Absinthe
The Freeman
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stemot said:
Not at all. I've listened to enough of their music to form an opinion of them. What, am I supposed to buy every album when the chances of me not liking them are high. You're a genius. A real bloody genius.
Hey, Stemot. Think of every band you don't like. Have you listened through all of their music?
Yes, because making an exaggeration of their behavior is "slagging", am i rite?
The only think I've argued over with you is the concept of popularity = quality, which I disagree with. Oasis is really only used as an example for the sake of discussion. But you construed that as insulting. The most I ever said against them was that I think they're assholes, and you've agreed with that. So tell me, what are you getting so pissy over?
Oh no, they definitely do care. I wonder how they'd fair if they weren't coasting on the luxuries afforded by being celebrities. I wonder if their whole "telling it like it is" machismo bullshit would come out if they weren't wallowing in money. The only reason they can afford to seem like apathetic assholes is because they have nothing to lose. That's hardly strength in character.
But let's define "arrogant".
Arrogant (adj): Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.
What you do describe is a product of their over-inflated egos. They are noisy prima donnas that throw fits when shit doesn't go their way. Half of the time, they're busy having cock-measuring contests with other musicians, if not among themselves. That strikes me as obnoxious and irritating. They think far too much of themselves. This isn't a case of them not bending to the will of industry execs. This is a case of stupid bravado brought on by them having their heads up their asses.
Sorry for not having numbers to back that up.
Since this is just your word against mine, I'm not pursuing it further. But you can continue to act like a twat, if you wish.
I never said that. Of course, you twisted my words to make it seem that way. Good job.
If you deny that such people on the planet exist, then you are the disillusioned one, my friend.
Jackpot. And then they patiently await said band to capture the quality of that album. This isn't rocket science.
...So what does an artist do without fans? And yeah, thirteen years in existence is something I couldn't care about. It's not just the fact that there are plenty of artists that have been around longer. It's the fact that nobody should give a shit. 8 years, 10 years, 12 years, 14 years... who cares?
Give me a break. Hype for Oasis is still alive and well, and you're lying to yourself if you say otherwise. It's the same kind of shit that happens when U2 releases a damn album.
You're not making any sense. Non-Oasis fans are putting it up to #1? It's shit and people like it? The publications are lying? Oasis fans are lying? What's your point. Coherency, bitte.
What?
Great. But that does not objectively place them on some pedastal above everybody else.
No, not really. If you think about it, it's not far-fetched. And judging from most of the Oasis fans I've met and their increasingly negative view of the band, I'd say that most of their money is coming from zealous Oasis consumers.
No, I just can't like their work, both in part because I dislike the band and because I don't care too much for most of their music. The comment about Liam's cock in your mouth just seemed so apt because you're like a rabid dog that wants to defend Oasis on every ****ing count (this thread being proof).
And yeah, how do people fairly evaluate an album on the day it comes out? They can't. This only serves to support the idea that people are buying the albums because of who they're coming from rather than what they consist of.
And my point still stands. Do the Pop princes and princesses stand on equal footing with Oasis when they get sold-out shows, No. 1 ranked albums in the charts, and put on impressive shows?
Nothing else you've mentioned can be displayed in a competent quantitative form that establishes a clear link to band quality.
Get over what? I'm fine with them being considered the top UK band of the decade. I'm fine with them being more successful than Radiohead. You know why? Because I really couldn't give a shit about such pretentious titles. I don't care if your friends learned to like Oasis because, well... I'm not one of your friends, nor are many people across the world who would side with me on this one.
I said they were arrogant assholes and you pretty much agreed with me. Nice straw man, Stemot. You tard.
