at all :x

but to each his own ...enjoy! :thumbs: ;)
 
I talk to someone. Also, people say crying lets out a lot of stress, but I haven't cried in years (don't know why, just can't) so I wouldn't know. Music, friends, human contact, girls, cuddling, all that. If it's really bad, then seek help.
 
I'm completely broke right now. How can those of you who have tried it, afford therapy? I'm interested in trying some medication, to see if it can balance out my moods... but I don't have much money to spend... I hate that you can never get an evaluation for any of these things, when it comes to costs. Like going to the doctors office, I never do, because its a great mystery on how much you'll be charged... and they can royally stick it to you and break it off.
 
jondy said:
I empathise, but bear in mind this is a gaming forum, not Psychologists r' Us.
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i think that thought is overrated. sure, it's a gaming forum... but we have wise old men here too. and generally people who can help.

what's the cause of your depression raziaar? i was once there, and really it seems like nothing matters anymore... but i suppose the only way of dealing or getting over depression is getting over it (depends on the cause)
 
Raziaar said:
I'm completely broke right now. How can those of you who have tried it, afford therapy? I'm interested in trying some medication, to see if it can balance out my moods... but I don't have much money to spend... I hate that you can never get an evaluation for any of these things, when it comes to costs. Like going to the doctors office, I never do, because its a great mystery on how much you'll be charged... and they can royally stick it to you and break it off.
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your insurance should provide for therapy, ask your parents
 
CptStern said:
your insurance should provide for therapy, ask your parents
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I'm twenty, dude. And i'm currently jobless.
 
My friend was going through depression for about 2 months..he made some bad choices earlier...like buying his very controlling girlfriend a car. Ya well, his girlfriend left him..and me and all my friends thought that he should be extremely happy because, she was extremely forceful, she had a depression disorder herself, and she always made him buy her stuff.

It turns out, he got depressed..never slept for a whole week, and he started to smoke. He told us that on the last week of them being together, his girlfriend tried to kill herself 4 times...which I can believe. I can't believe they stayed together that long.

Anyway, the point is...if you get depressed, don't start smoking or staying up for many days in a row.

He's almost over it now...he got advice from me and his GOOD friends (not his crap friends...which induced him to smoke), and he's doing fine now.

If I get depressed, what really helps me is music. My two favorite bands (which I just heard not to long ago) are Nightwish and Dragon Force. Those bands give your life a boost in the right direction. Music is what gets me ready for almost anything.
 
Get involved in something. Seriously. Find something that will give you direction, or at the very least, something to do. I was very depressed at one point, but I took a friends suggestion and started doing things. I found a job, started playing football with these guys I knew, started drawing and I found a whole lot of things that I really enjoyed. So eventually I started enjoying myself a lot, and the depression went away.

However if there is a chemical problem, then medication is probably your best choice. Definately find a job, any job available and make some money to see a doctor. That way you can find out if there is a chemical imbalance, and if there isnt, your already on your way to becoming more active.
 
CptStern said:
nice that you can laugh at someone with a disability ..well the one redeaming thing is that he was probably 20-50 IQ points smarter than the lot of you ..in fact most people with Aspergers are highly intelligent and often excel in work that involves logic, fine detail or mathematics ..where they excel in some areas they lack in others ..usually social graces but most can live a very healthy productive successful life ...so the next time blah blah blah personal issues.


disregard the above statement if you care. :)
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It's great that you seem to know a fair amount of the subject, but the one thing I absolutely cannot stand more than anything is people referring to AS as a disability.

Granted simple motor function such as walking is sometimes impaired in some of us *coughmecough*, othercognative abilities are increased as you have stated.

I see this condition merely as a compromise of nature.

Just as I see homosexuals as nature's way to keep idiots from breeding (joke) I see AS as nature's emotional defense mechanism for today's high-strung society and it's pressures. (:
 
Raziaar said:
I'm completely broke right now. How can those of you who have tried it, afford therapy? I'm interested in trying some medication, to see if it can balance out my moods... but I don't have much money to spend... I hate that you can never get an evaluation for any of these things, when it comes to costs. Like going to the doctors office, I never do, because its a great mystery on how much you'll be charged... and they can royally stick it to you and break it off.
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A perfect example of why these United States can disgust me, the money can at times indeed determine your long term health. I love my country dont get me wrong but this is one of it's critical flaws. What i'd suggest is if you have an insurance plan, take advantage of it, if not (which i'm sure you dont, or you probably have a dodgy cheapstake shitty one.. most are), then you should a friend to confide in, to share yourself with and to open yourself up to.

Also dont be afraid to indulge and spoil yourself, do something you consider fun even if it is lazy or or stupid and seemingly a waste of time. Often times when someone is depressed they consider this type of self indulgement selfish but when you actually act it out it can help you realize yourself and what you want to do to set your life back where it needs to be. I'm not suggesting drugs or anything harmful to your health but more along the lines of 2-hour long sessions of watching televion. Before you go and call this rediculous keep in mind that someone who is truly clincally depressed cannot accomplish anything for anyone else (includeing oneself) until personal needs are met and ideas are allowed to surface. Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom in order to see the "light" and find yourself again.

Depression in my eyes is one of the hardest things to diagnose, you may be at a low point in your life.. which most people consider depression. But then there is clinical depression which in a sense is incurable with the only treatment being time and possibly therepy and medication, if you are indeed clincally depressed I think you need the aid of other people, put yourself in the position to be helped if you cant afford it, dont be afraid to confide and find someone who cares about you to just sit down and listen. Explore your misery, indulge yourself in it, but do not hurt yourself --always see the irrational side of suicide , the fact that after time things will get better, and that there is always someone who cares - time is the only cure to something like this, along with other people in your life to confide in and help you along the way to getting through it.

Most of all however, i'd have to say go get a "medication appointment" with a psychiatrist, just one time - try to get your insurance to pay for it and possibly help with whatever drugs he may prescribe for you. Do not stick with a drug if it makes you feel worse experiment until you find one that is right for you. Your shrink may be able to give you samples of various ones if others dont work. Talk to the guy or girl.

Ok this post is getting rather lengthy but this topic means alot more to me than many of you know, clincal depression runs in my family and people very close to be have been very close to suicide so I feel it's my duty to help people understand it's more than just "amplified emmotion" or a self induced pity spree, it's a real serious mental condition that needs treatment. I personally have had suicidal tendencies and found out how to deal with them, and as far as treatment goes I have a therepist who I love and see every week and have tried every ssri and anti-depressant on the market practically.. finally found one that works.

I should also add my dad is a liscensed psychotherpist and child/adult psyciatrist, and my mother is an adult Councelor / Pshycologist
 
Raziaar said:
I'm completely broke right now. How can those of you who have tried it, afford therapy? I'm interested in trying some medication, to see if it can balance out my moods... but I don't have much money to spend... I hate that you can never get an evaluation for any of these things, when it comes to costs. Like going to the doctors office, I never do, because its a great mystery on how much you'll be charged... and they can royally stick it to you and break it off.
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Why are you broke? Do you have a job? Are you a student? Why can't your parents pay your bills? I'd like to hear about your personal situation.
 
babyheadcrab said:
As far as anyone saying you are emo or whatever, **** it, who really cares if they label you "emo" for ****s sake emo is a clothing style these days anyways, so who really cares. It's now a part of this new masculinity complex to be against emmotions? I'm sorry but it's just the same pre-adolescent bullshit thats been going on for years - saying that men cant discuss emmotions without being labeled a coward or "emo". I wish some people on these boards would grow up or just go away.
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There's a good reason for why it's not advisable to be "emo". It's not about masculinity; it's about having a responsible state of mind, being able to make choices unhindered by negative emotions, and understanding the consequences of everything you do. When one is "emo", he can more often be found dreaming up negative introspective rubbish than enjoying himself or working towards bettering his life. Such an irrational person is probably more prone to taking dangerous drugs over the weekend than studying for an upcoming midterm. Then two years later, when he's jobless and broke, all he can do is cry to his parents and write depressing ramblings into his livejournal about his lack of a future and most recent break-up.

Having emotions is perfectly fine; it's just important to always keep focus on the direction of your life. Emo people are often negligent in that regard, especially after they start whining, cutting their wrists, and attempting suicide (in no particular order).
 
babyheadcrab said:
A perfect example of why these United States can disgust me, the money can at times indeed determine your long term health. I love my country dont get me wrong but this is one of it's critical flaws. What i'd suggest is if you have an insurance plan, take advantage of it, if not (which i'm sure you dont, or you probably have a dodgy cheapstake shitty one.. most are), then you should a friend to confide in, to share yourself with and to open yourself up to.

Also dont be afraid to indulge and spoil yourself, do something you consider fun even if it is lazy or or stupid and seemingly a waste of time. Often times when someone is depressed they consider this type of self indulgement selfish but when you actually act it out it can help you realize yourself and what you want to do to set your life back where it needs to be. I'm not suggesting drugs or anything harmful to your health but more along the lines of 2-hour long sessions of watching televion. Before you go and call this rediculous keep in mind that someone who is truly clincally depressed cannot accomplish anything for anyone else (includeing oneself) until personal needs are met and ideas are allowed to surface. Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom in order to see the "light" and find yourself again.

Depression in my eyes is one of the hardest things to diagnose, you may be at a low point in your life.. which most people consider depression. But then there is clinical depression which in a sense is incurable with the only treatment being time and possibly therepy and medication, if you are indeed clincally depressed I think you need the aid of other people, put yourself in the position to be helped if you cant afford it, dont be afraid to confide and find someone who cares about you to just sit down and listen. Explore your misery, indulge yourself in it, but do not hurt yourself --always see the irrational side of suicide , the fact that after time things will get better, and that there is always someone who cares - time is the only cure to something like this, along with other people in your life to confide in and help you along the way to getting through it.

Most of all however, i'd have to say go get a "medication appointment" with a psychiatrist, just one time - try to get your insurance to pay for it and possibly help with whatever drugs he may prescribe for you. Do not stick with a drug if it makes you feel worse experiment until you find one that is right for you. Your shrink may be able to give you samples of various ones if others dont work. Talk to the guy or girl.

Ok this post is getting rather lengthy but this topic means alot more to me than many of you know, clincal depression runs in my family and people very close to be have been very close to suicide so I feel it's my duty to help people understand it's more than just "amplified emmotion" or a self induced pity spree, it's a real serious mental condition that needs treatment. I personally have had suicidal tendencies and found out how to deal with them, and as far as treatment goes I have a therepist who I love and see every week and have tried every ssri and anti-depressant on the market practically.. finally found one that works.

I should also add my dad is a liscensed psychotherpist and child/adult psyciatrist, and my mother is an adult Councelor / Pshycologist
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Good post babyheadcrab. I'm going to send you a pm sometime tomorrow.
 
Nat Turner said:
There's a good reason for why it's not advisable to be "emo". It's not about masculinity; it's about having a responsible state of mind, being able to make choices unhindered by negative emotions, and understanding the consequences of everything you do. When one is "emo", he can more often be found dreaming up negative introspective rubbish than enjoying himself or working towards bettering his life. Such an irrational person is probably more prone to taking dangerous drugs over the weekend than studying for an upcoming midterm. Then two years later, when he's jobless and broke, all he can do is cry to his parents and write depressing ramblings into his livejournal about his lack of a future and most recent break-up.

Having emotions is perfectly fine; it's just important to always keep focus on the direction of your life. Emo people are often negligent in that regard, especially after they start whining, cutting their wrists, and attempting suicide (in no particular order).
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I dont have the time or the mental capacity to reply to this post at the time, but in short, I dont think you understand clinical depression in the least. Some people are incapable of seeing light, they are unable to accomplish anything with a sense of fufillment, this cannot be gained simply by working harder in some cases. Emo is short for emmotion, emmotions are a part of everyone's life, and emmotions be you male or female need to be openly discussed. I would not define this thread as a discussion of "emo" attention whoreing kids who cut for "attention" but rather a discussion of serious mental illness that developes in teenagers and adults. I think you are talking about a phase in someone's life and I am speaking about a serious illness. The two have basically nothing in common.

When somebody labels someone else as emo just for speaking about they're emmotions or seeking help on how to cope, it frustrates me to no end, and yes I believe it's part of a rediculous age old immature notion that expressing any type of feelings or emmotions or opening yourself up to others is "emo". When in fact if more people did this we might live in a slightly less hateful world.

Emo is just the latest word people use to thrash people who express themselves. There is a subculture of teenagers who would like to be labeled of emo but that is something entirely different, and pepole should choose they're words wisely when posting.
 
Sometimes the area you live in can make you crazy, untill you become one of those people who make that area depressing / scary to live in. I see that you live in a very disturbing area - America. We all know about that gun toteing, paranoid 'hood. Don't go walking at night either!

If you can afford it, I'd suggest moving, or going on a holiday. Somewhere more quiet and peacfull, where you have less chance of being shot by some gang or paraniod wierdo. Somwhere like Iraq perhaps? I hear you have less chance of being shot there than in the US(going by statistics). Just don't act like a tourist. I hear they don't like them too much.
 
babyheadcrab said:
Emo is just the latest word people use to thrash people who express themselves.
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No. "Emo" is the latest word to describe people who express constant negativity and sorrow, albeit undeserved and born more out of a need for attention as opposed to any genuine and understandable angst.

You can say "drama queen" or "attention whore", but "emo" accomplishes such a description in fewer syllables.
 
Absinthe said:
No. "Emo" is the latest word to describe people who express constant negativity and sorrow, albeit undeserved and born more out of a need for attention as opposed to any genuine and understandable angst.

You can say "drama queen" or "attention whore", but "emo" accomplishes such a description in fewer syllables.
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But people overuse the term a whole lot..
 
Absinthe said:
No. "Emo" is the latest word to describe people who express constant negativity and sorrow, albeit undeserved and born more out of a need for attention as opposed to any genuine and understandable angst.

You can say "drama queen" or "attention whore", but "emo" accomplishes such a description in fewer syllables.
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Oy, such truth here.
It's like idiot punk teenagers that wear anarchy bracelets. They have no clue what it means but they wear them 'cause it's "cool". These days, it's "cool" to be depressed.
 
MiccyNarc said:
Oy, such truth here.
It's like idiot punk teenagers that wear anarchy bracelets. They have no clue what it means but they wear them 'cause it's "cool". These days, it's "cool" to be depressed.
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Believe me. I don't ****ing feel cool for being depressed. Ruining my god damn life.
 
CrazyHarij said:
But people overuse the term a whole lot..
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Probably. Or perhaps it seems that way because so many people think it's cool to be that way. I agree that calling somebody emo for simply expressing emotion is dumb.

BTW no disrespect to your situation, Raziaar. Just going off on a tangent about people who fashion their lives around this thing. Are you sure it's a chemical imbalance? Are you positive that there's nothing wrong or lacking in your life that might be making you feel this way? I don't expect you to answer that, but just think about it. I went through a long stretch where everything just seemed like crap, but it was like I spent all that time denying my problems so extensively that they no longer even occurred to me. Then one day I sat down, thought real hard about it, and accepted what I was feeling and why.

I still have the problem, but I know what it is now at least.
 
If I feel down, I change something, can be anything, from moving your bed someplace else, or moving house, I like to think of something else.

This is of course, if I can't fix the problem/difficulty.
 
Yes I have, I take medication for it, or else I feel suicidal/lethargic no matter how good my life is. It sucks. A lot.
 
Absinthe said:
Are you sure it's a chemical imbalance? Are you positive that there's nothing wrong or lacking in your life that might be making you feel this way?
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I'm sure there are some things wrong in my life. In fact, there's no doubt about that. Nobody's life is perfect. However, I genuinely believe there's some chemical imbalance going on. My mom has diagnosed bi-polar disorder... and while I'm sure I don't have the full blown effects of that, there's something else at play besides situational things affecting me. At times when I have alot to be happy about and cheerful... I just sit and stare. It's pretty sad really.
 
Well, of course nobody's life is perfect, but it really depends on the problem. I can relate to what you're saying, but I've found my experiences always trace back to a personal issue.

Check with a professional, as has been said before.
 
Buy a cake and eat the whole thing. If you don't die from a diabetic coma you will be glad you ate an entire cake. It will make ya feel better, because cake is natures feel good fruit in cake form.
 
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