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What kind of bandwidth does this consume? I live in a house and share internet with 4 people, and we have pretty good speed but I don't want to choke the network due to high upload rate or something. Is there some way I can monitor bandwidth usage? <10 or 20 kbps upload would be fine.
 
I got to 9960400/10000000 and it said there was an error.

Also, my GPU ran at 83deg the whole time, and stopped reporting its temperature towards the end.

:(
 
I think I read in the other thread that it just downloads all the data it needs to do the work at once before you start folding, and when the work unit is done, it uploads it all at once, so you're not constantly using bandwidth for it.

Unless I just dreamed about reading that last night, which is possible because I was wicked tired and had lots on my mind when I went to bed.

@Kazsymonds, that seems pretty hot for it to be running for hours on end. Mines been at a steady 67ish, but I still have like 4 hours to go before its done.
 
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Cheerio, FAH.

@Krynn, do you have ATI overdrive? Mine's an Asus card, so maybe it's overclocked.
 
@kazsymonds

Hmm, that seems a little hot to say the least. Are you on the latest ATi drivers?

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

Also might be worth checking to see if your GPU requires a BIOS update? (Check your GPU vendors site) Asus here: -

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

Updating your GPU BIOS can seen daunting, so I'd only advise it if the bios notes specifically recommend it.


@Ennui

No, it downloads an initial file (less than 10mb) then processes it and then returns the results when it's done. It's not bandwidth intensive.
 
If your video card is overheating chances are your heatsink is completely covered in dust on the inside. Probably needs a cleaning.
 
No Limit said:
If your video card is overheating chances are your heatsink is completely covered in dust on the inside. Probably needs a cleaning.
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It's not overheating, 83 is fairly reasonable for a modern GPU under load isn't it?

I got new drivers, maybe that will help (and could be the reason it stopped reporting to hardware monitor).

When F@H gave me that last message about my GPU not being supported or needed drivers, I went to windows update and got them there. I've since gone straight to ATI to get better ones lmao

I'll try folding one more dude. If it goes near 83 again, I'm stacking this.
 
I'd say 83 is too high tbh dude. I just installed GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1921/TechPowerUp_GPU-Z_v0.5.0.html) and my folding temperature on my 460GTX is around 63-64 degrees, with the fan running at 49-50% capacity. It's probably worth establishing what your cards ambient temperature is in the first place (mine's around 35 degrees, though I have a well ventilated case). It might well be that your case could do with a bit more ventilation overall, as well as giving it a good dust out (it's generally a good idea to clear out the dust bunnies from your case & cpu & gpu fans every month or so imho).

See whether that makes a difference. Also generally it's far better to get your GPU drivers from the manufacturers website than using windows update I find.


also I see a few new names on the team list:-

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=96276

later on they'll show up on the extreme list (which is more comprehensive): -

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=96276

GJ ppls
 
What's the average time for you guys making a fold? I started it and once I realized it'd take 8-9 hours I stopped.
 
Raziaar said:
What's the average time for you guys making a fold? I started it and once I realized it'd take 8-9 hours I stopped.
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What's your GPU dude?

My 460GTX averages a fold in about 3 hours (Glenns got the same GFX card I believe).
 
Kadayi said:
What's your GPU dude?

My 460GTX averages a fold in about 3 hours (Glenns got the same GFX card I believe).
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I also have a GTX 460 and every fold so far (2 completed) has clocked in around 3 hours as well, give or take 30 minutes.

GPU has been running at a cool 59C the whole time too :D
 
I'll fire that thing back up. Since I redid my water cooling system, I don't have to worry about the pipes freezing, which is why I ran it previously. If you run FAHMON, it'll give you time estimates for how long it'll take to complete the unit as well as point you in the direction of the protein you're folding. One I worked on some time ago was the protein structure of the opening on the ribosome through which RNA strands passed.
 
Mines taking a long time as well. I had this current one going for about an hour before making my previous post in this thread, and its just now under 30 minutes left. That is, unless it started a new one, but it looks the same.

EDIT: The site says I have a work unit done, so I guess it did finish one already. Working alright then.
 
Cool. starting to see people appearing on the team table now: -

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=96276

Needless to say everyones average will increase over time, and we should start to see us move up on the team overtake table: -

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=96276

Much like real physics space combat it's a slow process :rolleyes:, so patience is required, but after a while you'll all be zen spiders. ;)

Our present target is 1.5 weeks away, but it's likely we will drop a few place yet before everyones efforts start to bear fruit. :afro:
 
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Unfortunately, my case doesn't allow too much room to maneuver. I'm going to move that HDD to see if that makes a difference, and check my fans are actually set up in a push / pull, front > back configuration, and not just chucked in there (reasonably sure I wouldn't have done that...)

EDIT: Fans were set up correctly, HDD is moved down a slot to give more air room. Does anyone have any experience of using the catalyst control centre? It's ****ing terrible. I enabled manual fan control and set it to 100, sounded like a helicopter in my room! Temps went down to mid 50s whilst folding though!

I guess this is going to be a trade off between noise and GPU temp, but since it was on auto control, I guess my GPU is more than happy at 83deg. Not sure I'm happy with it there though...
 
Case looks pretty clean overall, I notice that where the gfx card is you are missing a couple of AGP slot case seals below. If you didn't take them out just now, I'd recommend putting them back in. A fully sealed case is better for airflow. Might be worth just running some general temperature tests to see what your ambient GPU heat is also.
 
kazsymonds said:
EDIT: Fans were set up correctly, HDD is moved down a slot to give more air room. Does anyone have any experience of using the catalyst control centre? It's ****ing terrible. I enabled manual fan control and set it to 100, sounded like a helicopter in my room! Temps went down to mid 50s whilst folding though!

I guess this is going to be a trade off between noise and GPU temp, but since it was on auto control, I guess my GPU is more than happy at 83deg. Not sure I'm happy with it there though...
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Sadly not a catalyst expert I'm afraid. You probably want the fan running so your folding temp is about 70 degrees max. See how that fits in terms of noise.

I'd check out your overall ambient heat levels in your machine. I use speccy (from the same dudes behind the awesome ccleaner & defraggler)

http://www.piriform.com/speccy

to assess my general temperatures.

and I use GPU-Z for the GFX card: -

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1921/TechPowerUp_GPU-Z_v0.5.0.html

If your machine is running quite hot overall (games are more intensive than folding), it might be worth considering getting a more ventilated case at some point. I have a coolermaster 690 which puts the PSU at the bottom and extracts through the top: -

http://www.coolermaster.co.uk/product.php?category_id=19&product_id=2908

It's pretty decent, though I'm sure others can advise on cases. I wouldn't go that far just for folding though.
 
Sorry Kadayi, I'm already folding for another team. :3

Best wishes to HL2.net though, it's all for a good cause
 
Looks like the GPU version can be buggy if you use remote desktop as I do (under windows 7). I think that's because remote desktop disables the video card when you log on. So that's kind of crappy, means I can't really use the GPU version which is way faster.
 
No Limit said:
Looks like the GPU version can be buggy if you use remote desktop as I do (under windows 7). I think that's because remote desktop disables the video card when you log on. So that's kind of crappy, means I can't really use the GPU version which is way faster.
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It works for me mate, although that may be the root of some of my problems.

Also, I didn't start the process in remote desktop, I started it as a normal user and then switched to remote.
 
kazsymonds said:
It works for me mate, although that may be the root of some of my problems.

Also, I didn't start the process in remote desktop, I started it as a normal user and then switched to remote.
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Thats what I did, and got the same error as you did actually.
 
Krynn is ahead of me for no reason in particular. This will not stand!
 
Nice to see so many people joining up. We should start to see some gains in terms of ranking in the next week or so. ;)
 
Kadayi said:
Did you install the 6.23 client or the 6.32 by mistake Krynn?

Uninstall the application (also delete user/your name/app data/roaming/Folding@home-gpu or Folding@home-cpu if it's there) and get the Windows: V6 GPU2 6.23 client (second one down) from here: -

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther

you'll need to enter your name & the team number (96276) again.

Any problems, you can zap me on Steam: Kadayi
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Okay... my problem was that installed the 6.32 client instead of 6.23 by accident. Whoops... sorry.

However, my time doesn't seem to have changed. I seem to be doing faster work, since my protein image thing is a lot more complicated, but I don't know.

Right when I switch into the graphics thing it says like... 2 or 3 minutes left... then it switches and says 10 hours. Right when I open it, it also says it's going at thousands of work units per second. I don't know if that display is that graphically intensive that it's pulling so much away from the GPU cycles.

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Yeah, looks like remote desktop messes up the GPU version. It did the same thing on my work machine.
 
Raziaar said:
Okay... my problem was that installed the 6.32 client instead of 6.23 by accident. Whoops... sorry.

However, my time doesn't seem to have changed. I seem to be doing faster work, since my protein image thing is a lot more complicated, but I don't know.

Right when I switch into the graphics thing it says like... 2 or 3 minutes left... then it switches and says 10 hours. Right when I open it, it also says it's going at thousands of work units per second. I don't know if that display is that graphically intensive that it's pulling so much away from the GPU cycles.
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Seems normal to me. I think the display just has to refresh. 10 hours seems reasonable. The two I've had were both around 6 hours.

The only problem I've noticed is that my name doesn't show up. It was anonymous for a while but then I realized it and changed it, but I don't show up and the Anonymous froze too. I guess they just don't like me... oh well.

edit: nevermind I showed up
 
StarBob said:
Seems normal to me. I think the display just has to refresh. 10 hours seems reasonable. The two I've had were both around 6 hours.

The only problem I've noticed is that my name doesn't show up. It was anonymous for a while but then I realized it and changed it, but I don't show up and the Anonymous froze too. I guess they just don't like me... oh well.

edit: nevermind I showed up
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Do the people posting 3-4 hour times really have better GPU's than me?

The GPU client at 10 hours is taking more time for me than the CPU client at 8 hours.


Also is there any way to use multiple cores? My machine is only using one core for folding.
 
I dunno I noticed yours was only 10 million units and mine is 50 million so... maybe you just suck. I honestly have no idea. Seems the Nvidia and ATI ones are slightly different too. I have Nvidia at work but I haven't tried it at home where I have ATI.
 
My time is still ~3-3.5 hours per WU and it's been pretty consistent. It says my performance is roughly 750ns/day, whatever units those are.

Since me, Kayadi and Glenn all get similar folding speeds and points and we all have 1GB GTX260s I imagine it IS just that our GPUs are better than yours Raz. It also seems that Nvidia's architecture is more supported and thus works better than ATI architecture.

Are you using the GPU3 or GPU2 client? Maybe try switching to GPU2 if you are on GPU3 and see if that does anything? Or fold with your CPU for a while instead (if you run it with -smp you can use many cores).

I'll be in the top 20 on the folding team by the end of the day. not bad for someone only folding for a week :D i have to admit i've gotten a little over excited about checking the user list and seeing my progress.
 
Nah, Raz's GPU shouldnt be taking 10 hours, but his symptoms are the same as mine. Whenever I have the display focused in Windows, it drops its speed to real slow for some reason. Raz, if you put your web browser to half your screen, and the FAH display at the other, you can that when your browser is the focus the iter/sec skyrockets and it should only take like 5ish hours. I don't get why, but it happens to me too.
 
You guys make me sad. I can't see myself doing this long if I have to run it at 8-10 hours to get a single unit done.

EDIT: Nah Krynn... doesn't seem to do that for me.

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Guys it's not actually necessary to have the display going (albeit the ATI one is kind of funky tbh, some kind of world domination vibe going on there in the background ). Generally I just leave it as a tray icon whilst I get on with the important things in life, like arguing on forums, looking at daft cats and adding to my huge goat pron collection etc (with occasional bouts of gaming in between). Just leave the sucker down in the bottom right corner to do his thing ok, chillax. ;)
 
I was going to say, I only have the display open on moments I want to prompt people to ask me wtf it is. Although it doesn't seem to impact performance whether the display is open or not. The Nvidia based client display doesn't look as cool as the ATI one though :O
 
Kadayi said:
Guys it's not actually necessary to have the display going (albeit the ATI one is kind of funky tbh, some kind of world domination vibe going on there in the background ). Generally I just leave it as a tray icon whilst I get on with the important things in life, like arguing on forums, looking at daft cats and adding to my huge goat pron collection etc (with occasional bouts of gaming in between). Just leave the sucker down in the bottom right corner to do his thing ok, chillax. ;)
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What I'm basically saying is that it doesn't change my speed and it's still crappy. :(

I finished one unit. I started at like 8 in the morning and it's now 2PM
 
Raziaar said:
What I'm basically saying is that it doesn't change my speed and it's still crappy. :(

I finished one unit. I started at like 8 in the morning and it's now 2PM
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Raz, unfortunately as Ennui stated earlier on sadly the Ati GPUs don't fold as fast as the Nvidia ones due to the card architecture (this has been the case for quite some time I'm afraid..Ati still kick ass in all other respects though). However slow as it appears it's still a lot faster than CPU folding ( ithink it used to take me over 24 hours to fold 1 unit with my CPU). However the speed or frequency with which people fold isn't the main point. I can understand obviously it's annoying this early on to see others leaping up a head of you (I have no real chance of ever catching Asus, tbh so I quit worrying about thst and just try and get as much done as I can), but rising up the team member ladder is secondary towards us moving the team up the Leader board which everyone is contributing to. Our daily average fold was about 12k prior to my post, now we are upto around 27k, which is fantastic news, and we've stopped backsliding and are looking to start gaining in the next week or so. Stick with it.

In a week or so Bovine University (in combination with Hl2.net) is about to trump University of Saskatchewan (**** those guys). What could be better than that ;)

Also the ATi folding client is way better looking than the Nvidia one: -



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Yours looks like it's some evil geniuses plot being revealed to James Bond (with some slinky Vixens nearby), where as ours looks like it's a close up of a car radiator or something....
 
^ Just a heads up, the image link I clicked in your post has a porn pop up. Which might be a problem for some people that are at work.
 
No Limit said:
^ Just a heads up, the image link I clicked in your post has a porn pop up. Which might be a problem for some people that are at work.
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Pfft. It should of been set to family safe. Crappy imagevenue...

Updated post ;)
 
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