Do any of you have follow a specific Religion?

Kangy said:
My girlfriend is kind of a catholic without choice really. I guess I have to pretend I'm a Christian too to make her parents happy sometimes. She hates the whole thing though, and mostly sleeps whenever she can at gatherings and events she has to go to.

Catholic and Christian are quite different. Maybe you should pretend you're a Catholic instead.

And tell me, why doesn't she have a choice? Its her life. If she doesn't believe in the religion, she shouldn't feign that she is a follower of it.
 
Her parents are just strong believers, and she doesn't want to upset them because otherwise, they're some of the best people I know, and she loves them a lot. I'm from Protestant England, so they don't really expect me to be a Catholic.
 
Kangy said:
Her parents are just strong believers, and she doesn't want to upset them because otherwise, they're some of the best people I know, and she loves them a lot. I'm from Protestant England, so they don't really expect me to be a Catholic.

if it wasnt for people like her these days, religion would have become extinct.

i wish they WAS extinct.
people believing fairytale stories that we cant prove is true.

my other views are expressed in my previous post. :dozey:
 
KoreBolteR said:
if it wasnt for people like her these days, religion would have become extinct.

i wish they WAS extinct.
people believing fairytale stories that we cant prove is true.

my other views are expressed in my previous post. :dozey:

lol. right, everybody who is of a religion doesn't actually practice it. Sure sure. ;)
 
I consider myself an agnostic. Because let's face it, even though we can use rationality and logic to disprove certain aspects of large organized religion, no one has or will come up with definitive proof that a God (as we understand the term meaning a supreme being) does not exist.

Maybe that's why I'm also attracted to deism. I think some people wrongly associate atheism/agnosticism with laziness, and for the most part I think this is unfair. This may be true for some people who are just genuinely lazy, but most of the atheists and agnostics I know have read the Bible or have a good understanding of the ideas of major religions but just don't believe in any of it. I feel the same way. I wish I could believe in the Bible. I just can't because my reason/rationality/ whatever you want to call it won't let me. In the end, however, I think anyone should be able to practice whatever religion they want to.
 
KoreBolteR said:
if it wasnt for people like her these days, religion would have become extinct.

i wish they WAS extinct.
people believing fairytale stories that we cant prove is true.

my other views are expressed in my previous post. :dozey:

So upsetting the people she loves pretty dearly without any real reason other than personal comfort is how to do things then? Yeah, I really want to upset the people I end up staying with! Some needless hostility sure is fun!
 
Kangy said:
So upsetting the people she loves pretty dearly without any real reason other than personal comfort is how to do things then? Yeah, I really want to upset the people I end up staying with! Some needless hostility sure is fun!

Well, i'm sure they'd be more understanding than you might think. However, if she's content feigning it, I guess nothing you can do, especially if you don't want to. However, it may be worse when she keeps this going on for years and years, and her parents found out she was just lying about her religious beliefs for all those years.
 
"Science may have alleviated the miseries of disease and drudgery and provided an array of gadgetry for our entertainment and convenience, but it has left us in a world without wonder. Our sunsets have been reduced to wavelengths and frequencies. The complexities of the universe have been shredded into mathematical equations. Even the technology that promises to unite us, divides us. Each of us is now electronically connected to the globe, and yet we feel utterly alone. We are bombarded with violence, division, fracture, and betrayal. Skepticism has become a virtue. Cynicism and demand for proof has become enlightened thought. Is it any wonder that humans now feel more depressed and defeated than they have at any point in human history? Does science hold anything sacred? Science looks for answers by probing our unborn fetuses. Science even presumes to rearrange our own DNA. It shatters God's world into smaller and smaller pieces in quest of meaning... and all it finds is more questions."

This quote accurately expresses my view on Christianity and religion in general. I'm not Christian, but frankly I find the frequent attempts to subvert the value of religious thought on this forum very distasteful. How dull your mind must be to not see the poetic beauty of the psalms, or not appreciate the wisdom of Solomon, or not recognize truth even when it is laid out as plainly as can be in the teachings of the Christ. One must truly be mentally and emotionally dead to be oblivious to the value of such writings, even in our modern society. You don't have to believe in it's infallibility to believe in it's power and purpose.

I can bask in the wonder of Botticelli's Birth of Venus without believing in the myth. I can still see how it might touch a soul or inspire a mind. Can religion not be a work of art also? Can it not simply be a way of expressing mankinds astonishment at the universe, but in the form of thought provoking writing and poem rather than paint on canvas?

Some of you say have said in this thread and others, that religion is a hinderance and it's abolishment would be progression. I say that if we kill off the Bible, the teachings of the Buddha, the writings of Egyptian preists, the Koran, and others, then we snuff out a larg chunk of what makes mankind beautiful. Our ability to imagine amazing possibilities, to express our thoughts and hopes beyond transitory societal constraints, to explore the depths of our own morality and even our very souls, our attempt at becoming the best huamn beings we can be.

Is religion truly not as essential as anything else?


I challenge anyone to read the following and not feel it's meaning in the deepest depths of their being: "Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more [will he clothe] you, O ye of little faith?" Luke 12:27-28


Somehow I feel I'm wasting my time.
 
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