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wt...f....when did this thread turn from some dumbass interviewing gabe to a stalker discussion, isnt there a whole stalker thread for that? jesus can you people keep all your bickering in one thread?
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CultureShock
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I'm still waiting. Seriously!
I have done in the past, still do, and may do in the future.
Gabe was good enough to answer the questions I sent him, even if they were only stock answers from the PR script. I've never worked for a gaming magazine - that allegation came from someone with an axe to grind, and they didn't have the grace to acknowledge my correction. And no, I don't make stuff up.
Key elements of Half-Life 2's design were externally inspired, and Valve lack a serious long term approach to gaming and related factors, and their focus is a little narrow. They're driven by the grass roots not the blue sky. They're also fairly likely to be on rocky ground as a game producer before the end of the decade, unless they change - adapting will be too late.
Other opinions may differ.
That's just to distract the nitwits.
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All hail the blustery howl of ignorance.
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I tried stickin up for you...but you really are a jackass.
Wth is that "rocky ground" statement? are you an industry analyst? You have no basis for such a statement. This industry is very dynamic and things change so quickly anyone could end up on rocky ground in a heartbeat...but it certianly wont be by creating incredible games. Games is one of the few creative industries that is still driven by art and innovation, unlike the music industry, unlike the film industry, the comic book industry etc. Lucky for games the profts rely on the little guy being creative and innovative. Grass Roots makes this industry what it is, your "blue sky" seems to be a metaphor for profit...Let the publishers aim for the blue sky...thats what they do best, thankfully for us, its the grass roots that create the games.
Wth is that "rocky ground" statement? are you an industry analyst? You have no basis for such a statement. This industry is very dynamic and things change so quickly anyone could end up on rocky ground in a heartbeat...but it certianly wont be by creating incredible games. Games is one of the few creative industries that is still driven by art and innovation, unlike the music industry, unlike the film industry, the comic book industry etc. Lucky for games the profts rely on the little guy being creative and innovative. Grass Roots makes this industry what it is, your "blue sky" seems to be a metaphor for profit...Let the publishers aim for the blue sky...thats what they do best, thankfully for us, its the grass roots that create the games.
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^You're just going to get labeled a "nitwit". There's no coming back from that.
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Look: who IS this guy? Guy: who ARE you?
And what is with the pompous attitude? If you're going to take that sort of know-it-all attitude, then you need to back it up with more than just the rambling speculation or groundless characterization that everyone else in the world is equally capable of.
You asked some questions, you got some answers. Hate to break the news to you, but hundreds of other people have been doing that: see the sticky thread. And you know what? Their dialogues are far more interesting than yours not because of any problem with Valve, but because they asked interesting questions rather than stock industry questions desperately trying to sound edgy (and you could have at least tried to grammar check your questions I mean no wonder Gabe didn't understand your first question!
This question is incredibly vague: referencing an idea that you obviously have about the direction of development which you never bothered to really explain. Whatever it is, you seem to take its assumptions for granted, making it a loaded question. Then you somehow you manage to work in a phrase that belittles the game ("as well engineered as it appears to be"), but that seems to have no relation to anything else in the question.
And you're missing a "that" in there somewhere, leaving the sentance basically unintelligible.
The use of the phrase "With that in mind" implies that the new sentance has some connection to the previous one. But what this connection is is anyone's guess. What does changing their fee structure for liscences have to do with prettier engines with higher fidelity to artist design? And, as usual, your question is filled with the use of the passive voice and a bunch of highly questionable loaded assumptions, such as that gaming is a "sterile medium" which you seem to assume is suffering some sort of blacklist of people who are just not satisfied with the current level of "content fidelity." An idea that is pretty much pure nonsense as far as I can see.
Yet another heavily loaded question, where you basically blather on for a bit, then take your own characterizations as settled facts, and then ask a question based on those assumptions.
So first you subtly knock them for being driven by profit, then when Gabe says that they don't worry about profits that much, you now knock them for not having a long term business strategy. Indeed, you make sweeping predictions about their business strategy when Gabe didn't tell you much at all about it that would allow you draw such conclusions. And while it's nice to have opinions, it's also much nicer to ground those opinions in reality by arguing from some basic facts from which inferences can be drawn. Why will things be rocky for them? What do you consider a "serious long term approach?" And why would they tell you about it, considering that they like to keep all their big surprises and future plans close to their chests?
This was yet another incredibly vague question that Gabe actually answered by pointing out some interesting usages of their technology: I'd definately like to hear more about what they are doing with phobia and autism. But this wasn't what I assume you meant. You obviously meant something like "Are you planning to port HL2 to dishwashers, or make a HL2 sitcom? But if you aren't you're horrible people that don't share my incredible vision that I have excatly 0 talent with which to fulfill myself."
None of your conclusions about Valve have any basis in the answers you posted: you just jump to conclusions you want to with no explanation at all, assuming our awe at a claimed massive intellect will stun us into silence. No dice: where's the awesome intellect?
Come to think of it, you aren't Derek Smart in disguise, are you?
And what is with the pompous attitude? If you're going to take that sort of know-it-all attitude, then you need to back it up with more than just the rambling speculation or groundless characterization that everyone else in the world is equally capable of.
You asked some questions, you got some answers. Hate to break the news to you, but hundreds of other people have been doing that: see the sticky thread. And you know what? Their dialogues are far more interesting than yours not because of any problem with Valve, but because they asked interesting questions rather than stock industry questions desperately trying to sound edgy (and you could have at least tried to grammar check your questions I mean no wonder Gabe didn't understand your first question!
This question is incredibly vague: referencing an idea that you obviously have about the direction of development which you never bothered to really explain. Whatever it is, you seem to take its assumptions for granted, making it a loaded question. Then you somehow you manage to work in a phrase that belittles the game ("as well engineered as it appears to be"), but that seems to have no relation to anything else in the question.
And you're missing a "that" in there somewhere, leaving the sentance basically unintelligible.
The use of the phrase "With that in mind" implies that the new sentance has some connection to the previous one. But what this connection is is anyone's guess. What does changing their fee structure for liscences have to do with prettier engines with higher fidelity to artist design? And, as usual, your question is filled with the use of the passive voice and a bunch of highly questionable loaded assumptions, such as that gaming is a "sterile medium" which you seem to assume is suffering some sort of blacklist of people who are just not satisfied with the current level of "content fidelity." An idea that is pretty much pure nonsense as far as I can see.
Yet another heavily loaded question, where you basically blather on for a bit, then take your own characterizations as settled facts, and then ask a question based on those assumptions.
So first you subtly knock them for being driven by profit, then when Gabe says that they don't worry about profits that much, you now knock them for not having a long term business strategy. Indeed, you make sweeping predictions about their business strategy when Gabe didn't tell you much at all about it that would allow you draw such conclusions. And while it's nice to have opinions, it's also much nicer to ground those opinions in reality by arguing from some basic facts from which inferences can be drawn. Why will things be rocky for them? What do you consider a "serious long term approach?" And why would they tell you about it, considering that they like to keep all their big surprises and future plans close to their chests?
This was yet another incredibly vague question that Gabe actually answered by pointing out some interesting usages of their technology: I'd definately like to hear more about what they are doing with phobia and autism. But this wasn't what I assume you meant. You obviously meant something like "Are you planning to port HL2 to dishwashers, or make a HL2 sitcom? But if you aren't you're horrible people that don't share my incredible vision that I have excatly 0 talent with which to fulfill myself."
None of your conclusions about Valve have any basis in the answers you posted: you just jump to conclusions you want to with no explanation at all, assuming our awe at a claimed massive intellect will stun us into silence. No dice: where's the awesome intellect?
Come to think of it, you aren't Derek Smart in disguise, are you?
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If this interview actually happened it's been pretty badly conducted. Anyone that's ever taken an interview will know that asking open-ended questions is basically an invitation to an unrelated response, marketing drivel, or talking about what the interviewee wants to talk. If you want a useful answer you must ask questions in such a way that the person will either have to answer the question directly with 'yes' or 'no' or a short sentence or simply say that they cannot disclose the information at the time.
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Ug. Apos, why are you even wasting your time? The guy is obviously a troll - and a bad one at that - who seems to have registered multiple accounts.
His questions are grammically incorrect and his assumptions obviously full of air.
Why even bother? It's not like he has anything better to do - let him get on living his shattered pretense of a life. No need to get angry.
His questions are grammically incorrect and his assumptions obviously full of air.
Why even bother? It's not like he has anything better to do - let him get on living his shattered pretense of a life. No need to get angry.
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It's palpable that this whippersnapper CultureShock is just having us on. His sagacity is incogitable if you espouse to postulate the nub. His solicits are indubitably dissimulated. Any guttersnipe with half a cerebellum can enumerate that he perjured them to make manifest himself in a more mesmeric incandescence.
I surmise that this homosapien is a slatternly hokum! I could catechize much more sophisticated interrogatories to Gabe!
I surmise that this homosapien is a slatternly hokum! I could catechize much more sophisticated interrogatories to Gabe!
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Stop feeding the troll guys. The interview is obviously fake (check out his posts on other forums, he's a known liar and con artist). Admin can you close this thread please.
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Yes, that's part of what I do, which is why I push the edge of opinion. They're the questions that interest me, and you're welcome to your own interpretations of Gabes answers. That couldn't be more fair. It would make a change if you held up that end of the bargain, eh?
Wise up. Some idiot just nicked an old alias of mine and my avatar. Congrats. You're the fourth person this month to try digging into my personal life - no comment. I'll also add that I've never knowingly lied online, so the smear attempts elsewhere aren't worth much.
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I love you. :imu:
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Not without correcting a few things.
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Boogaleeboo
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I'm fairly certain this is an intellectual exercise to see how much he can say without saying anything at all.
To put that in words everyone can understand, let me steal a quote from the popular 90's movie "Pulp Fiction" beloved by all and entirely useful for this discussion. Lord knows reading this thread made me feel like the Gimp:
ENGLISH MOTHER****ER!
DO YOU SPEAK IT?!
To put that in words everyone can understand, let me steal a quote from the popular 90's movie "Pulp Fiction" beloved by all and entirely useful for this discussion. Lord knows reading this thread made me feel like the Gimp:
ENGLISH MOTHER****ER!
DO YOU SPEAK IT?!
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Nah. When enough of you guys are trolling and spamming there's little point in making any effort. Flamboyant performance aside, I'm more interested in hearing why you have say about the topic. So far, not a lot. Go on, spoil me - I know you can.
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If you cast your net widely, the most obscure and innocent fact can mean something significant, though to the uninformed it might mean nothing. In that respect gaming is no different from other fields.
I'm still waiting for that biting analysis someone promised.
ermmmm it actualy says
"Simulation speed outperforms many commercial engines."
it does not give any examples of such engines that it outperforms. if you can show the facts and fogures to support this..... baring in mind that Source uses a HEAVILY modified version of the Havok physics engine..... of which we know very little about the optimisations and advancements made. Then i will concede this one point.
As for Source only partly implimenting DX9 ..... im sure ive seem somewhere that Source has full dx9 feature implimentation.
any, i cant wait for stalker either but until more details about Source are released id be ebtting on Source being more advanced, the scalability thats been talkeda bout impresses me.
As for getting the industry guys to have a look, ones in hospital and the other i ahven't seen for a while. you'll ahve to wait longer CultureShock....... but it will come.
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Yes. Anyone can build something to beat a special case. At the end of the day, it all comes down to whether an engine provides a solution to a problem. A Rolls-Royce is uselss in the jungle, and a Land-Rover is useless on the race track. In any case, engine talk really isn't in the domain of pure game players.
Whenever.
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Why dont you go to a place where professionals work...
What good does it do for you and your research to come into a place with gamers and stir up a ruckus? Do you want to be taken seriously or what? I dont think you do, I think this bull shit is fun for you.
You are a terrible interviewer, wether you beleive so or not...you are aware that a company uses a press kit and stock answers yet you ask questions that are grammaticaly incorrect, cofusing and cause the interviewee to revert back to the stock answers from the press kit...very probing.
You are an even worse reporter...you present your information with a pompous and arrogant attitude asthough youve done gabe a favor by "taking time out of your busy schedule" to ask him a bunch of nonsense and waste his time...you use a condesending tone when addressing the public, hinting further at you arrogance. You obviously came here to share this with us...so why the arrogance, to me that suggests you do it for yourself...so why not keep it to yourself?
You keep eluding to "your work" and "what you do" but you never disclose it...how can you expect anyone to take you seriously at all? You pretend your some type of industry analyst, but you cant provide facts, link to research, show trends or any other information to substantially back up your claims...instead you point us all to an article about a misunderstood kid with waaay to much time on his hands...and that in itself seems quite appropriate.
What good does it do for you and your research to come into a place with gamers and stir up a ruckus? Do you want to be taken seriously or what? I dont think you do, I think this bull shit is fun for you.
You are a terrible interviewer, wether you beleive so or not...you are aware that a company uses a press kit and stock answers yet you ask questions that are grammaticaly incorrect, cofusing and cause the interviewee to revert back to the stock answers from the press kit...very probing.
You are an even worse reporter...you present your information with a pompous and arrogant attitude asthough youve done gabe a favor by "taking time out of your busy schedule" to ask him a bunch of nonsense and waste his time...you use a condesending tone when addressing the public, hinting further at you arrogance. You obviously came here to share this with us...so why the arrogance, to me that suggests you do it for yourself...so why not keep it to yourself?
You keep eluding to "your work" and "what you do" but you never disclose it...how can you expect anyone to take you seriously at all? You pretend your some type of industry analyst, but you cant provide facts, link to research, show trends or any other information to substantially back up your claims...instead you point us all to an article about a misunderstood kid with waaay to much time on his hands...and that in itself seems quite appropriate.
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It's called "taking the piss." Get some perspective.
While the questions were knocked out in a spare few minutes, what you don't realise is I congratulated Gabe on pushing out Half-Life 2 and Steam, am quietly supportive of their overall way of doing business, and thanked him for providing the answers he did.
All I've seen most of you guys do is moan, jump to conclusions, or sling mud around. This doesn't pay respect to Gabe, me, and most importantly for you, yourself. When that sinks in, you might realise why Gabe gives stock answers and I don't say much.
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Well done, Parasite.
P.S. Perspective has nothing to do with anything, kid. Try again, and try to dispense with the smilies.
P.S. Perspective has nothing to do with anything, kid. Try again, and try to dispense with the smilies.
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Max Diablos
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HI EVERYBODY! :cheers:
Just because you believe the tripe you post does not necessarily make it true.
Or even remotely necessary. The one thing you do competently is present yourself as a jackass and a pseudographer. You don't need any help with that.:bounce:
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CultureShock
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If you think I'm worried about a forum full of kids on a sugar high, you've got be joking. I couldn't care less.
Oh, and MD? Alias and avatar hijacking is a bit peurile. If you're going to commit hate crimes, you could at least do it with some degree of flair and originality.
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Mindshare.
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CultureShock
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As I said, kids on a suger high. Couldn't give a damn.
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This should be amusing.
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No, you may not lie, but there are things called half truths that get the job done for you. You just dodge a question with some sort of inflated version of english that doesnt really mean anything and that nobody understands. Most people that speak the english language use the most effecient choice of words while trying to keep it civilized enough to make themselves not look like an idiot. You on the other hand, probably sit there with a thesaurus making every word you say nearly impossible to understand. But when people finally decipher your drivel with the aid of a dictionary, they realize it doesnt make any sense.
But what I dont understand is what the hell you get out of this? You come to forums, stir up a bunch of trouble with a buch of gamers only wanting to have a good time, then try to hide behind someone you know they like. What Im talking about is your sudden attempt to say "you thanked gabe and you quietly support his cause".
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