Doom Movie News

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Some news on the Doom movie surfaced a few days ago as IGN put together a panel for viewing some bits and peices of the film a few months before it's released. I haven't watched the video, so I don't know if there's any additional info, BUT

Some highlights:

-- The movie DOES take place on Mars, but the creatures, reminicent of demons/hell/zombies, are genetic mistakes/mutations. The team is sent there to stop an uprising of these creature.

-- There is a sequence, possibly sequences, displaying the movie in first-person. Although you may think they'll screw this up, it's reported as being an incredibly cool series of scenes.

-- Of course, the movie is incredibly gory....hence the R-rating.

Anyway, here's the link: http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/634/634545p1.html

I know this should probobly go in the movies/film section, but it is a movie based on a game, so I guess it's kind of relevant here. Enjoy.
 
Lt. Drebin said:
Sorry bout that man. Didn't even notice that. :) The more Doom news the better, even if it is repeated....and especially good news.
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no prob
true dat, tho, this news is good news, and i'm glad to be hearing it now, so i have plenty of time to get hyped before the movie comes out in october
 
Lt. Drebin said:
-- The movie DOES take place on Mars, but the creatures, reminicent of demons/hell/zombies, are genetic mistakes/mutations. The team is sent there to stop an uprising of these creature.
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no demons?

well if better that a resident evil apocalipsy rip off

and are more screens?
 
<RJMC> said:
no demons?

well if better that a resident evil apocalipsy rip off

and are more screens?
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they said they would have the demons from the games in there like the baron of hell, hell knight, imps, etc. - so even if they're not "demons" per se, they're still fighting the same monsters, and that's what matters
 
Icarusintel said:
they said they would have the demons from the games in there like the baron of hell, hell knight, imps, etc. - so even if they're not "demons" per se, they're still fighting the same monsters, and that's what matters
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oh cool

well I remenber I played a few of doom1 and liked doom3 so I am not a big fan but will be cool to see a scene whit a lot of hell knights
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Doom monsters (in-game) are actually a combination of hellspawn and human technology, perhaps even an alien race that fused the two together and lost control of it.

Anyways, all I really need in the movie is one badass Doom marine. If he's a sissy, I'm leaving the theatre.
 
Pesmerga said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Doom monsters (in-game) are actually a combination of hellspawn and human technology, perhaps even an alien race that fused the two together and lost control of it.

Anyways, all I really need in the movie is one badass Doom marine. If he's a sissy, I'm leaving the theatre.
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partially, but then you're also mixing quake in when you're talking about the mixing of tech and flesh, though there certainly is some of that in Doom - cyberdemon anyone?
 
No. ****ing no.

Demons from Hell, people. Demons from ****ing Hell or I walk.
 
Icarusintel said:
partially, but then you're also mixing quake in when you're talking about the mixing of tech and flesh, though there certainly is some of that in Doom - cyberdemon anyone?
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Not only the Cyberdemon...you see technology imbued in almost every monster, possessed soldiers, lost soul, pinky demon, mancubus, revenant, and again, Cyberdemon

Edit - And after reading Absinthe's post, it really doesn't matter where officially the monsters come from, be it from Hell or what. Although I've always liked the Hell theme, which is most obvious in the Doom games.
 
Absinthe said:
No. ****ing no.

Demons from Hell, people. Demons from ****ing Hell or I walk.
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Want me to show you where the door is? You better get walking.

Anyways I need to see the trailer!

Oh, and I just loved the last question.. Made me laugh
 
The technology is all Hell-produced.

I want the Hell theme. Not this tired and stupid "OMFG GENETIC MODIFICATION MAN-MADE ZOMBIE" bullcrap. If they want to respect the source material, I better see a pentagram somewhere in there. Seeing as how id is considering continuing the franchise in the likeness of the movie, I want to see the core remain intact.

I've heard that they considered dropping the Hell theme because it could potentially turn off Christian viewers. My response is that they should buck up and grow some balls. Plenty of movies have used demonic references or have based themselves on the subject matter. Besides, they're killing demons. Christ, isn't that something people can root for?

Iced_Eagle said:
Want me to show you where the door is? You better get walking.
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You're very cute.
 
Blah BLah Blah the monsters/demons should be from hell not some kind of genetic mistake like every other movie out there this sucks doom was not about a genetic mistake it was about finding hell.:|
 
Absinthe said:
Seeing as how id is considering continuing the franchise in the likeness of the movie, I want to see the core remain intact.
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Wrong.

Id is not returning to Doom, infact, that would be such a stupid mistake. It was even a mistake to make Doom 3. Id has already said multiple times that they are starting a brand new game.

Doom 1 and Doom 2 were awesome games because of their simplicity. Doom 3 could never have been as popular a game as Half-Life 2 was because everyone was expecting Doom 3 to be magically great like the originals were.

I'll be here all day to debate that with you if you choose to disagree.
 
Pesmerga said:
Wrong.

Id is not returning to Doom, infact, that would be such a stupid mistake. It was even a mistake to make Doom 3. Id has already said multiple times that they are starting a brand new game.

Doom 1 and Doom 2 were awesome games because of their simplicity. Doom 3 could never have been as popular a game as Half-Life 2 was because everyone was expecting Doom 3 to be magically great like the originals were.

I'll be here all day to debate that with you if you choose to disagree.
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*Sigh* :rolleyes:

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/635/635120p1.html

"IGN: Now that you've got a cast in place, and people in the movie portraying characters, would you ever consider, or are you considering, doing a game based on the movie?

HOLLENSHEAD: That's an interesting question… Doom III, after the long effort to get it done, we finally shipped it to the PC last August, and of course, it just came out on the Xbox in April, so we really haven't… our effort on the interactive side has been more towards the stuff we showed at E3 this year; you know, Quake IV and Enemy Territory: Quake Wars and then the team at id is actually working on our next game, which is not going to be a Doom, Quake or Wolfenstein game; we're working on a new IP.

So, we really haven't put a lot of thought into what happens next in the Doom franchise of games… Obviously, with Karl and The Rock and those guys on the videogame side, you're going to have some popular characters from the movie, whether we model characters after those guys or whether we use them in connection with VO, those types of things we have to decide, we have to decide what direction we want to go with the next game. It's an interesting thing, sort of the switch back and forth, going from videogames to movies, which is obviously far more rare than movies to videogames, and then if it goes back to videogames, that's something I still think is a bit of unexplored territory."

Yes, they are forming a new IP. No, that does not mean that Doom franchise has ended. Yes, they are considering the possibility of using the likeness of the film.

Debate away, brah. You've heard it straight from the horse's mouth.
 
Pesmerga said:
It was even a mistake to make Doom 3.
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Congratulations!!

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a LONG time. You go ahead and tell that to the millions that either own or have played the game. It may not be perfect, but a mistake it is certainly not. I think that comment was a mistake...but you go ahead and make the argument for that.
 
As much as people say Doom sucks, I find the single-player quite fun and still play it occasionally

I hope the movie doesn't suck, last time I checked, The Rock doesn't have that many good movies under his belt.
 
Absinthe said:
Yes, they are forming a new IP. No, that does not mean that Doom franchise has ended. Yes, they are considering the possibility of using the likeness of the film.

Debate away, brah. You've heard it straight from the horse's mouth.
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I don't understand how that translates into "Id is making Doom IV".

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a LONG time. You go ahead and tell that to the millions that either own or have played the game. It may not be perfect, but a mistake it is certainly not. I think that comment was a mistake...but you go ahead and make the argument for that.
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You're right, mistake was a bad word to use. I did mean that Doom III could never have acheived the same acknowledgement of Doom 1 or 2, no matter how great Doom 3 could have been, because you'd have two constant sides of a Doom 3 bashing. One side would be "Oh, it's not going back to its roots that Doom 1 and 2 has" and the other would be "It's not up to par with other games today" both annoyed with the game's result because it wasn't what they had expected out of Id. I'm not saying Doom 3 is a bad game, (although it scared me shitless more often than not), I'm just saying that maybe they could have left Doom 1 and 2 as they were and put all that effort into better things, like a new IP.
 
Pesmerga said:
I don't understand how that translates into "Id is making Doom IV".
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Gee, neither do I. Maybe that's because I never said that.
 
I explained why I wanted the Hell theme. You wagged your finger, said I was wrong about something, and then challenged me.

I started no argument.
 
I don't believe they'll be walking away from the Doom franchise for good. Doom 3 was an immeasurable success.

I see the development being passed off to another company like Raven. Quake 4 looks awesome. It would result in a fresh take on the series and maybe another direction.
 
Absinthe said:
I explained why I wanted the Hell theme. You wagged your finger, said I was wrong about something, and then challenged me.

I started no argument.
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What?! I said nothing in debate to your 'hell theme'.
 
Wrong...I'll be here all day to debate that with you if you choose to disagree.
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That was regarding the continuation of the Doom franchise.
 
If they didn't want to piss of christians or whatever, they could have simply said that the scientists accidentally opened a portal and monsters flooded in. In Doom the scientists didn't actually know they opened a portal to hell, they were just experimenting with portals between Mars' two moons, but something went wrong with a portal and monsters started coming through, and you and your squad were called from your station on Mars to Phobos.

They could have just did that, and not mention anything about hell or demons and it would have been completely accurate to Doom (as far as the story goes), instead of doing a virus/mutation/etc. story.
 
Trailer here.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/636/636398p1.html

I am so ****ing depressed.

"Gaming enthusiasts should be pleased with the teaser, which shows a number of scenes that seem to clearly and intentionally evoke the Doom gaming experience. And the film's tone appears to be true to the original game and its two follow-ups."

Evocative of the Doom experience? Sorry, but I don't recall busting into a Mars facility with a squad. I remember being a lone at practically every second and nearly shitting myself. I don't recall having to evacuate an entire facility with screaming crowds and all that crap. I remember most people being either dead, zombified, or far away, and certainly not in great numbers. I don't recall gene mapping having ANYTHING to do with the plot. I recall ****ING HELL.

Even better:
"Although many fans of the Doom computer games are upset by the major changes made to the film – like setting it on a fictitious planet instead of on Mars and abandoning the gateway-to-Hell premise – the movie still might become official canon for the games. Tim Willits, the lead designer for Doom 3 at id Software, suggested to Computer and Video Games.com that future Doom games might be based on the movie."

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/588/588159p1.html

Just... **** you.
 
Lt. Drebin said:
I don't believe they'll be walking away from the Doom franchise for good. Doom 3 was an immeasurable success.
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I don't know if its immeasurable, but it was certainly a success.
Halo 2's success with measurable. $125-million-on-the-first-day kinda measurable success. Still the game has its flaws, same with Doom 3.
Now, World of Warcraft, there's a game that could be called an immeasurable success. 3.5 million people paying $50 a month for the same thing over and over again.

3,500,000 x 50 = 175,000,000 per month

Blizzard have it made.

Back on topic however, this thread over at imdb.com has some pretty good info in it

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419706/board/nest/23156229
 
Gah! IMDB requires registration to view topics? Since when?
 
Well I like the changes they made personally.

If they did the exact same story as Doom3 the fans would go "Oh what the hell, I've already done this! Been there done that..."

Plus, they aren't just making this for the gaming hardcore... They need to modify it so they get good sales, and that means making a plot people can understand.

I'm excited for it... .Looks cool, has a Doom feeling...
 
Scientists open portal to Hell, shit happens. What's not to understand? I do not expect it to have the same exact plotline, but I do expect the themes to remain.

Imagine if they made a Half-Life movie, but changed the headcrabs from aliens into man-made parasites. Or made the Combine into mere pissed-off cyborgs.
 
Well where's the depth? I think that the story works for video games... But not for movies... How can people relate to opening a portal to hell? If your audience can't relate to the movie in some way or another, people just won't "connect" with it.

Plus, there are many interpretations of the word "hell"... Is it a physical place? A spiritual place? The zombies were created and have evil in them... Perhaps they did come from "hell"

Just because they don't use that word, doesn't mean it isn't implied...
 
And where's the depth in the cliched genetic manipulation plotline? Don't tell me that the audience can't relate, because that has nothing to do with it.They can't relate to alien invasions either, nor freakish biological experiments gone wrong. Hell, they can't even relate to zombies, something that's exclusive to neither Hell or sci-fi. How can you even suggest that the new theme has any more depth, as if the movie would have any to begin with.

When I speak of Hell, I speak of fire, pentagrams, the mangling of human flesh to create structures and entities, the chantings from another plane. Perhaps not the Bible's version of Hell, but one that is very much supernatural and existent elsewhere.

What's implied is that monsters are of our creation. They aren't. They're from a different place. They didn't even need to call it Hell, as far as I'm concerned. Just term it another dimension or something, and throw in some demonic imagery. But this? This is just stupid.
 
You read about genetic things all the time. Just look around and read about human genome, stem cell research, etc etc

You're right we can't directly relate to freakish experiments, but we can relate to the source of those experiments, the humane genome project.

Oh, and if id Software approves and gave the trailer a standing ovation, I approve :) I trust they won't let anyone f*ck up their creation, but understand changes need to be made to adapt it to the film world (we don't want Doom to be a major flop do we)
 
Meh. I don't see how the Hell theme would have resulted in a flop. And I'd argue that religion (and by consequence, Hell) is a major thing in life.

But I'm tired of arguing. :)
 
http://www.doommovie.com/

Website launched read story :D

IGN was telling us wrong!

It says "scientists have opened a door and hellish creatures of unknown origin lurk about"

So it doesn't specifically say "These creatures came from hell" but it certainly implies it! :)
 
I've seen/heard of so many bad films that use genetic manipulation as an excuse for the storyline...ever since Jurassic Park (I love that film) it's been the same. At least Hell's actually interesting. It's got a kick to it, you know? DEMONS FROM HELL! I mean, come on. That's pretty cool. Upside-down crucifixes, pillars of fire and human flesh and all that.
 
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