Fox news is crazy

[Kadayi]

The bit where they claimed Ron Paul's numbers were derived from false votes was just mind boggling...

 

[clarky003]

Right now they are trying to get Ron Paul kicked out of the party, and future debates.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

such diseases do not actually affect anyone's ability to do well, be happy, or make massive contributions to human civilisation.

"Do well" and "be happy" are moral arguements and the fact that they may do those things is what makes Eugenics legilsation immoral.

"Massive contributions" is a logical one, the fact is a huge majority of them WON'T make them and are really a drain on society in terms of resources. Trust me I know they can and some do, but I'm talking % wise etc.

But that's looking at it from a purely statistical/logical point of view. I definately don't think mentally retarded babies should be killed and such. It's just an example of "logical legislation" being "wrong."

Logic is cold and calculated. Everything in life and law shouldn't be cold and calculated- only when it should be.

 

[CptStern]

"Do well" and "be happy" are moral arguements and the fact that they may do those things is what makes Eugenics legilsation immoral.

"Massive contributions" is a logical one, the fact is a huge majority of them WON'T make them and are really a drain on society in terms of resources. Trust me I know they can and some do, but I'm talking % wise etc.

But that's looking at it from a purely statistical/logical point of view. I definately don't think mentally retarded babies should be killed and such. It's just an example of "logical legislation" being "wrong."

Logic is cold and calculated. Everything in life and law shouldn't be cold and calculated- only when it should be.

the majority of the population contributes nothing in the grand scheme of things ..in fact each and every single one of them leaves a huge footprint in terms of consumed resources that they truely are a drain to society ..then there's the religious, the conservative, the militaristic, the hopelessly stupid etc ..put them in a giant blender and serve them in a nice ice cold beverage that way they'll actually be worth something to someone somewhere .....see how I can take yur logic and extend it to be something rediculous? just because the mentally handicapped dont flip burgers at a mcdonalds doesnt mean they cant contribute to society not all contributions have to be in the scale of the polio vaccine or the invention of the lightbulb ..if that were true we only need keep a handful of people alive to function as a society, all others are flotsam to be disposed of...ok this is the last I want to hear any of you discuss the mentally handicapped as not fit to live ...unless you have extensive experience with all types of people who are mentally handicapped stfu

 

[Gray Fox]

Logic isn't some universal constant who's effectiveness and value you can prove and disprove. The only thing you can attack or support are specific kinds of logics and line of thoughts.

Peoples attacks on logic in general seem to come from a desire to excuse their own irrational thoughts, and prevent them from being subjected to rational scrutiny. Which ironically enough is a line of logic in itself.

 

[Operational]

Logic doesn't have to be cold. There are philosophical arguments for morals and ethics and philosophy is based on logical arguments.

 

[PvtRyan]

It's logic/rational to value emotions and know where they belong and where they don't. It's not rational to kill retarded babies because, even if it doesn't go for you, it makes others unhappy. No person has an absolute value, and there certainly isn't an absolute value based on how much you contributed to society. Value of someone or something is completely relative. The value of something is the value someone attaches to it, and someone probably really values that retarded baby who might end up "not contributing anything to society" (and I have no idea how you would quantify that). It's not rational to make people unhappy if you have a sense of empathy.

 

[Kadayi]

Why is it such an outragious claim that the 9/11 attacks were done out of backlash due to our bombing of iraq in previous years? That sounds like a reasonable explanation to me...

Ron Paul needed to really turn that Question around and make his attackers hypothesise as to why 9/11 happened tbh. I'd of loved to hear all their illogical reasons as to why it happened. Also did IQs suddenly drop or were they still trying to lay the blame at Osama Bin Ladens door? Do none of these Mooks actually check the FBIs most wanted list? He's wanted for a number of Crimes..but 9/11 isn't one of them officially:-

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

If Giuliani pulls the 911 card one more time im gonna barf.

Whenever he spoke I just pictured him climbing up a series of steps to the white house made up of the 9/11 victims with a big pedo grin on his face.:frown:

 

[Tyguy]

Logic is either a thought of whats right, or the thought of what people over 2 hundred years ago said was right, same people who owned slaves, beat their wives, all the while pretending to act like the country was perfect. I guess what im saying is logic is solely Dependant on mitigating factors.

 

[clarky003]

Ron Paul needed to really turn that Question around and make his attackers hypothesise as to why 9/11 happened tbh. I'd of loved to hear all their illogical reasons as to why it happened. Also did IQs suddenly drop or were they still trying to lay the blame at Osama Bin Ladens door? Do none of these Mooks actually check the FBIs most wanted list? He's wanted for a number of Crimes..but 9/11 isn't one of them officially:-

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm



Whenever he spoke I just pictured him climbing up a series of steps to the white house made up of the 9/11 victims with a big pedo grin on his face.:frown:

Well believe it or not the FBI have said exactley that because they don't have any evidence that Bin Laden or his group was involved. None that would hold up in a court of law anyway. It was all hearsay by the Bush admin, mostof the terrorists like Mohammed Atta were also into drinking, eating meat, and going to strip joints, and were apparently trained at US military bases. Certainly sounds like a fanatical muslim that wanted to commit suicide to me!

 

[Sidewinder]

Well believe it or not the FBI have said exactley that because they don't have any evidence that Bin Laden or his group was involved. None that would hold up in a court of law anyway. It was all hearsay by the Bush admin, mostof the terrorists like Mohammed Atta were also into drinking, eating meat, and going to strip joints, and were apparently trained at US military bases. Certainly sounds like a fanatical muslim that wanted to commit suicide to me!

give me a good source for crack pot theory's,clarky you really sicken me.

 

[Kadayi]

Well believe it or not the FBI have said exactly that because they don't have any evidence that Bin Laden or his group was involved. None that would hold up in a court of law anyway.

Oh I know, I just find it bizarre that the repetition of the lie by the republicans though the media has been so great that now people just naturally assume there is a definite link, even though no government body will actually confirm this link exists (not even X numbers of years later).

They tried the same BS with the Iraq WMDs, but I think people were a little bit more sceptical on that front, mainly because of the outrageous claims regarding the world threat Iraq posed.

 

[clarky003]

give me a good source for crack pot theory's,clarky you really sicken me.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/...1beforepinkpony&scale=0#a091101beforepinkpony

It was the Pink Pony strip joint in Florida that they went too on the Eve of 911, it's well documented not a 'crack pot' theory.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1093694,00.html

and from Daniel Hopsicker's book Welcome to Terrorland..

1. In Venice Florida, Mohamed Atta lived for two months with an American stripper/lingerie model named Amanda Keller.

2. Atta loved to party. He was out with Keller nearly every night they were together. He was a heavy drinker, snorted coke, was a stylish dresser and wore expensive jewelry.

3. According to Keller, Atta loved pork chops.

4. Keller dumped him after he embarrassed her at a night club by dancing, poorly, atop a speaker ("doing that old 'Roxbury head bob' thing, you know"?)

5. Atta revenged himself later on Keller by returning to the apartment they’d shared and killing her cat and kittens, disemboweling and dismembering them in her apartment for her to find.

6. In Miami, Atta consorted with women known to be linked to the Mafia.

7. Atta’s email list included names of people who worked for defense contractors. One, for instance, worked for Canadian firm Virtual Prototypes, which helped develop the avionics for F-15, F-22 and B-2.

8. Atta was enrolled as a student at the International Officer’s School of Maxwell Airforce Base, and witnesses recall him having been introduced around at an officers' club party.

9. Atta was fluent in at least Arabic, English, German, French and Hebrew.

10. One day when Atta was rummaging through his flight bag, Keller got a look inside. Her words:

"The thing the FBI was most interested in was his pilot bag. They asked about it a lot. He kept it locked, and they wanted to know whether I had ever seen anything in it. I told them yes. One day he opened it briefly, and there were a lot of papers in it, and there was a blue log book in a different language. Mohamed was fluent in almost any language you can think of. He had a kind of Daytimer in there, too. And a folder with all these different ID’s in it. And that’s when I saw one – because it fell out – a little blue and white thing the size of a driver’s license. It had his picture on it, and it looked like a mug shot, or a prison shot. And it didn’t look like him, and I asked him, 'Who is this?'

"And he said, 'that’s me.' He told me it had been taken back when he was in some kind of militia-type deal, like a military-type deal, he said. He compared it to our military only they teach you different tactics. He didn’t elaborate.

"He didn’t say where it was from, either. But the writing looked like a cross between Hebrew and Arabic, those frilly little lines. He told me he spoke Hebrew. I said bullshit. So he started speaking it, and I guess he did.

"He told me that he went to different countries and studied. He had pilot’s license from several different countries. But all the pictures looked different. All the names were different. He had a license to fly from just about every country he had been to. He went to pilot’s school in all these countries."

11. Atta, Keller, a stripper named Linda and two Germans, Peter and Johan, partied for three days in Key West. Atta paid for everything. Rented three rooms, one just for the men’s luggage, which Keller says contained drugs. The men had a business meeting the women were not permitted to attend. Met with people, Keller says, who flew in just to meet Atta. Somber and quiet after meeting. (Key West Airport a known drug transit point. The Sheriff used to be under orders to keep the dope sniffing dogs off airplanes, and at one time even sent patrol cars to escort the drugs to Miami.)

12. Atta was already a licensed pilot when he arrived in the US. Licenses from many different countries. He had the privileges of an instructor while he was at Huffman Aviation, and may have helped pilot South American drug runs.

13. The FBI timeline says Atta left Venice Florida in December 2000 after completing his flight training. But he didn’t. Dozens of locals say different – his landlord, neighbours, cab drivers, restaurant employees and his girlfriend, for a few instances – and have been told not to talk about it by federal authorities. The FBI publicly sought information regarding Atta’s time in various US locations, but not Venice Florida, where he spent most of his time in the US. Why the intentional misdirection? What are they trying to keep hidden?

14. Under pressure from the FBI, and despite numerous witnesses who had known them together, Keller publicly retracted her story of having lived with Atta, saying he’d been another hijacker named Mohammed, no last name, who seems to have only existed to get Atta out of this story that didn’t fit the official version.

15. Six nights before the attack, at a bar called Shuckums in Ft Lauderdale, Atta and two companions got drunk. The FBI showed up at the bar just 12 hours after the attack with pictures of two of them, one Atta, saying only “they were on the plane and passed away.” Manager Tony Amos and bartender Patricia Idrissi identified both. Manager Amos said they’d gotten "wasted," Atta drank Stoli vodka for three straight hours. Atta blasphemed: "F*ck God!" he’s said to have cursed.

16. The witnesses then retracted the story of Atta being drunk. They now said he’d only drank cranberry juice the entire evening. Both Amos and Idrissi have gone, no one knows where, but the current bartender says she believes their leaving was somehow 9/11 related.

17. Fourteen of the 9/11 hijackers made Florida their base of operation, and clustered around two flight schools. What is it about Florida, and these flight schools, that drew them?

18. Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi paid $28,000 each to Rudi Dekkers’ Huffman Aviation for flight instruction that, the chief instructor of a neighbouring school said, was available at dozens of other nearby locations for a fraction of the price. Why did they pay an inflated price to Dekkers?

19. Dekkers’ and his financier, Wally Hilliard, purchased the flight school just months before Atta and the other hijackers began arriving. Before their purchase, the flight school catered to largely American students. After, student body became 80% foreign, mostly Middle Eastern. Yeslam bin Laden, Osama’s brother, sent students there for his business.

20. Atta also "trained" for a time at Arne Kruithof's Florida Flight Training Center, a block away from Huffman Aviation. Amanda Keller says it is where he would go to replenish his cocaine stash.

21. Though Dutchmen Dekkers and Kruithof claimed they had not known each other before each coincidently purchased flight training schools in Venice shortly before terrorists began arriving for training, witnesses claim the two had known each other well for years before.

22. Wally Hilliard is a supposedly-retired, born again insurance executive from the Midwest (motto for his insurance company had been "Hate Sin, Fight Communism, Back the Pack!"), who upon arriving in Florida entered into aviation businesses with an assortment of criminal and covert intelligence elements.

23. Dekkers and Hilliard had not been in the flight school business before they made the purchase. They paid an inflated price for the school, and did no due diligence before the purchase. They lost millions, but this was apparently not a problem. Charlie Voss, former employee of Dekkers and an Iran/Contra pilot who’d also flown "Northern Alliance guys" in Afghanistan in the 1980s, and who had given Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi a place to stay for a few weeks when they first arrived in Venice Florida: "Rudi’s greedy, and when you’re greedy you can be used for something.... When something doesn’t make obvious business sense, sometimes it’s because things are being done for another reason that doesn’t have a lot to do with dollars and cents. His business did not add up."

24. Dekkers went from broke to flush very quickly, without having business success with the flight school. One observer said “He didn’t even have the money to buy gas for an airplane… and yet a year later he shows up and plops a million seven, a million eight or two million dollars on the table as if it were paper money.”

25. The deputy in charge of Venice Fl airport security: "Wally and Rudi never talk inside a building, they go out to an airplane and talk inside the plane."

26. Dekkers’ claimed he had very little interaction with Atta, and that he never saw him again after December 2000. But numerous witnesses in Venice claim Dekkers and Atta were close, and were seen at a restaurant together just two weeks before the attack.

27. Hilliard denied knowing Atta. Keller recalled, on a visit to the airport, having Hilliard ask her, "What’s a nice girl like you doing with a guy like Mohamed?"

28. Before the attack, Dekkers was having trouble paying rent on flight school. It was so bad, it was a story in the Venice paper when he paid rent. One month before attack, he stopped having trouble. Since attack, every aviation concern at Venice airport has been late at least once with their monthly rent, except for Dekkers’.

29. Both the DEA and US Customs had been interested in Dekkers as far back as 1993. He was suspected of smuggling drugs and computer chips.

30. Less than three weeks after Atta and Marwan Al-Shehi began flying lessons at Huffman Aviation, a Lear jet owned by its financier, Wally Hilliard, carrying 43 pounds of heroin was seized by the DEA. Authorities called it the biggest seizure of heroin ever in central Florida.

31. The passengers, Venezuelan nationals, were arrested, but the pilot wasn’t charged, said a DEA spokesman, "because of lack of evidence." This, despite the fact the pilot, Diego Levine-Texar, ignored agents demands that he drop his cell phone, which had to be pried from his hand at gunpoint. Affidavit of the DEA agent: "Based on my experience I know that narcotics traffickers maintain frequent contact with one another while transporting narcotics… I believe Levine-Texar attempted to contact other accomplices as to the presence of agents and other law enforcement officials." Information about Levine-Texar is considered "sensitive."

32. But the DEA refused to return the plane to Hilliard. It was auctioned off. DEA said they had "reasons." Unusual for a so-called "innocent man" to be denied the return of his possession, or compensation.

33. After Hilliard lost his plane to the DEA auction, he was loaned a plane worth $2 million for just one dollar by Truman Arnold, former chief fundraiser for the Democratic Party, who figured in the Whitewater investigation.

34. John Villada, an aviation executive in Naples Florida: "After Wally’s plane was impounded with the heroin and his pilots had machine guns stuck in their faces, the DEA came to visit our maintenance facility and Wally shouted out to me – right in front of the DEA guy – 'Make sure all the heroin and cocaine gets hidden!'" Hilliard's mock warning seemed to show the DEA how little he thought of them, and how well he was protected.

35. The paperwork showed the same plane had made approximately 30 weekly round trips to Venezuela with the same passengers, and they always paid cash. “They obviously weren’t even bothering to hide what they were doing,” said one observer.

36. Hilliard had got his Lear jet from World Jet Inc, owned by drug smuggling brothers Don and Bill Whittington, who had supplied the plane to CIA drug smuggler Barry Seal.

37. The Sarasota County Drug interdiction people were told that Dekkers and Hilliard had a green light to operation and that they were to stay away from them, that they... may have had some type of government protection. And the local Venice Police Department were also warned to leave them alone.

38. A former Huffman executive, speaking about the hijackers: "Early on I gleaned that these guys had government protection. They were let into this country for a specific purpose. It was a business deal."

39. The FBI visited the home of this executive just four hours after the attacks. The purpose has been not to investigate, but to intimidate him into silence. The man says his phones were bugged, and thinks pilots were "double agents." He quit the flight school fearing for his life, and claims he knows too much about Wally Hillier, saying he "has a family to think about."

40. Jeb accompanied the FBI when they removed the flight school records on the early morning of September 12, and flew them to Washington.

41. Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris have flown and endorsed Hilliard’s air carrier.

42. In the days following 9/11, a number of Saudis fled the country from Florida after the attacks. They flew on Wally Hillier’s charter aircraft to private fields of military contractor Raytheon, and departed on a 747.

43. After the attacks, a virtually non-existent company that operated out of Venice Airport under Huffman’s license called Britannia Aviation was awarded a five-year, multi-million dollar contract to run the maintenance facility at Lychburg Virginia Regional Airport. (FYI, Lynchburg is the home of Jerry Falwell’s Liberty Baptist University.) Britannia did not have an FAA license to work on planes and showed assets of only $750. It was chosen over Virginia Aviation, which showed a multi-million dollar balance and boasted more than 40 employees.

44. Britannia executive Peter Martens boasted that his company had been providing maintenance at Venice Airport for "Caribe Air," which is a notorious CIA proprietary carrier.

45. A source at the Drug Enforcement Agency says that Britannia has a "green light" from the DEA, and that local police had been warned to leave Britannia alone.

46. Martens also has ties to Falwell, having met his wife at his university in Lynchburg.

47. Many of the Venice flight trainers moonlight by flying "missionary flights" to Central and South America, for such organizations as Pat Robertson’s Operation Hope. (Are mission groups being used as fronts for covert ops?)

48. Most of Atta's closest associates in Venice were not Arabs, but Europeans with connection to the drug trade.

49. Though flight school owners Dekkers and Kruithof had before crashed, within weeks of each other in 2002, both had near fatal crashes. Wreckage was destroyed before it could be examined.

50. According to his girlfriend, Atta was a big Beastie Boys fan.

But anyway the point.. don't take things at face value, especially from the Bush administration ffs.

Ron Paul has more support than Obama online now apparently, more youtube subscribers to his page etc.

 

[Manc]

who in sparta would read that post lmao too long man

 

[Sidewinder]

he went to that joint to have some fun,before he committed suicide by plane crash.You are making the wrong conclusions when you see an article there is a ton of evidence that Bin Laden was involved in 9/11, if you believe that Bush did it,I can't wait for Mecha to come in this thread and own you ass like he did a million times before.






PS. scalar waves

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

conspiracy theories make me laugh so hard. Yeah, Bush did 9/11. Sure.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

who in sparta would read that post lmao too long man

I dunno but one guy in Alaska read it and found it fascinating.

 

[clarky003]

lol, the FBI owned everyone by saying they don't have enough hard evidence to convict Bin Laden for his claimed connection to 911. It's well known, it's exactley why it's not on the list of his crimes on the FBI's website!.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060610&articleId=2623

Learn your history please sidewinder, and none of this hypocritcal nonesense of 'you don't have your facts straight' there are many indescrepanceys and if people do not believe the government they are entitled to their own idea of what happened. For the record I don't believe in any of this george bush conspiracey bullcrap, he's just a pawn in the system, if anything stinks in America it's the people who control the FED.

 

[Sidewinder]

give me a better source your conspiracy nut.That site is full of shit.

same level as the prison planet bullshit.

you fail.





PS.The planes over my house are leaving a weird smoke trail.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

give me a better source your conspiracy nut.That site is full of shit.

same level as the prison planet bullshit.

you fail.

YOU are full of shit because this has been WIDELY known by A LOT of people for a LONG time.

 

[Sidewinder]

another conspiracy nut...yay :|

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

*walks into thread with bacon, sees heated argument and leaves. No bacon for anyone D;*

 

[Stingey]

Oh, you wanna see biased? You want propaganda? Try watching Korea Central News Agency.


Here's a english site for you people. www.kcna.co.jp (I can't get into this, though. Blocked by KISCOM)



Anyway, no matter how biased FOX News is, it's still for the profits. The job of the press is not to tell the truth, but to make as much money as possible

What exactly is KISCOM?

 

[Jintor]

I assume it's the Korean Great Firewall.

 

[15357]

What exactly is KISCOM?

Korea Internet Safety Command. The Mother of all censors.

 

[CptStern]

Oh, you wanna see biased? You want propaganda?

I can't get into this, though. Blocked by KISCOM

lol, pot meet kettle, kettle pot

Korea Internet Safety Command. The Mother of all censors.

land of the free my ass ...btw whom made whom? "by the people, for the people"

 

[Manc]

i love fox news.

 

[brink's]

i love fox news.

I know, it's great. I mean, why think when a news network can do it for you.

 

[Manc]

nah its not that they think for me or anything..its a totally different perspective..no news network is unbiased..i dont think anyone is daft enough to belive that...its just an alternitive point of view...to the far left one we get in eurabia

 

[Sulkdodds]

It's not exactly 'far left' as in relentlessly Marxist / socialist, is it?

 

[Manc]

you taling about the bbc? the corporation that likend the london bombers and uk born terrorists who killed and drowned (aww the shame) in israel to that of good lads...rather than evil murdering scumb..because get prepared just when you reach the age of retirement...or even before..you will be the minority if your white. or even british as its known now.

judging by the actions of the yorkshire tory who stood on a platform of vote for your muslim brother..i think most of you have yet to understand what a good thing it is to be proud of what you are rather than shaming those who find it great to be proud of their country

when those dark days begin to become more aparent for you ...it will be far too late and those in power who whinge, will habve left this country. leaving the likes of yourself to be the lil ol native

 

[Absinthe]

What on God's green earth are you ****ing talking about?

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Nationalism.

 

[Manc]

lol grrr

 

[Solaris]

Dammit Manc, you're right. You've foiled our Marixist plot to infiltrate the BBC and make all broadcasters speak Punjabi. Damn it. Cummon boys, time to go home, don't forget the red flags, we'll try again next year.

 

[kirovman]

Does Rupert Murdoch tell you who to vote for too?

The BBC is chartered to be unbiased. Granted, individuals in the organisation may be biased, but overall its a lot more neutral than the frothing raving Fox News.

I don't need to be told that a suicide bomber is evil, I can figure that out on my own.

 

[Nemesis6]

That's where we disagree. The BBC are by far more biased than Fox News. Some people would probably go out of their way to prove that Fox News is biased. And they're right to some extent. Fox News is a right-wing news network as far as I've understood, and they provide some damn nice rebuttals to people like Edina Lekovic, etc. BBC are biased, Fox is too, but that's the point of their existance, in contrast to the BBC who sue people who release reports of their bias.

 

[Absinthe]

Simply saying BBC is biased doesn't make it so. At least not to the extent you seem to be implying.

Fox offering rebuttals? Since when? Patriotic jingoism and rhetoric doesn't make for constructive dialogue or reporting, but that's exactly what they spout. When people say Fox News biased, they aren't half-right or "somewhat right". In a study conducted by the University of Maryland a few years ago, Fox News was shown to provide more faulty and misleading coverage of the War on Terror than any other American news station by a significant margin. People who watched Fox News were more likely to believe:

o) That WMD were found in Iraq. (67% viewership)
o) That Saddam Hussein was working closely with Iraq. (33% viewership)
o) That world opinion supported the war. (35% viewership)

Fox News ranked number one in each question asked in terms of having the biggest percentage of its viewership believing the above statements. Interestingly enough, CNN (the supposed bastion of liberal bias) consistently ranked three or more places below them, with print media and public broadcasting ranking last.

Something is wrong here. How can such a popular major news network do such a bad job of reporting reality? Of course, causality hasn't been established here. It's a possibility that Fox News doesn't need to do any misleading, since it automatically attracts the intellectually detached who willingly roll around in its blanket of comfort and lies. Maybe it's just some endless feedback loop where the viewer, already convinced that WMDs have been found, has no problem with preaching to the converted. But that might be just as bad. Either way, the news is a joke.
Fudging up the last two statements can be forgivable, but the first? How the hell do you end up with 67% of your viewers believing a falsehood? Fox News managed a whopping 80% in terms of viewers having a misperception. The trend in the results effectively rules out coincidence. So while everybody showed grievous errors in their reporting, Fox was the utterly unchallenged champion of spin.

If we're really going to keep up apologetics by implying that Fox News is just as bad as CNN (or whatever moonbat station you wish to insert here) in terms of their bias, then the only conclusion we can make is this: Conservative bias is inherently far worse than liberal bias. And why wouldn't it be?

 

[Sulkdodds]

you taling about the bbc? the corporation that likend the london bombers and uk born terrorists who killed and drowned (aww the shame) in israel to that of good lads...rather than evil murdering scumb..because get prepared just when you reach the age of retirement...or even before..you will be the minority if your white. or even british as its known now.

Please provide the original news stories for these so we can actually comment. Whenever I've seen terrorists likened to "good lads" in the news it's "look at these people - by all other accounts they were good british lads. So how did they turn so murderous?" Either that or it's shocked/outraged friends of people who were arrested commenting on how they always thought the accused was a good lad, or alternatively how the accused is not a terrorist but a good lad.

None of this represents a tremendous case of press bias.

Could you present some real arguments, instead of vage unsourced references, inflated rhetoric, and the traditional bullshit straw man that equates 'being proud of your country' to 'opposing multiculturalism?'

I can be proud of my country and heritage without being frightened of becoming a minority. You are not merely "being proud"; that is a fiction invented to recast your opinions as a positive shining value statement.

You are not merely "being proud of your country," whatever your justification for your political beliefs is - and so far you've demonstrated only tired and empty hyperbole, and no sensible rationale. That your claims are so inflated and so unsupported simply makes you look like an actual racist.

Maybe you should give us some halfway sensible or plausible points, rather than "all the whites will be forced out of Britain! THEN YOU'LL SEE!" That's one of the silliest retardo-nationalist shibboleths )which is saying a lot) and I'm sure you know it.

 

[kirovman]

Funnily enough, the BBC is accused of bias by both extreme sides.

On one end of the scale they're accused of being left-wing Islamofascist apologists (board members present demonstrating this).

On the other end of the scale they are accused of being pro-American, imperialist stooges - blocked in places like Iran and China.

Although I have been disappointed in the BBC lately for pandering to tabloid-style frenzies, and misleadingly reporting the dangers of wireless technology on Panorama.

Whenever I've seen terrorists likened to "good lads" in the news it's "look at these people - by all other accounts they were good british lads. So how did they turn so murderous?" Either that or it's shocked/outraged friends of people who were arrested commenting on how they always thought the accused was a good lad, or alternatively how the accused is not a terrorist but a good lad.

Yes, I would agree with you sulkdodds. Just like they reported Dr. Shipman to be a respectable family doctor...who went on to kill 215 of his patients. Now refering to him as a respectable family doctor doesn't make them biased in Shipman's favour...does it?

Although I'd imagine some Daily Mail readers would care to disagree with me.