do you have the wikileaks "insurance" file

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it looks like the day that wikileaks will actually have to release the "key" is inching closer and closer... Anyone else torrented the encrypted file?
 
lol fileshare or megaupload will probably have it too i assume
 
Krynn72 said:
Whats all this now?
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Wikileaks is an organization that has been distributing leaked, classified intel on international diplomacy, military, and government stuff online for the past few years. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of files, ranging from military videos of killings in Iraq to diplomatic cables transmitted between embassies across the world. Recently, the organization and its spokesperson Julian Assange have been under fire by the US government. Julian Assange has been accused of rape in odd circumstances, the government has pressured Amazon and Paypall to stop hosting wikileaks services, and most recently the wikileaks site itself has been downed by a DDOS attack.

Of course, you can't stop the signal... So it's up somewhere else again:

http://213.251.145.96/

So what's to deter the US or another government from simply assassinating Assange or shutting down the organization? They have over a gigabyte's worth of even "bigger issue" files to use as a form of leverage. They've released this encrypted file over the internets. If anything deadly is to happen to them, they will release the "key" to the 1.46 gb file. Top secret stuff will then be automatically unlocked by users all over the world.

Most recently, wikileaks has released thousands of diplomatic cables. Nothing we couldn't have surmised by ourselves, but it's kind of amusing reading the shit-talk that ambassadors and diplomats talk about each other in private texts.

BBC news has a pretty good go-to page for more info on wikileaks news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11863274

and of course:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikileaks

It's awesome to live in a time in which an internet website, bittorrents, and regular internet users like you and I can actually impact geopolitics.
 
I actually just meant the file, since Im fairly familiar with the organization itself. But thanks anyways. I didn't know about this file, seems like a damn ballsy move. Just means the govt will take its time to organize a simultaneous takedown of everyone who has the password.
 
US govt vs the WORLD. Good luck on that one.
 
Krynn72 said:
I actually just meant the file, since Im fairly familiar with the organization itself. But thanks anyways. I didn't know about this file, seems like a damn ballsy move. Just means the govt will take its time to organize a simultaneous takedown of everyone who has the password.
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that's true, but that's a LOT of people to go after. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of people safely downloading the file in countries outside the USA. Can't touch them. And plus once one source goes up on the net, it's game over. Unless all those hitmen are in place across the globe already. D:
 
Downloading that file now. Wonder what information it holds.

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Hokey said:
Downloading that file now. Wonder what information it holds.
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What do you mean you wonder what information it holds? It contains millions of unedited classified US documents. But you can't look at them, because it is encrypted. You need the key.

The point is, Assange probably has some simple program (similar to the TV show Lost), where if he doesn't stop the countdown timer, the key will automatically by made available to everyone. So if you arrest him, or if he dies, the timer ticks down to zero and the key is made available.

I'm just assuming, because that's the way I'd do it.
 
Well, that's cool, I guess.

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Jerry_111 said:
Wikileaks is an organization that has been distributing leaked, classified intel on international diplomacy, military, and government stuff online for the past few years. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of files, ranging from military videos of killings in Iraq to diplomatic cables transmitted between embassies across the world. Recently, the organization and its spokesperson Julian Assange have been under fire by the US government. Julian Assange has been accused of rape in odd circumstances, the government has pressured Amazon and Paypall to stop hosting wikileaks services, and most recently the wikileaks site itself has been downed by a DDOS attack.

Of course, you can't stop the signal... So it's up somewhere else again:

http://213.251.145.96/

So what's to deter the US or another government from simply assassinating Assange or shutting down the organization? They have over a gigabyte's worth of even "bigger issue" files to use as a form of leverage. They've released this encrypted file over the internets. If anything deadly is to happen to them, they will release the "key" to the 1.46 gb file. Top secret stuff will then be automatically unlocked by users all over the world.

Most recently, wikileaks has released thousands of diplomatic cables. Nothing we couldn't have surmised by ourselves, but it's kind of amusing reading the shit-talk that ambassadors and diplomats talk about each other in private texts.

BBC news has a pretty good go-to page for more info on wikileaks news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11863274

and of course:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikileaks

It's awesome to live in a time in which an internet website, bittorrents, and regular internet users like you and I can actually impact geopolitics.
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Jesus Christ that makes it sound like Assange is nothing but a giant pretentious asshole.

Also, do they realize that this might be decrypted by enemy powers?
 
I was thinking the same thing. I don't really know how strong the encryption is, and I'm assuming it's quite strong, so it might take a cutting edge desktop PC 100 years to break the encryption. But the latest supercomputers could crack it relatively quickly, I would guess.

The top supercomputers are owned by:
China
USA
Japan
 
My download has completed.

....

Brb, these two guys in black suits are knocking on my door outside.

P.S. You know what would be a twist? If the CIA were working their ass off to protect Assange, behind-the-scenes right now. Why would they do that? To prevent foreign powers from taking out Assange, who would WANT to see Wikileaks release the "key" to damage the USA's reputation.

Presto, there's your basis for the plotline of the inevitable movie adaptation.
 
VirusType2 said:
I was thinking the same thing. I don't really know how strong the encryption is, and I'm assuming it's quite strong, so it might take a cutting edge desktop PC 100 years to break the encryption. But the latest supercomputers could crack it relatively quickly, I would guess.

The top supercomputers are owned by:
China
USA
Japan
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It's extremely strong and pretty much uncrackable by any computer.
 
because it is the most powerful encryption program AES (Advanced Encryption Standard)
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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/who-will-be-first-decrypt-wikileaks-insurance-file

That's not true. I'll assume it's 256 bit, but I've got better encryption on my hard drives. Best way would be to encrypt it with a combination AES 256, Two-Fish 256, and Serpent 256. Tangle that shit up.

It's not like 'America's true enemies' have computers that could decrypt it, but I don't think it's immune to one of the best supercomputers decrypting it in a reasonable amount of time to where the information is still useful.

Supercomputers get faster all the time, of course - that's the thing. USA is building two that are each 8 times faster than the fastest one in the world (the one China just finished building this year).

I'm not implying that USA would have any reason to break this encryption, I'm just speaking freely.
 
Hey you better not try to stop me from releasing this secret information or....I'll release this secret information!

Give me a break.
 
But unmodified, including all names, locations and any other tidbits.
 
Anyone else think that Assange will remain in hiding forever? Well you know what I mean...
 
Using the most powerful computers available it would take decades to crack these files.

Assanage said that if he is arrested he will release the key. I say good for him. They are trumping up false rape charges against him, I'm glad he is fighting back.
 
No Limit said:
Using the most powerful computers available it would take decades to crack these files.

Assanage said that if he is arrested he will release the key. I say good for him. They are trumping up false rape charges against him, I'm glad he is fighting back.
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Here we're witnessing No Limit's gradual change into Danimal.
 
Are these new, uncensored documents or are they all of the previously released, uncensored documents? Couldn't quite understand what it was.
 
love how the media is spinning this to mean Assange is blackmailing the global community when he's not. he's saying that regardless if he's arrested or not the leaks will be released. arresting him will only speed up the process


all those that say he should be dealt with in some way are completely missing the point: the pandora's box has already been opened
 
I just can't wait to see what they will do once he releases the bank records in January. I think the current smear campaign against him is just the beginning.
 
VirusType2 said:
I was thinking the same thing. I don't really know how strong the encryption is, and I'm assuming it's quite strong, so it might take a cutting edge desktop PC 100 years to break the encryption. But the latest supercomputers could crack it relatively quickly, I would guess.

The top supercomputers are owned by:
China
USA
Japan
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Not if it's a 256 bit encryption. It would take those computers until long after everybody who even cared about it was dead. Even longer than that!

When you get into 256 bit you're talking about it being pretty much impossible to brute force.
 
Scotland Yard has received the paperwork required to arrest WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, sources said tonight.

A fresh European Arrest Warrant has been issued by the authorities in Sweden where he is wanted for questioning over claims of sexual assault.

Mark Stephens, who represents the 39-year-old Australian former computer hacker, said he would fight any move to extradite his client.

But the move means there is no longer any legal impediment to holding Mr Assange and making him appear before City of Westminster Magistrates' Court.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rk-need-to-arrest-julian-assange-2152447.html

If the threat Assanage made isn't an empty one the encryption key could be coming very soon.
 
No Limit said:
Ouch, low blow brah.

What exactly did I say that you don't agree with?
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It's just a combination of all of our previous disagreements. Nothing really anything specific here. Assanage is probably going to get put away on nothing really concrete because he pissed off all the wrong people. It's like if you piss off the mob you'll prolly end up dead. The only thing this guy has going for him right now is the fact that he's in the spot light. If he fades away even just a little... we'll probably just see a blip on how he was "killed by a fanatic" or imprisoned on some near unrelated charge.
 
in an interview with his lawyer this morning it seems like sweden screwed up the arrest warrent and the UK's case is shoddy
 
Surely there's something in your patriot act that says that your Govt can end his shit?

Everyone has to get their weiner photographed at the airport but this dude can get away with this?!
 
Earlier, the Government condemned the publication of a secret list of facilities that the United States considers vital to national security.

The website revealed a detailed list of installations worldwide including a number of sites in the UK such as satellite sites, BAE Systems plants and cable locations.

It also included hundreds of pipelines, undersea cables and factories, including a cobalt mine in Congo, an anti-snake venom factory in Australia and an insulin plant in Denmark.

A Downing Street spokesman said: "We unequivocally condemn the unauthorised release of classified information.

"The leaks and their publication are damaging to national security in the United States, Britain and elsewhere.

"It is vital that governments are able to operate on the basis of confidentiality of information."
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What? Why would Wikileaks spread this kind of information?
it exposes some critical, classified facilities, such as undersea cables, satellite systems.

A spokesman for David Cameron, the British prime minister, on Monday condemned the release of the secret list of key global infrastructure, saying such leaks were "damaging to national security".
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/12/201012681418198508.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...fai=CofAXjib9TJzHPJ7SyQT7ycCdAwAAAKoEBU_Q34pH
"When we look at some of the sites listed on this document these things make it very easy to then say these are the sorts of targets we should be aiming for and then they can move very quickly to a reconnaisance phase."

Potential targets

The cable categorises the potential targets in several sectors as such:

The NIPP identifies 18 CI/KR sectors: agriculture and food; defense industrial base; energy; healthcare and public health; national monuments and icons; banking and finance; drinking water and water treatment systems; chemical; commercial facilities; dams; emergency services; commercial nuclear reactors, materials, and waste; information technology; communications; postal and shipping; transportation and systems; government facilities; and critical manufacturing.
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When we look at some of the sites listed on this document these things make it very easy to then say these are the sorts of targets we should be aiming for and then they can move very quickly to a reconnaisance phase."

Potential targets
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terrorist made submersibles with giant needle nose pliers will crawl on the bottom of the ocean looking for unsuspecting undersea cables

mash this now

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Raziaar said:
Not if it's a 256 bit encryption. It would take those computers until long after everybody who even cared about it was dead. Even longer than that!

When you get into 256 bit you're talking about it being pretty much impossible to brute force.
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Not at all. In a few years, we'll have Exascale computers, 1000 times faster than Petascale supercomputers, (which I still strongly believe are perfectly capable of decrypting AES 256 bit encryption. This is just standard everyday office encryption for the US government).

one petaflop, i.e. one quadrillion floating point operations per second.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petascale
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Like I said "Bomb here". Poor some nasty shit in this water supply here, this should kill 20 million infidels; this is where 40% of US food grows, start fire here, etc.

Explain to me what that has to do with transparency. I'm sure you'll think of something.
 
and you think Assange is bigger/worse than jesus/Hitler
 
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