doctor who series 5 this saturday

I was hoping for a Dalek-free series but I'm not surprised at all that the BBC would want to keep the flagship badguys in centre stage for merchandising.
 
and now this saturday's episode.. Time of the Weeping Angels.
 
My guess is that when the gravity ball bursts it sucks them all upwards (which is why he asked them to jump) into the ship's wreckage.

Also, Moffat seems to be writing most of this season himself. Give some other writers a chance!
 
Ok it was obvious Amy fancied the Doctor but she practically tried to rape him in the last episode. And the Doctor's great plan to save the universe is to take her on a date with her financé to Venice or something? Wat? Shouldn't he see what happens tomorrow (I guess they're saving that for the finalé).

As for the main part of the episode. I didn't like how they showed the angels moving. The point is that they're only supposed to be stone when they're moving and also they're supposed to be stone whenever the audience is looking at them. They're also supposed to be super-fast so why do we get to see them moving really slowly while still stone? DOES NOT WORK and makes them less scary.

This episode also completely ignores the fact that the angels turn stone when they see each other and they can see in the dark. That was how the first episode with them was resolved FFS! Yet here we can see groups of them advancing when the ones at the back should be looking straight at the ones in the front. And in the scene I mentioned in the previous paragraph they shouldn't have been able to grab at Amy anyway because half of them were looking straight at her! I don't know if it's Moffat's fault or the director's but FFS at least keep your creatures consistent.
 
Ok it was obvious Amy fancied the Doctor but she practically tried to rape him in the last episode. And the Doctor's great plan to save the universe is to take her on a date with her financé to Venice or something? Wat? Shouldn't he see what happens tomorrow (I guess they're saving that for the finalé).
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yeah i cant wait to see the next episode purely because it is going to be so bloody ridiculous. We need to get amy and her fiance to bed each other to stop the unraveling of time and space but meanwhile amy wants to rape the doctor. Oh the highjinks ;) :LOL:
 
I rather like the turn of events, and it's far stronger than the weak-ass threads the previous series' of New Who have had. It's clearly a mid-series red-herring, but you'd barely hear a whisper of the finale in a mid-series up to now.

Enjoyed the episode as it seemed to proclaim 'we can undo all the shit T Davies left us!' too. Perhaps that's why the angels have completely different behaviours. Sssh.
 
Damn Rim you got perfect everything I thought was wrong with that episode.

I agree with what Terry Pratchett said about Dr Who in that there's no real outcome that doesn't rely on some really stupid thing, like how for some reason the gravity ball gave them an 'updraft' to the ceiling?
Moffat has some excellent ideas on baddies, but it seems that coming to the climactic peak/conclusion, he runs out of steam and turns to some ridiculous thing.

In The last weeping angels episode, I agree the gravity shutting off is logical, but come on Moffat, if the angels are draining the power, why not allude to the gravity failing earlier on? Not only that, but Amy's walkie talkie having a 'software' upgrade? Last I knew companies rarely put proximity sensor hardware in their stuff and conveniently 'forgot to turn it on'.
And finally, throughout that episode when Amy was counting down, Moffat had a perfect place to add in some puns to do with the counting "What's that four?", "I still don't get why this ship has a forest of threes" etc. He started well with "I'm five... I'm five... I'm FINE" but then completely missed the rest of the point.

Sigh.
 
Pratchett is right, there are very few episodes I can think of that buck that trend - Blink arguably being one of them.
 
The latest episode, Vampires in Venice was actually pretty good, but then it wasn't written by Moffat, who I've become jaded with now. It was written by Toby Whitehouse, who seems pretty competent.
SPOILERS AHEAD
There were multiple very funny instances (including the pre-credit sequence in the stag-do) which I enjoyed, and overall it was a very well written episode. Everything was explained in a non-doctory way (fast talking about things that don't make sense), and defeating the baddies was down to the characters, not the tools at the character's disposal (that fecking sonic screwdriver was even useless once, which is what I like to see).
One problem I had though was the death of the Fish-queen. The contraption that kept her human form supposedly broke in the 'on' position, so why, when she took it off, did she keep her form? Sure it led to a fairly good ending where the queen was devoured by her subordinates, but it didn't make sense.
If we assume the transmitter made you keep human form, even when it wasn't attached to your body, why did she carry it round with her? She could have just turned into human form, then left the transmitter somewhere safe where she could turn it off later if she needed to go for a swim.
So yes, the ending kinda spoiled what was a very well-written episode (much better than Moffat's recent outings), but overall, I'd say 8/10.
 
I was hoping they'd turn out to be Haemovores. Oh well.
 
Space fish episode was ok. I also noticed that

when the fish queen goes to kill herself she takes off her top layered dress, when that image is meant to be a fixed image and not real, it doesn't have layers.

Next weeks episode looks absolutely immense though, looks good enough that it could be up there with the likes of silence in the library and blink.
 
Nerd-rant: Up until now the perception filter, aka Doctor Who's new favourite handwave, has just caused people not to notice things. In this episode it tricks the brain into seeing human instead of fish-alien. It doesn't project an image it alters how the brain interprets the image. That's ok. Why exactly does if **** up in the mirror? Because people just won't accept seeing giant fish aliens? The Doctor is the only one who tried to look at them in a mirror and he should have no problem accepting giant fish aliens at all.

The fish's allergy to sunlight is also entirely random. They walk around in the daylight entirely fine but then sometimes they need a shawl and sometimes they don't and the boy EXPLODES after getting a make-up mirror focusing a tiny amount of light on him. Surely the energy from that small beam couldn't be much compared to him being fully naked to the sun just before that!

Back to the perception filter: It affects brain waves to make it look like something you're more familiar with, so why would it fool the fish-alien kids (who are evidently complete retards other than the queen) in to thinking the queen was human? She also took off clothes she wasn't even wearing.

And why did Fancesco or whatever his name was get in a sword fight? It seemed totally random when we already knew he was a giant fish alien.
 
This is a weird god damn show but I can't stop watching it.

It'll be even harder now that we have an adorable red head as his companion.
 
ríomhaire said:
Nerd-rant: Up until now the perception filter, aka Doctor Who's new favourite handwave, has just caused people not to notice things. In this episode it tricks the brain into seeing human instead of fish-alien. It doesn't project an image it alters how the brain interprets the image. That's ok. Why exactly does if **** up in the mirror? Because people just won't accept seeing giant fish aliens? The Doctor is the only one who tried to look at them in a mirror and he should have no problem accepting giant fish aliens at all.

The fish's allergy to sunlight is also entirely random. They walk around in the daylight entirely fine but then sometimes they need a shawl and sometimes they don't and the boy EXPLODES after getting a make-up mirror focusing a tiny amount of light on him. Surely the energy from that small beam couldn't be much compared to him being fully naked to the sun just before that!

Back to the perception filter: It affects brain waves to make it look like something you're more familiar with, so why would it fool the fish-alien kids (who are evidently complete retards other than the queen) in to thinking the queen was human? She also took off clothes she wasn't even wearing.

And why did Fancesco or whatever his name was get in a sword fight? It seemed totally random when we already knew he was a giant fish alien.
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The perception filter blanks out in the mirror presumably because the signal bounces weirdly. WHO KNOWS. Sunlight was bullshit. I took it to mean that the alien piranhas would just eat anything you tossed in there except for a breeding female. Franscesco got in a sword-fight because sword-fights are awesome.

Honestly Riom you're acting like Doctor Who is more than really well-made well-budgeted B-grade television
 
I have to problem with cheesy monsters and cartoon science. What I don't like is bullshit. Unfortunately half of Doctor Who is bullshit. The other half is great, but sometimes the waiting for the good parts really sucks.
 
Wow. I was not expecting that with Rory. Doctor Who writers have grown a pair of balls.
 
Hmm. Point. For some reason the whole erased from time thing made me forget it is Doctor Who after all.
 
ríomhaire said:
Wow. I was not expecting that with Rory. Doctor Who writers have grown a pair of balls.
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They should have chucked that lizard bint into the gap to resurrect him, she was dying anyway.
 
Oh for ****'s sake. Richard Curtis just had to lactate sentimentality like the giant weeping tit he is. That episode was pretty good up until the point where I was sick into my mouth.

"It is my firmly held opinion that Van Gogh was the greatest artist who ever lived Wank Wank Wank".
 
It was totally bizarre. Is Van Gogh's reputation in trouble or something? Why is it necessary to end the monster-of-the-week plotline ten minutes before the end of the episode and fill the time with a panegyric to one of the most famous and well-known artists who ever lived? I mean sure, I teared up, but I cry at the end of every film and am no useful barometer.
 
I thought that was probably the best episode of Doctor Who I've ever seen. It was everything Doctor Who should be and more.

But then I've said that about most episodes so far this series.

Not looking forward to next week though. James Corden is often underwhelming and the next time trailer left me cold. Looked very RTD-era. But then I wasn't excited for the Silurian episodes and they were brilliant too.
 
Stupid uk-only lock on stupid game I want to play D:
 
Man that Van gogh episode was terrible. Half of it was just them sitting around hugging and crooning over Van Gogh.
 
I loved the Van Gogh episode, mainly because myself and my girlfriend are massive fans of him :p I really am not looking forward to tomorrows episode, I hate Cordon with a passion.
 
Screw you guys, Van Gogh episode was brilliant.

Pointless, sure, but brilliant.
 
yeah i liked the van gogh one too as strangely pointless as it seemed to be o_O
 
Van Gogh episode was pure quality, my favourite episode in a long time. Thought Gogh was played brilliantly and the ending although a bit cheesy was...fitting for Dr Who.

The James Corden one, as with most of Corden's stuff, was forgotten quite quickly.
 
Holy shit. I ****ing love the
Autons

My jaw was on the floor most of that episode.
 
Saw the twist coming a mile off though. Wonder how they'll deus ex out of this one.
 
I heard about this show a long time ago but thought it was garbage, and never really payed attention to it, until it was picked up by one of our local channels. Watched the first 2 seasons on tv, then proceeded to watch back to back all the episodes on the net. I've reached the start of season 5 now.

Probably one of the strangest shows I've ever seen. The only series I think even remotely comes close is Farscape.

My main complaint on this series is that it doesn't know what it wants to be. It flip flops violently from serious to ridiculous, from comedy to drama, so on and so forth.

It also has an annoying tendency of ruining otherwise great ideas/scrips with cheesy/cartoony effects or aliens. One example that springs to mind is that episode with the buss that ends up on an alien planet. Great premise and atmosphere partly ruined by the cheesy 1950's B movie looking fly head aliens. I mean, really? Fly aliens? They couldn't come up with anything better than that?

Overall it's a mixed bag, half great, and half garbage. However it does have it's charm, after all it managed to turn a hater into a fan.

I think I would enjoy it a lot more if they gave this show a bigger budget, better effects, and just tried to make it more serious, instead of treating it like some sort of glorified kid's show.
 
You do realise this show has been around since the 60s, right? (Stupid question really. They constantly reference the older stuff). Cheesy 50s visuals, bi-polar comedy/drama and the whole 'glorified kids show' are kind of the point. That stuff is part of its heritage. I don't doubt that they could make a better sci-fi show than Doctor Who, but one that airs at 7 O'Clock on Saturday and keeps going for 31 Series? Probably not. And anything more gritty, big-budget* and serious simply wouldn't be Doctor Who.

* as far as BBC productions go, it already is big-budget anyway.
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Saw the twist coming a mile off though. Wonder how they'll deus ex out of this one.
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I'm expecting it to come quite literally. Like the Tardis exploding somehow puts the whole universe back in order anyway.

River hasn't killed someone yet.
 
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