Gay games!!!

Lil' Timmy said:
no.. i don't understand what you mean! all i can say is nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Oh no, never shall I do risky Google searches again after I needed a picture once of a tampon for a Photoshop job and landed on sites dedicated to menstruation fetishes... mankind sucks ass.

By the way, why is this in General Gaming, sure it was intended as a gaming discussion, but needless to say it isn't anymore... :stare:
 
I have to point out: The Sims already allows gay relationships. No one thus far has cared.
 
I think it'd be interesting to see a gay character in a game, or perhaps a gay relationship. If anything, it would be refreshing if it was done right, and seriously. I know games like the Sims have allowed for gay characters to exist, but I think it would be interesting to see it in a game more story-based. I can understand those who say homosexual acts turn their stomachs a bit. In all honesty, when I see sexual acts of a heterosexual nature, I feel a bit strange. It's not disgusting really, but not something I'd like to participate in or think about.
 
Direwolf said:
I have to point out: The Sims already allows gay relationships. No one thus far has cared.
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that's because only female gamers play the sims.. and women aren't as generally concerned about the issue and the one's that are.. well, who listens to women anyway? are the fish biting today?
 
Lil' Timmy said:
that's because only female gamers play the sims.. and women aren't as generally concerned about the issue and the one's that are.. well, who listens to women anyway? are the fish biting today?
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Actually, female gamers are the only ones who play the Sims for more than an hour. I know tons of male gamers who bought the game only for the brief, yet oh-so satsifying thrill of lighting fire to the house with the sims trapped inside a room with no doors, or removing the ladder to the swimming pool while the stupid Sim people are enjoying the water, or starving them for days, or...I've gone on long enough

/me gets his coat
 
I remember when some disgruntled employee at Maxis made all of the people men and have them strip and dance when you beat SimCopter. That was interesting.
 
ShadowFox said:
I remember when some disgruntled employee at Maxis made all of the people men and have them strip and dance when you beat SimCopter. That was interesting.
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explain, so that I can understand ....this is what I think you are saying


if you win at Simcoptor at Maxis (some store?) you have to take your clothes off and dance?
 
CptStern said:
explain, so that I can understand ....this is what I think you are saying


if you win at Simcoptor at Maxis (some store?) you have to take your clothes off and dance?
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No, no, no...

Maxis is a game developer. Jeeze.. they only made the highest selling computer game ever made.
 
PvtRyan said:
I thought religion had something to do with loving and accepting your fellow man (and with man I mean human being, not man as in guy! :p) and here you reject someone on their sexual preference? Gotta love them Christians, 'we love everyone and everything, Jesus loves you, that is, if you're not different from us!!'
That is desgusting.
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This may sound a little preachy, but it is the best way I am going to get my viewpoint across and show why your generalization is wrong.

Everybody who is not a practicing Christian (that means believing in Jesus, reading the bible, etc) is a sinner. Since they are not saved, that means they will go to hell. Regardless if you are a homosexual or a regular person, if you are not saved, you will be going to hell. In an essence, I put all non-Christians in one category.

With that said, I am supposed to show non-Christians my beliefs by being kind to them and showing them respect. Insulting and making fun of homosexuals is wrong, just like when you make fun of somebody's race or physical characteristics.

If somebody is willing to believe in what I believe, I will gladly call them a Christian as well. However, that includes giving up their homosexuality. You may call homosexuality a byproduct of nature, I call homosexuality a byproduct of nurture. Science has not proven either theory to be right or wrong.
 
Shadowfox: hehe now I understand :) although it would have been better my way ;)


blahblahblah said:
Everybody who is not a practicing Christian (that means believing in Jesus, reading the bible, etc) is a sinner. Since they are not saved, that means they will go to hell. Regardless if you are a homosexual or a regular person, if you are not saved, you will be going to hell. In an essence, I put all non-Christians in one category.
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I'm not sure what particular branch of christianity you subscribe to but catholicism does not follow that road. If you are a non-believer it doesnt mean you'll condemned to hell.
 
I am a non-denominational Christian. Needless to say, the Catholic Church and Protestant denominations have some idealogical differences. Since I am not a Catholic, I have no idea how that idea in Catholicism works.

I didn't mean to drag this thread into a religious debate. I needed to explain my religious stance on why I wouldn't buy a game that has a homosexual character/story. :cheers:
 
I still dont know what this has to do with a playing a game that has a gay character
 
CptStern said:
I still dont know what this has to do with a playing a game that has a gay character
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blahblahblah said:
Rather simple, I won't buy the game.
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el Chi said:
Question to those who would be uncomfortable with playing a gay character:
If it turned out that there was a gay storyline in HL2 between say, Barney and Gordon would you still buy it?
Personally I'd be pissed off if (I say if, I mean when) there's a love story twixt Gordon and Alyx. The gender would make little difference to me.
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Blahblahblah said:
I never said I was uncomfortable with gays. I am against video games with gay themes because of my religious beliefs.

Disclaimer: I do not hate homosexuals. Frankly, I don't even care about them. Aside the fact that they don't subscribe to my religious beliefs, I only have 2 qualms about homosexuals. Homosexuals adopting children and trying to get married (they can get there tax benefits or whatever, just please don't call it marriage). I would treat a homosexual as I would treat another person who doesn't subscribe to my religious beliefs - with respect and hope that they will eventually believe in my religion.
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el Chi said:
I meant that as a genuine question, not as a snide criticism. But you answered it so fair do's. I just thought it might be interesting...Just as another genuine question, what's your perspective on gay Christians?
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Blahblahblah said:
I'm afraid this will ignite a flame war soon, but I don't believe you can be a gay Christian.
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PvtRyan said:
I thought religion had something to do with loving and accepting your fellow man (and with man I mean human being, not man as in guy! ) and here you reject someone on their sexual preference? Gotta love them Christians, 'we love everyone and everything, Jesus loves you, that is, if you're not different from us!!'
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Blahblahblah said:
This may sound a little preachy, but it is the best way I am going to get my viewpoint across and show why your generalization is wrong.

Everybody who is not a practicing Christian (that means believing in Jesus, reading the bible, etc) is a sinner. Since they are not saved, that means they will go to hell. Regardless if you are a homosexual or a regular person, if you are not saved, you will be going to hell. In an essence, I put all non-Christians in one category.

With that said, I am supposed to show non-Christians my beliefs by being kind to them and showing them respect. Insulting and making fun of homosexuals is wrong, just like when you make fun of somebody's race or physical characteristics.

If somebody is willing to believe in what I believe, I will gladly call them a Christian as well. However, that includes giving up their homosexuality. You may call homosexuality a byproduct of nature, I call homosexuality a byproduct of nurture. Science has not proven either theory to be right or wrong.
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That should explain it. :D
 
Gay characters in games?

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B00006JJHB.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Not new, not old, not a victory, not a defeat.

If a company wants to put that sort of thing in there its thier right. If a person dosent want to consume that product, thats thier right too.


I just find it incredably non-sensical that some people define themselves by what they like in bed.
 
blahblahblah said:
If somebody is willing to believe in what I believe, I will gladly call them a Christian as well. However, that includes giving up their homosexuality. You may call homosexuality a byproduct of nature, I call homosexuality a byproduct of nurture. Science has not proven either theory to be right or wrong.
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Not to totally derail the topic, but what makes you think people can simply give up being a homosexual? Let me put it this way, if it is so simple to do, why don't you try and give up on your heterosexuality? Could you honestly reject what your mind says is natural for you? It can't be done, it simply cannot be done. Some people are confused about their sexuality and may think themselves straight only to later discover they are gay, while others may think themselves to be gay only to realize later they are straight. However, someone who honestly knows they prefer the same sex in terms of physical and mental relationships, and have really had only those feelings for as far back as they can remember cannot just give it all up.

For example, I've known about my own sexual orientation since early childhood, although at the time I didn't realize it. I remember how it clicked when I was probably about 9 or 10. I was watching a program on homosexuality upstairs in my room when it all of the sudden clicked, "Hey, that's me". Everything made sense, and I understood that I had not changed in any way, but I knew that I was different from everyone I knew- friends, family or otherwise. That was a weird day. I didn't choose to be gay, I recognized it, but I never chose it. If I could have chosen, I would have chosen to be straight. I went through a stage of trying to be straight. Doing things with girls, etc. But that ended in failure, followed by depression, acceptance, and now, finally, happiness. I tried to go against my own nature, and I ended up so incredibly depressed that I was put on medication and sent to a psychologist. This isn't a matter of choice. Believe me, I tried to change myself. I was young, and terrified of the things that supposedly happened to homosexuals in life, and death. I wanted no part of it. Yet, no matter what I did, my sexuality never changed. Now I realize that God, if he exists, made me in this way, and would not have me act ashamed of it. To deny my nature would be the true sin.
 
blahblahblah said:
That should explain it. :D
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ya but ...what does that have to do with playing a game that has a gay character?

would you play a game that had a chinese person? an aboriginal,what about black, texan, scottish, handicapped, albino ?

what if it's a non believer? if you say every body who doesnt believe in your religion is going to hell then we are all sinners. so in other words we are all in the same catagory as homosexuals: we are sinners therefore you cant play any game that has any of the following: characters who are hellbound which by your definition is anybody who doesnt believe

methinks it's a question of choice, not what your religion tells you
 
I am not against that
anyway the gays are normal people that just like the people of is same sex
and the idea of gay games is like a signal of freedom, like the same sex marriadge
 
not meaning to sound belligerant or condescending blahblablah but IMHO your belief system is as alien as the taliban (only in it's extremism not in it's acts) or any other extremist group
 
Qckbeam - Have you ever knew what you wanted to say, but couldn't put it into words? That is how I am right now. Everything I have written seems so crude and unrefined that it would do injustice to everybody by posting anything I have written.

You are still one of my favorite mods (for helping me with MSVC++ and coding). :)
 
CptStern said:
methinks it's a question of choice, not what your religion tells you
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he chooses to act in a way that he interprets is in accordance with his religion. why are you so obsessed with his beliefs stern? let him like and not like who and what he wants.
 
it's just that it seems there is a hole in his logic. He has every right to like who he wants, I just thought it odd that he would be so exculsionary when it comes to homosexuals
 
CptStern said:
it's just that it seems there is a hole in his logic. He has every right to like who he wants, I just thought it odd that he would be so exculsionary when it comes to homosexuals
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Question for CptStern here: What do you think of furries?
 
furries? sounds like something out of the Warriors movie
 
CptStern said:
furries? sounds like something out of the Warriors movie
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Furries are people who like drawings of people combined with animals. Some of them dress up like animals and have furry sex.
 
ductonius said:
Well, "worse" would probably be vore furries or macro furries.
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now you're just getting a little too esoteric for me ....is that a hint? :eek:
 
CptStern said:
now you're just getting a little too esoteric for me ....is that a hint? :eek:
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Not at all. A part of my philosophy is that there is no such thing as useless information, so if I find a topic I havent heard of yet, I read up on it.

In any case if you havent seen some of this stuff its rather...... different, than what the majority is into.

Looking at macro-furry porn is probably not your cup of tea at all. But looking at some of the stuff might give you an idea of what they feel like when many people see gay characters.
 
Lil' Timmy said:
he chooses to act in a way that he interprets is in accordance with his religion. why are you so obsessed with his beliefs stern? let him like and not like who and what he wants.
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Thank-you. I have a problem with these religious questions/debates/criticisms. Being a Christian, I feel I need to answer/comment every question that is posted. The problem is the questions/comments usually multiply everytime I post. If you might imagine, it can get quite budensome. I go on these forums to enjoy myself, not to be bombarded with criticisms. I really don't mind the occasional religious question, in fact I even enjoy them. It just gets disenchanting when people call your beliefs "taliban" or "alien" (even if you don't mean them :p)

If you people do have questions about my beliefs, I suggest you talk to a pastor so your questions can be properly answered. I am sure any pastor will talk to you and treat you with proper respect (assuming you do the same). In case you are wondering, I go to a Calvary chapel. Chances are there is a Calvary Chapel if you live in a larger city. If there is no Calvary Chapel where you live, the next closest denomination would be a Baptist Church.

I hope you can understand. You may now resume your conversation about "furries." :)
 
Lets leave the gender topics and Christian posts for the appropriate boards. Like OTHER forums. BTW what do your fellow CHRISTIANS say about you playing violent video games? Im sure Liberman would have a field day cutting down the makers of the game we are all supporting with our hard earned cash.
 
ductonius said:
Not at all. A part of my philosophy is that there is no such thing as useless information, so if I find a topic I havent heard of yet, I read up on it.

In any case if you havent seen some of this stuff its rather...... different, than what the majority is into.

Looking at macro-furry porn is probably not your cup of tea at all. But looking at some of the stuff might give you an idea of what they feel like when many people see gay characters.
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while I concede you have a point, I still think it is strange to have a reaction that borders on revulsion when looking at someone who is homosexual.
 
Jeez, all this talk about gay sex and macro furries has got me heated up :naughty:. Personally Im bi so of course I want to see two guys go at it in lion cloths.
All this fuss about gay relationships in games though makes me wonder why no one talks about interracial relationships in games. How often do you see that in a game? Im tired of seeing all these white people in my rpgs. Throw in acouple of mexicans or something, that would be refreshing.
I want a black chick, or a black guy..oh wait no i got it a mexican and a black guy in a relationship now there is a beginning of a great rpg. Id also like some racism to go along with that, make it like one of those corny hollywood black guy meets white guy movie. Ok sorry drug it off topic.
 
there is nothing wrong with being gay in my humble opinion
gay people should be valued for their taste and view on society from a position few people can ascertain
 
CptStern said:
I think you want grand theft auto san andreas
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Ok yea theres one. Any others? I cant think of any. How about transvestites? I want my trannies :(
 
Snakebyte said:
...and bringing the topic back to "gay games"...

***Warning, links have some adult language/themes!***
http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/naughty02.htm
Here's another one...
http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/naughty05.htm

^ Best. Commentary. Ever. :p
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Omfg Choaniki is the best game ever.

Especially the special features, its a man wearing nothing but a speedo doing random poses for 10 fsecking minutes.

But seriously, the bosses in that game are the funniest thing you'll ever see.
 
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