"Gay weddings"

[Jintor]

Well, mind you there are psychological and health issues with homosexuality...but it's not too far different from a dad beating his kid.

And there aren't psychological and health issues with straight relationships?

 

[diluted]

And there aren't psychological and health issues with straight relationships?

Indeed. Ask the guy who married the God Warrior.

 

[el Chi]

Gay people have also been around longer than Christianity. Hell, Romans even did it with young boys

I see where you're going, but let's just separate homosexuality and paedophilia right now, before it goes any further.

 

[Reaktor4]

these threads sure get the ****s out of the woodwork
homophobia is akin to racism

 

[el Chi]

these threads sure get the ****s out of the woodwork
homophobia is akin to racism

If by "akin to" you mean "basically the same as" then yes.

 

[SIGbastard]

nope, marriage comes from the word "marry" which means to join ...nothing about "to join a man and woman"

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marry



oh and traditionally I am allowed to beat my wife to death for disobedience

I'm sorry but it's pretty assinine to say that the word ever meant to be for the relationship of anything other than the opposite sexes. If you can point an example contrary to this it would hold merit.

 

[Sulkdodds]

So let's say marriage was meant to be for malexfemale only.

Which leaves us with the question: so f*cking what?

 

[SIGbastard]

I see where you're going, but let's just separate homosexuality and paedophilia right now, before it goes any further.

Studies have shown that there is indeed higher rates of pedophilia among homosexuals. It's just a fact. That's not to say that all homosexuals have these thoughts it's just something that is supported by numbers.

 

[Glirk Dient]

And there aren't psychological and health issues with straight relationships?

That's what I was saying.

Don't think I am saying homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry. I am just letting you all know there is a logical other side to this issue.

Studies have shown that there is indeed higher rates of pedophilia among homosexuals. It's just a fact. That's not to say that all homosexuals have these thoughts it's just something that is supported by numbers.

If they get married that will affect what? That statement seems more like homosexual bashing and trying to prove they are bad so then they don't deserve to be married. What you pointed out has nothing to do with why they shouldn't be married.

 

[SIGbastard]

Marriage was meant to be for men and women. So f*cking what?

I have no problem with homosexuals but I think giving civil unions equal status would do a great deal to appease both sides rahter than changing our countries definition of marriage to satisfy a small minority.

 

[SIGbastard]

these threads sure get the ****s out of the woodwork
homophobia is akin to racism

It depends on whether you believe it is a choice or not. If you believe it is a choice then it is far different than racism. There has been ZERO significant evidence that supports it is of biological origin. There have been studies that suggest it is but there are just as many studies that suggest something completely different.

Oh and I am no homophobe. I do not approve of the lifestyle but I don't approve of lots of things so it doesn't really matter. That doesn't mean I will not associate with homosexuals or help one in need. Hell, lots of people such as Stern don't approve of the mini-arsenal of guns I have. Some of my close friends are some what anti-gun but it doesn't keep them from being my friend.

The thing I do have issue with is the parading display that SOME not all homosexuals have. They think that everyone has got to know that they are a homosexual. I am talking about things such as gay pride parades and what not. The one's I speak of make their sexual preferences the centerpiece of their life for everyone to see. I don't see straight people doing this. We don't have parades in honor of being straight. You don't see people making it a point to let everyone know how straight they are. I say live how you want to live. Just don't make it a point to make a display or annoucement out of it. I'm not saying you should hide who you are. You can still be openly gay and not force it down everyones throat.

 

[CptStern]

It depends on whether you believe it is a choice or not. If you believe it is a choice then it is far different than racism. There has been ZERO significant evidence that supports it is of biological origin. There have been studies that suggest it is but there are just as many studies that suggest something completely different.

Oh and I am no homophobe. I do not approve of the lifestyle but I don't approve of lots of things so it doesn't really matter. That doesn't mean I will not associate with homosexuals or help one in need. Hell, lots of people such as Stern don't approve of the mini-arsenal of guns I have. Some of my close friends are some what anti-gun but it doesn't keep them from being my friend.

The thing I do have issue with is the parading display that SOME not all homosexuals have. They think that everyone has got to know that they are a homosexual. I am talking about things such as gay pride parades and what not. The one's I speak of make their sexual preferences the centerpiece of their life for everyone to see. I don't see straight people doing this. We don't have parades in honor of being straight. You don't see people making it a point to let everyone know how straight they are. I say live how you want to live. Just don't make it a point to make a display or annoucement out of it. I'm not saying you should hide who you are. You can still be openly gay and not force it down everyones throat.

did you choose to be straight?

 

[SIGbastard]

That's what I was saying.

Don't think I am saying homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry. I am just letting you all know there is a logical other side to this issue.



If they get married that will affect what? That statement seems more like homosexual bashing and trying to prove they are bad so then they don't deserve to be married. What you pointed out has nothing to do with why they shouldn't be married.

I was just pointing it out as the topic somewhat arose.

 

[SIGbastard]

did you choose to be straight?

As a matter of fact I'm pretty sure I did.

 

[kirovman]

As a matter of fact I'm pretty sure I did.

Wow, so you started off Bi?

 

[Solaris]

I have no problem with homosexuals but I think giving civil unions equal status would do a great deal to appease both sides rahter than changing our countries definition of marriage to satisfy a small minority.

10%

So, you just replace man woman with man woman/man man/ woman woman.
Oh teh F****g noes!

-Don't think I am saying homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry. I am just letting you all know there is a logical other side to this issue.

What logical side? Youre reasoning is terrible.

 

[SIGbastard]

Wow, so you started off Bi?

No I started out thinking kissing was gross. I was mostly non-sexual as far as thought about other people.

 

[Sulkdodds]

You what? Are you actually Short Recoil or something?

Yeah, I thought kissing was gross...before puberty. I certainly didn't think 'hmm, now I gotta make a big lifestyle choice. Girls or guys...girls or guys...'. In such an event I probably would have chosen guys because I didn't know many girls that well. Or maybe I'd have chosen girls because of peer pressure. I think there is substantial evidence to suggest sexuality is not a choice:

- To my knowledge, no-one has ever successfully switched sexualities.
- Before homosexuality came to be more accepted within society, as it is now, gays were forced to hide their feelings and many were ashamed of themselves. This strongly suggests they had no choice in the matter.
- I have asked two gay people (not like q questionaire...friends) and guess what? Apparently they didn't choose it. Oh look, that's first-hand evidence (or second hand since you're getting it from me).
- I did not choose to be straight. I do not know anyone who 'chose' their sexual orientation. That would be crazy.
HMMMMMMMM

 

[Yuri]

...or is this one of those "In before close" subjects that you just KNOW are going to turn into slanging matches and bigotted rants?

lol I completely love how you predicted that.

 

[CptStern]

As a matter of fact I'm pretty sure I did.

so you weighed the pros and cons of homosexuality and heterosexuality and you made a choice based on ....what exactly?

 

[Beerdude26]

so you weighed the pros and cons of homosexuality and heterosexuality and you made a choice based on ....what exactly?

Man penis = Hawt

Woman penis = Hawter

Ok, so it might not have gone exactly like that, but it's pretty close.

 

[Yuri]

Man penis = Hawt

Woman penis = Hawter

Ok, so it might not have gone exactly like that, but it's pretty close.

men don't have penii you fool

 

[Mechagodzilla]

I chose to be straight because I saw a guy and he said hello and I said I AM ATTRACTED TO YOU BUT SORRY I HAVE CHOSEN TO BE STRAIGHT FOREVER. OUR LOVE CAN NEVER BE.

Seriously though, if you have to make a choice, that's at least bisexuality on your part.

There's an easy way to prove me wrong though: simply choose to be asexual and go without any form of sexual stimulation for the next two years.

Don't think I am saying homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry. I am just letting you all know there is a logical other side to this issue.

...by posting no logical points at all?

If you don't have a good argument and don't even believe in the issue in question, that's a good indicator of when to stop talking.

 

[short recoil]

You what? Are you actually Short Recoil or something?

It's about control rather than lack of natural sexual attraction.

With my working out i have hormone levels of a male elephant, sometimes i find myself almost unstoppably attracted to women but i like to exercise full logical control over most things i do, otherwise i'm closer to being an animal.

And btw sigbastard, you didn't choose to be straight, it's hormones mate.

 

[Absinthe]

Studies have shown that there is indeed higher rates of pedophilia among homosexuals. It's just a fact. That's not to say that all homosexuals have these thoughts it's just something that is supported by numbers.

Okay, let me bold this for emphasis.

What the **** does that have to do with anything.

 

[el Chi]

Studies have shown that there is indeed higher rates of pedophilia among homosexuals. It's just a fact. That's not to say that all homosexuals have these thoughts it's just something that is supported by numbers.

<Sighs>
Whilst it is true that a lot of paedophiles are notorious for assaulting young boys, that does not equate paedophiles with homosexuals. There have been a lot of convicted paedophiles who have wives and would otherwise consider themselves heterosexual.
I concede that some married men do, eventually come out as gay, but this really is not the same thing.

The disproportionate level of paedophilia in the Catholic Church is almost certainly a biproduct of sexual restriction and repression. Consider that in the Church of England (for other sections of Christianity, let alone other religions I couldn't say) the level of convictions of paedophilia is far lower. C of E priests/vicars/whatever are allowed to marry, and many of them do have wives and do not interfere - as the gross understatement of a euphemism runs - with young boys.

From this are we to infer that Catholicism is the closet homosexuals' religion of choice? Or are we to infer that perhaps there isn't as much of a link between paedophilia and homosexuality after all?

And what do we say to the paedophiles who assault small girls? Are we to look on them as the strange exceptions to the rule?

Let's face it, paedophilia is a sexual preference unto itself - it is neither truly homosexual nor heterosexual. It involves the same level of power issues that rape does whilst encompassing a sexual motivation outside of normal heterosexual or homosexual relations.

 

[Yuri]

With my working out i have hormone levels of a male elephant, sometimes i find myself almost unstoppably attracted to women but i like to exercise full logical control over most things i do, otherwise i'm closer to being an animal.

What the HELL?

 

[Absinthe]

It depends on whether you believe it is a choice or not. If you believe it is a choice then it is far different than racism. There has been ZERO significant evidence that supports it is of biological origin. There have been studies that suggest it is but there are just as many studies that suggest something completely different.

Then why has it been found that homosexuals have differently structured brains than heterosexuals?

 

[Yuri]

Then why has it been found that homosexuals have differently structured brains than heterosexuals?

I don't even understand why anyone gives a shit WHY people are homosexual or heterosexual. There's no point in caring...

 

[CptStern]

What the HELL?

:O


that's an example of not saying what's on your mind for fear of being put into one of these

 

[el Chi]

I don't even understand why anyone gives a shit WHY people are homosexual or heterosexual. There's no point in caring...

What the f*ck are you on about? You're so naive. Of COURSE you need to know if someone's gay, 'cause then you need to watch your back or they might bum you. Anal rape is a staple pass-time of all homosexual men. Think about that.

Then why has it been found that homosexuals have differently structured brains than heterosexuals?

I seem to recall hearing that there's often a higher level of testosterone in homosexuals (male and female). That would of course mean that the average gay male is more well endowed than the average bigot.
Soak that up.

 

[Yuri]

What the f*ck are you on about? You're so naive. Of COURSE you need to know if someone's gay, 'cause then you need to watch your back or they might bum you. Anal rape is a staple pass-time of all homosexual men. Think about that.

I didn't say "IF" I said "WHY" and for a second there I totally didn't think you were kidding and I was like "o shit wtf el Chi?"

 

[el Chi]

I didn't say "IF" I said "WHY" and for a second there I totally didn't think you were kidding and I was like "o shit wtf el Chi?"

Who's kidding? Seriously, I don't want bummers within a five mile radius of me - who knows what sinful, degrading acts they might try?

 

[Maxi]

It's about control rather than lack of natural sexual attraction.

With my working out i have hormone levels of a male elephant, sometimes i find myself almost unstoppably attracted to women but i like to exercise full logical control over most things i do, otherwise i'm closer to being an animal.

And btw sigbastard, you didn't choose to be straight, it's hormones mate.

You are clearly my superior. I can never accomplish the same things you have and will do.

I bow down before thee.

 

[Sulkdodds]

for a second there I totally didn't think you were kidding and I was like "o shit wtf el Chi?"

Me too.

 

[Apos]

As a matter of fact I'm pretty sure I did.

Lol. I've got bad news for you: none of us straight people did. We never even thought about it: we just ARE attracted to (in my case) females. Prior to even knowing what this attraction was or where it came from.

You know what THAT means about you, don't you?

 

[CptStern]

OH NOES!!11 he's still in the closet! .....not too worry we'll accept and love you no matter what you choose

 

[el Chi]

Me too.

Why!? I start a thread advocating homosexual marriage, defend homosexuality from accusations of paedophilic links, and after all the "time" we've "spent" together, and you thought I might be a homophobic moron!?

Bloody hell, you two. Here comes the Ironical Train, last stop you.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Just this bit. I actually thought you were about to angrily make some very good point that I hadn't considered:

What the f*ck are you on about? You're so naive.

and then I was like 'oh, right, yeah. lol'

 

[kirovman]

Me too.

Me three!