Do you drink? (alcohol you numnuts)

[CrazyHarij]

yep, and alot of it

brown ales and whiskey are my favs when it comes to taste

 

[Warped]

well i had a nice Pinot Grigio and it was amazing. it hardly feels like wine at all and if i were to have bought more i'd drink more of it. wine is supposedly good for you because it can flush your system of unhealthy buildups

 

[noQ]

As I enjoy beer, wine (especially with food) and some occasional rum I prefer the herb. Can't stand hangovers nor the problems and violence alcohol causes in the society. It is unhealthy as hell as well if drunk like a drunk.

 

[kineaesth]

well i had a nice Pinot Grigio and it was amazing. it hardly feels like wine at all and if i were to have bought more i'd drink more of it. wine is supposedly good for you because it can flush your system of unhealthy buildups

Just like water!

 

[noQ]

It is healthy if used moderately with food, but if drunk like other beverages it still damages your liver and central nervous system just like vodka and yadda yadda yadda.

 

[Emporius]

Anything that claims to 'flush fat/toxins/buildup' is bogus. Red wine is good for you for other reasons, reasons that I am too lazy to pull off of wikipedia.

 

[Danimal]

I don't - I can't see the point in drinking something that makes you act stupid and slowly rots you from the inside out

Do you drink coffee, by any chance?

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

I offset the rot by drinking varnish.

 

[Robert-]

I drink bleach.

 

[Dog--]

yep, and alot of it

brown ales and whiskey are my favs when it comes to taste

Finally someone else who likes whiskey. I drink straight whiskey and people call me ****ed, then I call them pussies - amirite?

 

[Danimal]

I used to drink straight bourbon a lot.

Edit: Am I man?

EDIT: ...Am I?

 

[morgs]

Most people I know drink for the trend and to look cool...I'd rather have a coke.

 

[Asuka]

Not a lot but ill get twisted here and there.

 

[Ennui]

+1 to the whiskey/bourbon lovefest. My favorite alcohol some of my friends are pussies about it though.

My usual standby is Evan Williams - cheap bourbon, but still tasty and not quite bottom shelf.

 

[jet_porkins]

I never have intentionally tried booze, and I have no intention to do so in the future.

 

[CptStern]

may I ask why? you havent tried it so why would you immediately discount ever trying it? really, what are you afraid of? becoming an alcoholic?

 

[jet_porkins]

^^ I made my decision after observing my father who recently died and some of the choices he made, and also after hearing from my Mom about the stuff he did before their divorce.

 

[Sheepo]

If you don't have find something appealing and there is no obvious gain from it, that's enough to not try it.

 

[JNightshade]

If you don't have find something appealing and there is no obvious gain from it, that's enough to not try it.

Normally I'd disagree, but if there's alcohol abuse in your family I'd consider sobriety a pretty good call.

Anyway, I drink. Too much. I've been drunk for five out of the last seven nights. This is what happens when you live in the wildest dorm of a school nicknamed "The Zoo."

 

[CptStern]

^^ I made my decision after observing my father who recently died and some of the choices he made, and also after hearing from my Mom about the stuff he did before their divorce.

oh come on he's the exception to the rule. the overwhelming majority of people do not drink to anywhere near excess. Having a drink will not make you an alcoholic

I find it funny that so many conservatives equate drugs or alcohol with absolute and instant addiction when the majority of users would barely fit into the "occasionally drink" catagory

 

[jet_porkins]

It's the principle of it. I have a feeling that drinking in moderation will eventually lead me to turning to alcohol when the shit hits the fan in life, which could lead to more problems, etc etc etc. Just like STDs, abstinence is the only sure-fire prevention method.

Oh and don't call me conservative again, because it's a mis-characterization. Alcohol being in my face all the time since birth made me grow tired, and quite furious at it. Ergo, no drinks for me.

edit: Of course I know that one drink probably won't make you hooked.

 

[Sheepo]

Normally I'd disagree

Why? You think every one should try every thing whether they are interested in it or not?

 

[kineaesth]

Just like STDs, abstinence is the only sure-fire prevention method.

A perfect example of shackling one's life to avoid an otherwise minimisable risk.

This abhorrence of the smallest dangers confuses me to no end. I don't understand how people can live a happy life if they're constantly afraid of everything. It's why my takeaway coffee has 'CAUTION, HOT CONTENTS' written all over it. It's why I've seen a child burst into tears when she witnessed her father smoking a cigar, because she thought that he was going to die - if not immediately, then very soon.
It's why kids like you (excuse me if this is condescending) think that abstinence is the only way to protect yourself from the evilbadscary Herpes or HIV, and insist on peddling this idealistic and completely unrealistic view to everyone else. A lot of stuff in life is bad, but what's worse is people making uninformed/blanket decisions to protect themselves. There's no knowledge - just fear and scare-mongering.

Abstinence is a perfect example of this - taking something to an extreme to try to eliminate an otherwise manageable risk. Avoiding STD's isn't difficult - make sure that you and your partner are both clean, or at least not infectious. Avoid too much fluid contact until then, make sure to use condoms or dental dams for every activity. Make becoming fluid bonded a final step in the process. STD's are, for the most part, treatable. And everyone, everyone, wants to have sex. Rather than eliminating all risk entirely, why don't we teach people how to minimise the risks as much as possible?

Similarly, you're not going to become an alcoholic if you drink. Besides the immediate assumption that when people drink, they get drunk, alcoholism isn't lurking for you around every corner, waiting to pounce as soon as you have that cool beer at the end of a long, hot day.

The people who say 'live every day as if it were your last' are stupid. You should try to enjoy every day, and try to ensure you get many more days to enjoy as well. So there's no point living in a state of terror, unseen evils following you around. Do shit right, and you'll be fine. Otherwise it's like living in a cage, on antibiotics.

[edit] - To address your edit: I'm glad you're not assuming that, but all you need to do is not rely on alcohol. You're cutting out drinking entirely to protect yourself from something that would only happen if you were in an abusive relationship with alcohol.

 

[CptStern]

It's the principle of it. I have a feeling that drinking in moderation will eventually lead me to turning to alcohol when the shit hits the fan in life, which could lead to more problems, etc etc etc. Just like STDs, abstinence is the only sure-fire prevention method.

if this were true the majority of people would be alcoholics

Oh and don't call me conservative again, because it's a mis-characterization. Alcohol being in my face all the time since birth made me grow tired, and quite furious at it. Ergo, no drinks for me.

because you've only associated negative feelings towards it it doesnt mean that your fears would come to fruition

edit: Of course I know that one drink probably won't make you hooked.

but your fear stems from your father being an alcoholic ..in your mind this is a real possibility or you wouldnt have said you never plan on having a drink. even one is too much

 

[Sheepo]

Oh ffs, what's the point in this argument? He doesn't want to drink, it's his ****ing life.

 

[CptStern]

why do you care? this has nothing to do with you, so butt out

 

[Sheepo]

I don't mind pointless arguments regarding important or relevant issues, but when you reach this kind of super pointlessness, I feel inclined to point it out. He's made a decision that he's happy with and that isn't going to have any sort of obvious negative outcome on him or anyone else, yet you feel inclined to interrogate his every motive on the matter.

 

[CptStern]

I don't mind pointless arguments regarding important or relevant issues, but when you reach this kind of super pointlessness, I feel inclined to point it out. He's made a decision that he's happy with and that isn't going to have any sort of obvious negative outcome on him or anyone else, yet you feel inclined to interrogate his every motive on the matter.

I'm asking a question because I'm curious, jesus just shoot me now. also you're being hypocritical mr giving me the 3rd degree

 

[Sheepo]

Do you read your posts?

 

[Omnomnick]

Nope, I don't drink, because I choose not to.

 

[Ennui]

I don't mind pointless arguments regarding important or relevant issues, but when you reach this kind of super pointlessness, I feel inclined to point it out. He's made a decision that he's happy with and that isn't going to have any sort of obvious negative outcome on him or anyone else, yet you feel inclined to interrogate his every motive on the matter.

Protip: Stern is Stern, and has been Stern for a long time, and will continue being Stern regardless of what you say to him, and if that bothers you, it'd be intelligent to put him on your ignore list.

 

[jet_porkins]

if this were true the majority of people would be alcoholics

I realize that when I used the sentence "I have a feeling that drinking in moderation will eventually lead me to turning to alcohol when the shit hits the fan in life, which could lead to more problems, etc etc etc," I came off like I was generalizing the public who drink, but I wasn't; it was a statement specifically about me. I'm pointing out that while certainly not all drinkers have a dependency or drink larger doses when life is bad, but it inarguably does happen.

I'm going to address both of the following at once.

because you've only associated negative feelings towards it it doesnt mean that your fears would come to fruition

I don't understand how people can live a happy life if they're constantly afraid of everything.....It's why kids like you (excuse me if this is condescending) think that abstinence is the only way to protect yourself from the evilbadscary Herpes or HIV, and insist on peddling this idealistic and completely unrealistic view to everyone else.....You should try to enjoy every day, and try to ensure you get many more days to enjoy as well. So there's no point living in a state of terror, unseen evils following you around. Do shit right, and you'll be fine. Otherwise it's like living in a cage, on antibiotics.

[edit] - To address your edit: I'm glad you're not assuming that, but all you need to do is not rely on alcohol. You're cutting out drinking entirely to protect yourself from something that would only happen if you were in an abusive relationship with alcohol.

What I haven't said overtly that I think needs to be pointed out is that first and foremost I simply have no desire as a consumer to drink. As far as a thirst-quencher goes, I'm satisfied with my current selection. I said that I have never "intentionally" consumed alcohol before, but I have tasted it once accidentally when I thought my dad poured me a cup of apple cider. It was less than pleasant.

It is not as though: I have a desire to drink yet because of the worst case scenario looming in the air, I should abstain from it, regardless of my desire to drink. The case is both a.) I have zero desire or curiosity to partake (not to mention my one brief encounter tasted bad, and before you say anything I recognize that the one taste does not represent all alcoholic beverages) as well as b.) the fact that there's a depressing worst case scenario that's always possible, regardless of how moderate of a drinker a person is. Having personally witnessed case B, I have been drained of any curiosity I have for the drink.

KA: Aren't you 16? I could be mistaken.

I have more to say on the matter, but I gotta run.

edit: also at KA: As far as living a happy life goes, I'm covered, and will continue to be covered. Alcohol, or even sex, isn't needed.

 

[Kadayi]

Socially, but never by myself.

 

[Hobostomp]

A perfect example of shackling one's life to avoid an otherwise minimisable risk.

This abhorrence of the smallest dangers confuses me to no end. I don't understand how people can live a happy life if they're constantly afraid of everything. It's why my takeaway coffee has 'CAUTION, HOT CONTENTS' written all over it. It's why I've seen a child burst into tears when she witnessed her father smoking a cigar, because she thought that he was going to die - if not immediately, then very soon.
It's why kids like you (excuse me if this is condescending) think that abstinence is the only way to protect yourself from the evilbadscary Herpes or HIV, and insist on peddling this idealistic and completely unrealistic view to everyone else. A lot of stuff in life is bad, but what's worse is people making uninformed/blanket decisions to protect themselves. There's no knowledge - just fear and scare-mongering.

Abstinence is a perfect example of this - taking something to an extreme to try to eliminate an otherwise manageable risk. Avoiding STD's isn't difficult - make sure that you and your partner are both clean, or at least not infectious. Avoid too much fluid contact until then, make sure to use condoms or dental dams for every activity. Make becoming fluid bonded a final step in the process. STD's are, for the most part, treatable. And everyone, everyone, wants to have sex. Rather than eliminating all risk entirely, why don't we teach people how to minimise the risks as much as possible?

Similarly, you're not going to become an alcoholic if you drink. Besides the immediate assumption that when people drink, they get drunk, alcoholism isn't lurking for you around every corner, waiting to pounce as soon as you have that cool beer at the end of a long, hot day.

The people who say 'live every day as if it were your last' are stupid. You should try to enjoy every day, and try to ensure you get many more days to enjoy as well. So there's no point living in a state of terror, unseen evils following you around. Do shit right, and you'll be fine. Otherwise it's like living in a cage, on antibiotics.

[edit] - To address your edit: I'm glad you're not assuming that, but all you need to do is not rely on alcohol. You're cutting out drinking entirely to protect yourself from something that would only happen if you were in an abusive relationship with alcohol.

Sorry, I know I'm not in this debate so this is none of my business, but I just felt the compulsion to point out that your post makes it sound like alcohol is one of the things needed in life to make people happy. And I think that says more about you and the rest of the people in the debate than it does about jet_porkins.

 

[Sledgehammer]

I drink whitewine on very rare occasions.

 

[knut]

Yeah, but only on the occasion where friends are present. I'm never in desperate need of a can or pint at random times of the day, but I won't see no if a bunch of us are going to go for a quiet drink down the local. With my friends being at uni and only coming back every other break, it's then that we'll go out into town to a student bar or a club and have a really good time - not good as in LOL IM SO HAMMERED BLARGHRHRH (I can't remember the last time I've thrown up from alcohol - but hangover headaches are still aplenty!) but just a generally fun night out. If someone has a free house or garden that we can have shenanigans at I'll buy quite a few beers and some spirits and again, go for the hootenanny and good time.

I drink for the taste really, but I'm pretty selective on my drinks. Quite linear, too.

 

[Krynn72]

I had drank couple time.

 

[PvtRyan]

Just like STDs, abstinence is the only sure-fire prevention method.

A.k.a: Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

OT: Not really, getting drunk just makes me incredibly drowsy and sleepy, yay party!

 

[kineaesth]

KA: Aren't you 16? I could be mistaken.

As far as living a happy life goes, I'm covered, and will continue to be covered. Alcohol, or even sex, isn't needed.

I'm eighteen. If you're happy, all gravy. I tried to make that post quite not-about-you-specifically. Every time someone plugs abstinence-only as a good idea I'm going to put on an angry face, though.

Enjoy your hand, I know I do.

Sorry, I know I'm not in this debate so this is none of my business, but I just felt the compulsion to point out that your post makes it sound like alcohol is one of the things needed in life to make people happy.

Nice work there with the quoting. My point was that it's avoiding things altogether rather than the arguably smarter choice of learning to minimise the risks. If you notice my post wasn't totally about alcohol, and more about the concept in general, with reference to abstinence, which is more of an issue.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

I think the point KA is trying to get across is that we should all try anal.