Firefox 4.0

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/firefox-4-beta-1-now-available-for-download/

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Whoa, Nelly! Is that a Firefox 4 download button we're looking at? Why yes... yes it is! We can't think of a much better way to wrap up one's workday than by finding out that Mozilla's own Firefox browser has finally made the official leap to 4.0, with Beta 1 going live for the adoring public today. It's ready to be sucked down and installed for those with Windows, Linux and OS X-based machines, and the changelog itself is far too lengthy for this space (though it's linked below for your perusal). You'll obviously notice an overhauled look hitting you front and center, with a new add-on manager, support for the new WebM format, improved privacy settings and crash protection headlining the "big chart o' features." Give 'er a download and toss your thoughts on the new build down in comments below, cool?

P.S. - Be warned that this may very well not work with your stable of add-ons right away, so we'd keep that stable 3.x.x build installed as a backup!
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anyone try it yet?? and geez it seems like 3.0 just came out!
 
Is it as good as chrome yet?



Ooooh, cutting. Downloading now, I suppose.
 
God damn copying Chrome's idea of tabs in the title bar. The whole style (buttons and shit) also looks just like Chrome now.
 
Do plugins for the current FF still work? If so, then I'll probably just leave chrome in the dust. I like it, but FF can do pretty much everything chrome can do with plugins, plus way more.

EDIT: Nevermind, the article says it might be unstable with current plugins. I'll be back when thats fixed. I'll still keep using chrome less and less though.
 
I dont like how the tabs are at the top like that, can anyone explain how to bring it down like 3.5??

EDIT: Also, where the hell is the stop button, it saves me everytime i accidentally click on a link, especially when loading a video or something.
EDIT again: "The stop and reload buttons have been merged into a single button on Windows, Mac and Linux."

Neat.
 
In chrome the go and stop are merged. Superior.
 
Just go to the firefox button > Customize > uncheck "Tabs on Top"

I hate the firefox button. Just get rid of it, or put the whole menu bar up there in that small size.
 
Meh, in IE, everything is superior. It also helps you build character and patience.
 
This is a beta. Wrong section. Already posted.

I want them to put the tabs all the way at the top, like in Chrome. That's the point so you can't go any higher, and you can flick at them very quickly without even making them your focal point. I close windows all the time in a flash, without looking or trying to aim because the X is in the top right corner. Get yourself a fast mouse.
Vegeta897 said:
In chrome the go and stop are merged. Superior.
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FF 4 has go, stop, refresh in one button. Look at the article..

Here is a good article, including screenshots.
http://www.techpavan.com/2009/07/28/firefox-4-screenshots-released-overview-firefox-version-40/

The tab location can optionally moved, BTW. FF = King.
 
The plugin page is ****ING HUGE, and so bloated for no reason. God damn.

The customizable UI is awesome though. I like that you can change the icons to words. Saves some vertical pixels. I agree with Virus though, the tabs should be all the way at the top. Its stupid that the top is reserved for that dumb orange firefox button.
 
For some reason i dont have a firefox button :S
 
My firefox is packed to the balls with plugins, don't think I could ever leave it behind :p
 
Uhh.. yeah. I just restarted, and I think I broke it. My FF button is gone, I don't see any way to get it back now. The about says its back on 3.6, yet all the UI customization I did is still working... plus I went directly into the version 4 beta folder in my Program Files and ran the exe from there.

Tabs are at bottom but theres no option in the menus to put them back on top...

I think the two versions are conflicting in some weird ways.
 
Why does mine look totally different from the screenshots? I dont have that firefox button, i have the old File-Edit-View etc. Also, this shit comes up randomly and wont go away unless i exit the tab
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Yeah, this shits all ****ed up. Its even broken my old Firefox.

EDIT: Nevermind. Apparently the UI customizations is in the old one too, just never knew about it. Anyways, I just uninstalled the beta. That was a short, annoying experience.

EDIT2: Wtf, its still messed up a bit it seems. I can't click any button in Gmail. Like the archive, report spam, delete buttons, none of them actually get clicked when I hit them. I can go into emails fine, but I cant "display all images" or anything either.
 
Krynn72 said:
Uhh.. yeah. I just restarted, and I think I broke it. My FF button is gone, I don't see any way to get it back now. The about says its back on 3.6, yet all the UI customization I did is still working... plus I went directly into the version 4 beta folder in my Program Files and ran the exe from there.

Tabs are at bottom but theres no option in the menus to put them back on top...

I think the two versions are conflicting in some weird ways.
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Yeah that happened to me one time and that's some bullshit. I was tempted to try this, but I'll wait until it's RC; thanks for taking one for the team.

I'm using FF 3.6x, but my FF has been customized thoroughly over the years and I don't want to tamper with it until my plugins will work on the new one.

I don't have a file menu bar either. For more vertical space in web pages, I hid it. You can unhide it with the Alt button.

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VirusType2 said:
I don't have a file menu bar either. For more vertical space in web pages, I hid it. You can unhide it with the Alt button.

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Well, you need a plugin for that, but yeah, I've got that on on my 3.6. Plus one that hides the toolbar menu with a custom hotkey.

EDIT: lol, the title bar still says Firefox 4.0.

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Krynn72 said:
Well, you need a plugin for that, but yeah, I've got that on on my 3.6. Plus one that hides the toolbar menu with a custom hotkey.
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You used to need a plugin for it. To my disappointment I found that the plugin I was using was no longer compatible with the version of FF that I was using.. then I found out it was a built-in feature now, and it worked better.

I don't know here, this might be it:
In Firefox 3.6 on Windows you can hide the menu bar via "View > Toolbars" or via the right click context menu on a toolbar.

Press and hold the Alt key down to bring up the menu bar.

Go to "View > Toolbars" or right-click the menu bar or press Alt+V T to select which toolbars to show or hide.
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So you can hide any of these.

EDIT:

I don't use bookmarks or the bookmarks toolbar either. I use a plugin called speed dial and just put my favorite sites there. Opening a new tab opens speed dial.

I don't use the status bar either (at the bottom of the screen). For any plugins that have status bar buttons or indicators, I moved them to the toolbar at the top of the screen:

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So, I use a plugin that shows any links [you hover over] as a tooltip instead of at the bottom of the screen in the status bar.
 
I'm still running an old version of FF, 3.0 doesn't support my theme.
 
I'm liking the 800 bytes a second download.
 
does the new version keep all your bookmarks?? also does that speed dial program work well?? I have tons of bookmarks!
 
It should keep your bookmarks. If not, Xmarks.
 
Warped said:
I don't use the status bar either (at the bottom of the screen). For any plugins that have status bar buttons or indicators, I moved them to the toolbar at the top of the screen:
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How do you get rid of the status bar?

Warped said:
does the new version keep all your bookmarks?? also does that speed dial program work well?? I have tons of bookmarks!
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It keeps you bookmarks just fine. Don't know what "that speed dial program" is so I can't vouch for that.
 
Krynn72 said:
EDIT: lol, the title bar still says Firefox 4.0.

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Well, you're replying in this thread that's titled Firefox 4.0, the title bar is just repeating the tab name, which happens to be the thread title. Check out what happens with the rest of your tabs sometime. :p
 
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Man this new Firefox has some rad skins, check it out, mine looks just like Chrome!
 
I'm mad at you KA.

You're a filthy traitor for even trying this.
 
Krynn72 said:
How do you get rid of the status bar?



It keeps you bookmarks just fine. Don't know what "that speed dial program" is so I can't vouch for that.
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click on view, then Status Bar

also I do not recall saying this before, lol
 
Yeah he quoted me and put your name there. LOL"D

But thank you for answering for me.

EDIT: The only thing I haven't found a way to move to the top is the little encrypted page padlock icon.

Also, the delay on the hover link feature is about 1 or 2 seconds, so I want to look in to reducing the tooltip time to instant. I am thinking this isn't using a global windows timer but on FF's own timer.
 
Well he still tried it judging by his first post.
 
The orange button is placed awkwardly, wastes a lot of vertical space for absolutely no reason. I like the look of that orange button, but why not do it like Office 2010?

Also, I hate the Aero Peek feature of this browser, just like I hate it in IE. It just doesn't work when you have 30 tabs open. I don't want to have to click once to bring up the preview, find my tab, click again. Now, I just click the icon and I'm back where I left off. I guess I gotta train my alt+tab reflex.
 
You know there's a feedback feature. I'd like to be a part of it but I'm waiting for the RC before messing with this.

I think the tabs should touch the top of the screen so the mouse cannot overshoot them. Also that would give more vertical space.

They should try to make it as thin as absolutely possible, especially with the proliferation of 16:9 monitors.
 
The menu button(Beta 3) looks very distracting coming from Chrome. I compared the two browsers and I see that both take up pretty much the same amount of space, maybe something like a centimeter actually. But still you have this large orange button right in your face, whether fullscreen or not, and for what? Besides "print" that menu is useless at being there. Would have rather prefered it to be where it is in chrome, and just neatly tucked in near the other icon in the address bar area. I mean, how often do we really need to access the menu for the button to be that easily apparent for us? And what is the first option, "New Window"? How often, or even how many people, actually create new windows instead of new tabs in a tabbed browser?

I understand that there are probably a number of people that do so for what ever reason, but is it really something you need to have as the first listing in a brightly visible menu button.

But other than that, I have not been seeing much difference with Firefox ever since the "big jump" from 1.5 to 2.0. Since then it has just been "security and bug fixes", not much else. Sure we have had that acid 2 and acid 3 test craze, but besides passing that test most of the time you rarely actually saw any benefit outside those tests, as most other website just displayed the same way as they always have.

So 4.0 is the same way I felt about 3.x.x, just meh. That is one of the reasons I went with Chrome a while ago, just because it actually offered something new and refreshing. Thought I must mention that I am not a web developer, just a viewer, so maybe that has something to do with it. But from my experience, I just got bored of Firefox's boring development.
 
Cancer said:
I just got bored of Firefox's boring development.
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Same here. Switched to
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about 2 years ago, haven't looked back since. Seems like FF is past its prime.
 
Right... Chrome needs a ton of work; last time I tried it, I found and submitted like 10 bug reports in 10 minutes and then wiped it from my HDD. Most of those bugs were present more than a year before, when I reported them then.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20009387-264.html

July 1, 2010
Firefox has become the default browser for nearly 400,000 IBM employees, a big coup for the open-source project during a time of increasing browser competition.

"All IBM employees will be asked to use it as their default browser," Bob Sutor, vice president of open source and Linux at IBM's Software Group, said in a blog post Thursday. "Firefox is enterprise-ready, and we're ready to adopt it for our enterprise."

Mozilla has said in recent weeks it believes nearly 400 million people use its software.
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Firefox is king.
 
Well gee, if IBM uses it :rolleyes:

63 said:
Same here. Switched to
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about 2 years ago, haven't looked back since. Seems like FF is past its prime.
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For once you endorse something I can agree with.
 
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