Gay pride week

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RakuraiTenjin said:
I don't get gay pride parades. I mean they can do it but the concept seems dumb. If someone held a straight pride parade everyone would just look at them like an idiot.

They can do it but the whole thing just seems dumb. Some of the ones in San Francisco I've seen pictures of are really bad (sex in the streets)
But I know that's just mainly there and most parades are just that parades. The idea still seems dumb to me though, I don't care what they prefer sex wise, it's not my business.


I think that they do it to get attention and to make sure that people are taking notice of them. But people do notice them and they are taken seriously and they are an accepted part of society. I have nothing against gay people as m friends are gay, i just don't like to be around really camp people and unfortunately for gay men, the typical gayman stereotype is a really camp guy who just wants to have sex with lots and lots of men.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
If someone held a straight pride parade everyone would just look at them like an idiot.

Straight people generally aren't oppressed.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
I don't get gay pride parades. I mean they can do it but the concept seems dumb. If someone held a straight pride parade everyone would just look at them like an idiot. They can do it but the whole thing just seems dumb.


dear god, I'm am constantly being ignored ignored :


CptStern said:
no you misunderstand ..they're celebrating the fact that they can celebrate ...most gay pride days started as a protest against how the police were treating homosexuals



RakuraiTenjin said:
Some of the ones in San Francisco I've seen pictures of are really bad (sex in the streets)


actual sex? penetration? fellatio? I find that hard to believe ...sure nudity and mabe heavy petting but I cant see them openly engaging in sex without police intervening

RakuraiTenjin said:
But I know that's just mainly there and most parades are just that parades. The idea still seems dumb to me though, I don't care what they prefer sex wise, it's not my business.


well as I've already proven gay pride is about celebrating your right to be gay but you're right it's none of your business
 
I think at this time, where homosexuality generally isn't frowned upon, apart from inAmerica by hardcore religious fanatics, there is nothing to protest about, so they're just using it as an excuse to party, drink excessively, and get off with a hot man.

Can't really blame them really, apart from the hotman part.
 
Razor said:
I think at this time, where homosexuality generally isn't frowned upon, apart from inAmerica by hardcore religious fanatics, there is nothing to protest about, so they're just using it as an excuse to party, drink excessively, and get off with a hot man.

Can't really blame them really, apart from the hotman part.

not protesting, celebrating, celebrating gay rights
 
CptStern said:
not protesting, celebrating, celebrating gay rights


Not really, i just see it as a really sad country where a minority group has to celebrate that they actually have rights. Everyone should have rights, just like everyone else.

Like thingy said, you would never see a straight pride week as straight people are used to having rights. Gay people are now being given the same rights as straight people, in most countries apart from America and the other religious fanatical countries, so will it get to a point where Gay Pride weeks and celebrations will be pointless?
 
we are all people, it thier day, hope they had fun..doing whatever they did :)
 
Razor said:
Not really, i just see it as a really sad country where a minority group has to celebrate that they actually have rights. Everyone should have rights, just like everyone else.

Like thingy said, you would never see a straight pride week as straight people are used to having rights. Gay people are now being given the same rights as straight people, in most countries apart from America and the other religious fanatical countries, so will it get to a point where Gay Pride weeks and celebrations will be pointless?



but so are women blacks and other monority groups ...the US has martin luther king day and the world has "International Woman's day" (since 1909) why couldnt they have a day for celebrating gay civil rigths? I dont understand why people care ...I'm not irish but that doesnt stop me from going to a pup on st patricks day for a few pints or watching the parade on tv
 
Homophobia may not be such a big thing any more, but it is still readily apparent (going from my experience). Gay Pride Day is pretty much a way of saying "Hey! We're people too!".

While I see where some people are coming from when they ask why we don't have a Straight Pride Day or White Pride Day, I personally couldn't care. When contextualized, things such as Gay/Black Pride Day have more meaning, significance, and relevance.

And I too would like to see a Heretic Day, although perhaps a name with softer edges would be more appropriate... like "Day Of The Infidels". ;)
 
I see homosexuality as a disease. It goes against our natural reproductive habbits and is not a healthy practice.
 
I saw we all have hawt butt sechs to celebrate.
 
Locust said:
I see homosexuality as a disease. It goes against our natural reproductive habbits and is not a healthy practice.


ya cuz our only reason for being on this planet is to have children :upstare:


oh and everyone knows that heterosexual relationships are all healthy happy and loving :upstare:



it's people like you that are diseased

Absinthe said:
Homophobia may not be such a big thing any more

I wish this were true but it's all too apparent from ignorant remarks such as Locust's that that attitude isnt going anywhere anytime soon
 
CptStern said:
ya cuz our only reason for being on this planet is to have children :upstare:


oh and everyone knows that heterosexual relationships are all healthy happy and loving :upstare:



it's people like you that are diseased



I wish this were true but it's all too apparent from ignorant remarks such as Locust's that that attitude isnt going anywhere anytime soon

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't really care about queers if they don't bother me. Its not like I lose sleep over it. But if they bring about a beggining to social collapse in America by spreading AIDS everywhere, then I'll have to take a stand. But for now, they don't bother me and I don't bother them.
 
Locust said:
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't really care about queers if they don't bother me. Its not like I lose sleep over it. But if they bring about a beggining to social collapse in America by spreading AIDS everywhere, then I'll have to take a stand. But for now, they don't bother me and I don't bother them.

:upstare: shouldnt you be reading the old testament or sacrificing a lamb to jebus? social collapse give me a ****ing break it's the rise of the religious right that will lead to the social collapse of america
 
Religion has held it together for this long, and only now are we experiencing social unrest. There are too many minorities that want absolute rule over the country and no side is going to budge on their issues. What we really need to do is to balance the liberal ideas with the conservative ones.
 
Locust said:
Religion has held it together for this long, and only now are we experiencing social unrest. There are too many minorities that want absolute rule over the country and no side is going to budge on their issues. What we really need to do is to balance the liberal ideas with the conservative ones.

religion has been the impediment to progress since the dawn of man, the sooner we do anway with it the better ...it's inevitable ...I just cant see future humans clinging on to the silly notion that this universe was created in 6 days
 
CptStern said:
religion has been the impediment to progress since the dawn of man, the sooner we do anway with it the better ...it's inevitable ...I just cant see future humans clinging on to the silly notion that this universe was created in 6 days
If you don't want to believe it, you don't have to. Heck, I don't even believe that. But religion has hardly been the guiding factor in any nation. If you look into most religions, they will promote peace and mental health. But most nations are warring nations who could give a damn about Jesus' commandment of "Love thy enemy".
 
Sounds like a gigantic waste of money to me.
 
Locust said:
If you don't want to believe it, you don't have to. Heck, I don't even believe that. But religion has hardly been the guiding factor in any nation. If you look into most religions, they will promote peace and mental health. But most nations are warring nations who could give a damn about Jesus' commandment of "Love thy enemy".

but why doesnt that extend to gays?
 
Unless there is a Man's day, or a Straight day, or a White day, or a ginger haired day, or a Halflife2 day, or a....wait, is there a national Chinese day, or national Arab American day, or a national Japanese day or a national European American day?

Why can't all the Europeans living in America have a day just for them, they're a minority. Is there an Arab American day? they are a minority that have been oppressed far more in the past few years then the gays ever were.

My argument is actually mute if there is a national European American day :(.

And i just can't see a gay pride day where people dress up as women or go completely naked giggling their love jewels or whatever as helping their rights. Too me, it is just an excuse to get together with other people like themselves and have a party, which i can't see anything wrong with. But like i said, why does the minorities, who most of which at the moment aren't actually a minority, let alone an oppressed minority, get a day where as me, being a white heterosexual Englishman don't? Not that us white heterosexual Englishman would actually give a shit about it though :(, lazy shits the lot of them. :flame:
 
It extends to gays too. It isn't the person that is bad, it is the action of homosexuality that is wrong.
 
Because only ghey people carry the dreaded aids!!!!

/sarchasm

Even though africa has the highest aids population and a big chunk of them are catholic.
 
Locust said:
It extends to gays too. It isn't the person that is bad, it is the action of homosexuality that is wrong.


according to who? you?
 
Homosexuality is disgusting. Why should society benefit their disgusting choice and perverted practices when they don't offer anything back? IE. Children.
 
CptStern said:
but why doesnt that extend to gays?
gays arent people k :hmph:

im sorry stern, but the whole gay rights movement is a completely made up falsehood. modern historians will say it started around the 1950s or 60s. nothing gets me more riled up then when, like yesterday, a gay rights promoter/activist comes on the news, and compares the gay "struggle" to the blacks/asians/etc struggles. i mean its really laughable given what "they've been through".

shit mate, you neednt look farther than the article you posted to know the roots of the gay rights movement. alcohol, violence, and so forth. they didnt like how they were being treated by police?
that had been selling liquor without a license, about 1,000 transvestites, gays, and lesbians taunted police and threw debris; police responded with violence.
i mean saying that what the police did was hate based or anything specifically based upon their orientation or whatever is mind-blowing.

i'm not at all against homosexuals, but some of them have an extremely self righteous and arrogant attitude toward society... this is another expression of it.
 
is you say so
 

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I dont know why I bother sometimes ...you do realise that the US has officially recognised the stonewall riots as a civil rights movements? right but all you guys see is guys dressed as women or revealing leather outfits ....you're too busy seeing how it's affecting you rather than seeing how it's affected them


oh must I bring up Matthew shepard again?
 
Glirk Dient said:
Homosexuality is disgusting. Why should society benefit their disgusting choice and perverted practices when they don't offer anything back? IE. Children.

A man and a woman can be happily married and choose not to have children. Is that bad for society?
 
It's funny how homosexuality has been around for centuries...hell even some of the worlds greatest leaders were gay/bisexual. (IE Alexander the great).Yet those empires thrived...hell why hasn't humanity collapased all of a sudden eh? LIEK OMG NO BABY MAKIN TEH END OF THE WORLD IS COMING!!! LAWLZ
 
Glirk Dient said:
Homosexuality is disgusting. Why should society benefit their disgusting choice and perverted practices when they don't offer anything back? IE. Children.

says who? you? who are you to have any say on what someone does with their life? are you the authority on how we should live our lives?

should I just walk up to my married friends who are incapable of having children and say "sorry but you have to dissolve your marriage because you "dont offer anything back IE children"
 
Glirk Dient said:
Homosexuality is disgusting. Why should society benefit their disgusting choice and perverted practices when they don't offer anything back? IE. Children.
How about adoption? There are lots of orphans(sp?) out there and gay couples can adopt them.
 
CptStern said:
says who? you? who are you to have any say on what someone does with their life? are you the authority on how we should live our lives?
ding ding ding!! hypocrisy alarm!
stern: "gay people should be allowed to marry"
dissent: "no they shouldnt"
stern: "WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THEY SHOULDNT"

Well stern, who in the **** are you to say they should?

the authority is thousands of years of human thought. arse.
should I just walk up to my married friends who are incapable of having children and say "sorry but you have to dissolve your marriage because you "dont offer anything back IE children"
if you get to marry another man i get to marry a billy goat and sodomize it all i want.
 
gh0st said:
ding ding ding!! hypocrisy alarm!
stern: "gay people should be allowed to marry"
dissent: "no they shouldnt"
stern: "WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THEY SHOULDNT"

Well stern, who in the **** are you to say they should?

if you get to marry another man i get to marry a billy goat and sodomize it all i want.


human rights says they have the right to choose who they want to marry ...just because in your backward ass mind homosexuality is comparable to bestiality doesnt make it so ....a billy goat doesnt consent a human does/can
 
It's funny how they miss my post yet continue to attack you stern.

GG on being a centrist.
 
CptStern said:
human rights says they have the right to choose who they want to marry ...just because in your backward ass mind homosexuality is comparable to bestiality doesnt make it so ....a billy goat doesnt consent a human does/can
a billy goat cant give consent? sure he can. all he has to have is that twinkle in his eye..

human rights "says so"? where does human rights "say" something? hell even the UN's almost universally agreed upon human rights charter says nothing about two men being able to marry. sorry, but i think that human rights are "saying" stuff in your mind :( might want to get that checked out.

i appologize for not being as free thinking as you are. because i adhere to the principles of 2000 years of human thought i am backwards. since i am backwards, so must be thomas jefferson, julius caesar, and everyone else who has not faught for homosexual rights.
 
CptStern said:
right but all you guys see is guys dressed as women or revealing leather outfits


I think that is a lot of the problem that people have with homosexual men, the vast majority of gay men live very normal lives without dressing up as women and without wearing leather, bondage outfits and without having a really camp persona, but this small minority of gay people who do might give a bad generalisation to all gay people in the eyes of a lot of people.
 
Razor said:
I think that is a lot of the problem that people have with homosexual men, the vast majority of gay men live very normal lives without dressing up as women and without wearing leather, bondage outfits and without having a really camp persona, but this small minority of gay people who do might give a bad generalisation to all gay people in the eyes of a lot of people.
give this man a cigar! fill it up with turkey!
 
gh0st said:
ding ding ding!! hypocrisy alarm!
stern: "gay people should be allowed to marry"
dissent: "no they shouldnt"
stern: "WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THEY SHOULDNT"

Well stern, who in the **** are you to say they should?
So you think that men should be able to marry women but women shouldn't be able to marry women? Sexist?

gh0st said:
if you get to marry another man i get to marry a billy goat and sodomize it all i want.
how can you compare a man to a goat? If someone kills a goat should it he be charged for murder? In a gay marrage it's 2 people who love eachother and want to spend the rest of their lives together. If the goat was a human it whould be rape.

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gh0st said:
i adhere to the principles of 2000 years of human thought
Do you believe that God made the world in 6 days? That's well over 2000 years old.
Indians (native Americans) 2000 years ago openly accepted gays
Do you believe that the Sun orbits the world, that was over 2000 years worth of thinking.
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Or do you think that men are supierior to women in every way?
 
gh0st said:
give this man a cigar! fill it up with turkey!


I don't smoke but i will take the turkey if you don't mind :).
 
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