Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

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I just finished watching Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex GIG 1 and I must say it’s one of the best animes I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching. My second favourite, in fact, with Cowboy Bebop slightly in front.

The main reason I find it such a great series is the comparison between humans and machines. Throughout the series, the cyborg humans are portrayed as being cold and mechanical, whereas the Tachkumas (little tanks with the voices of girls!) actually appear comical and full of life, and towards the end of the series, actually start thinking and behaving more like humans as well as showing emotion- despite their lack of “ghosts” or “souls”.

The “Stand Alone” episodes that centre around one unconnected case that Section 9 must solve, are excellent by themselves because they give insight into the main characters without doing a clichéd “flashback” or throwing them into ridiculous situations. Instead, GITS manages to avoid the predictable anime devices and instead evolves the characters simply on how they perform during the missions. While you’ll finish the series knowing less about the characters than say, Cowboy Bebop- you find them a lot more intriguing and interesting for this very reason.

As for the “Complex” episodes; you could watch them all back-to-back without the SA episodes and it would feel like watching a movie. The ‘Laughing man’ plot is excellent, with twists and turns and more than a few stunning revelations. It’s one of the only anime plots I’ve felt satisfied with instead of left wanting more.

---Spoiler---

Jesus, the Tachkumas final sacrifice was f**ing sad. I mean, the tachkumas were abandoned by section 9 and stripped of their duties simply because they grew too smart- and then to see them exchange their lives for the very people who abandoned them at the end is tear-jerking.

Oh and there’s one final twist at the end that seems *bloody stupid*, so I’d recommend *NOT* watching the final episode until you’re about to watch the second series. It’s just a rather pointless ending that ties up all the loose ends without really explaining it (the last episode can be summed up by “BY THE WAY, EVERYTHING WAS O.K. REALLY!”)



LOOK GITS:SAC IS £33 ON AMAZON! GO BUY!
 
It's £30 on play.com. Amazon just aren't as competative as they used to be. And why can't you use the actual spoiler tags instead of returning down from a Line marked "Spoiler"? It's kind of hard not to read a spoiler that's in size 10 font, 1cm down from a Size 10 "Spoiler" warning. Not that I haven't already had this and every other Anime ending spoilt by net forums, but still :p
 
Oh, thats on Cult Movie night on SBS isnt it? I've never seen the show but I can remember playing the original game.
 
I love the GITS show. Definitely my second favorite anime to Cowboy Bebop.
 
Skaadi said:
Oh, thats on Cult Movie night on SBS isnt it? I've never seen the show but I can remember playing the original game.
Yup. Its actually on tonight, and some movie called Blood: The Last Vampire
 
It's very good but I've only watched up to Episode 20! D:
 
Holy crap, good deal on the boxset. Sold. I'm a bigtime GitS fan.
 
Although it's annoying how the damn thing blurts out random quotes from the episode on the 'play episode' screen. SHUT UP G.I.T.S! It's got a nice range of extras as well, which is pretty rare for an anime (in my experience anyway).
 
I still have to get to watching this. Watched both movies but didnt like them all to much. Animation was great just story was random and had no point.
 
Raziel-Jcd said:
I still have to get to watching this. Watched both movies but didnt like them all to much. Animation was great just story was random and had no point.

Then you obviously weren't paying attention.
 
Wait intill you see GITS: SAC 2nd GIG, great series...
 
Suicide42 said:
Oh and there’s one final twist at the end that seems *bloody stupid*, so I’d recommend *NOT* watching the final episode until you’re about to watch the second series. It’s just a rather pointless ending that ties up all the loose ends without really explaining it (the last episode can be summed up by “BY THE WAY, EVERYTHING WAS O.K. REALLY!”)

Oh good, it's not just me being stupid and missing something then. I loved the first half of the episode - the whole 'Section 9 is gone, and most of the members are either dead or disappeared' thing was a great and interesting ending I thought. For a moment there, as Togusa pulled up his coat collar, I thought he was going to become a second laughing man - uncovering the truth of corporate corruption.

Is 2nd Gig out on DVD yet? With the quality of animation I'd rather buy it and watch it on our big TV than download it.
 
Sparta said:
Yup. Its actually on tonight, and some movie called Blood: The Last Vampire


I didnt bother about the Vampire thing, they've showed too much crap lately.
 
You should have bothered. It's short but it's pretty good. :p
 
Sulkdodds said:
You should have bothered. It's short but it's pretty good. :p

huh? I said I didnt bother watching that japanese Vampire thing, not Ghost in the Shell
 
huh? I said you should have bothered watching that japanese Vampire thing, because it's short but good!
 
Sulkdodds said:
huh? I said you should have bothered watching that japanese Vampire thing, because it's short but good!

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, nevermind. Misunderstood. *looks sheepish*

Its too early *rubs eyes*
 
I love Ghost in the Shell. I hope they make a 3rd Gig.
Sorry , it wont happen, two gigs only Im afraid.
It is a shame though, one of my favourite things to come out of Japan, and one of the most intellegent things on telly this year(and last, for that matter).

There is still the comic, the two films, the novel.......etc
 
SAJ said:
Sorry , it wont happen, two gigs only Im afraid.
It is a shame though, one of my favourite things to come out of Japan, and one of the most intellegent things on telly this year(and last, for that matter).

There is still the comic, the two films, the novel.......etc
:O:O:O
Nooooooooooooooooooooo! Where did you hear this?!?!?!?!?!?
I read somewhere that they might. ;(
Edit: http://www.takotech.net/mshp/?blog=2&page=1&disp=posts&paged=2
Scroll down a bit. They have a little secret project.
 
I've seen both the movies. First one is awesome of course, and I did really like the second movie, yet I've only seen it in subtitles (which can be a much at times).

Anyhoo, I have yet to see the S-AC. Going to though. I've heard good things.
 
Has anyone read the novel? I saw it at Barnes and Noble a while back but was hesitant to get it.
 
Sulkdodds said:
You should have bothered. It's short but it's pretty good. :p
Yeah it wasn't bad actually. Didn't have any of those shitty anime cliches and the animation was pretty cool.

Story was lacking though. Didn't explain what the demon things were, or why those guys were teaming up with the girl or anything.
 
Sulkdodds said:
Is 2nd Gig out on DVD yet? With the quality of animation I'd rather buy it and watch it on our big TV than download it.
Really? I have DVD quality GITS:SAC downloaded. I don't think it is imported here yet.
 
So, how much does 33 pounds translate into US currency? I think I want this!
 
I watched Innocense last night and it's even weirder then the first one, the artword though was great :).
 
About $56.70. Looked on Amazon.com and it looks like the Boxset is no longer available in the US market. That and I think it was an expensive, non-thinpak release.

Only $51.60 imported from play.com btw.
 
kupoartist said:
About $56.70. Looked on Amazon.com and it looks like the Boxset is no longer available in the US market. That and I think it was an expensive, non-thinpak release.

Only $51.60 imported from play.com btw.
Yeah, I saw that huge tinned set on Amazon.com, and someone in the reviews seemed to quote somewhere between $110-140. On Play it's £80, so just a little more. I honestly thought we'd be paying shedloads more like usual.
 
The UK has enjoyed a fair bit of Ghost in the Shell related luck. The DVD release of Innocence in the US appeared without them bothering to create an English language track, and it has some of the ugliest boxart I've ever seen. True, the UK DVD isn't actually out until Februrary here (a full year after the US release), but at least it's not such a horridly half-baked release.

That said, I'm not actually a confirmed fan of GitS at all. The first film didn't do anything for me. Too much pointless nudity and far too pretentious for its own good. Innocence sounds much the same. The series though, sounds far more appealing. I've seen the first episode, which is pretty good, and the staff involved are as close to a TV anime dream-team as you can get. Plus, it's dirt cheap. Easily the best Anime bargain in UK history.
 
kupoartist said:
About $56.70. Looked on Amazon.com and it looks like the Boxset is no longer available in the US market. That and I think it was an expensive, non-thinpak release.

Only $51.60 imported from play.com btw.

Yeah, I tried searching for the boxset on Amazon, but they only had the boxset from the UK.

...and the one from play.com are you talking about this?

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=815200&p=57&g=72&pa=sr

Also, one last thing, is the whole 2nd GIG out now, can we get that too in a boxset?
 
ailevation said:
Yeah, I tried searching for the boxset on Amazon, but they only had the boxset from the UK.

...and the one from play.com are you talking about this?

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=815200&p=57&g=72&pa=sr
Well, that's one way of getting it, but I personally refered to the £30 one; http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=741567&p=57&g=72&pa=sr . It's cheaper than Amazon's price, as play.com commonly is so

ailevation said:
Also, one last thing, is the whole 2nd GIG out now, can we get that too in a boxset?
It hasn't been fully released in the UK or US yet, so no boxset though you can probably be assured there will be one once the whole series has been released.
 
That said, I'm not actually a confirmed fan of GitS at all. The first film didn't do anything for me. Too much pointless nudity and far too pretentious for its own good. Innocence sounds much the same. The series though, sounds far more appealing.
The first film is - to be honest - rather shite , the second is pretentious and confused.
The two series are (somewhat supprising, given the pedegree ) pure genius.
 
Arrived today. See you all in about 10 hours.
 
Best part of whole series is volume 6-7.:sniper: Barrett 1.JPG

Barret 3.JPG

Barrett 2.JPG

Barrett 3.JPG
 
SAJ said:
The first film is - to be honest - rather shite , the second is pretentious and confused.
The two series are (somewhat supprising, given the pedegree ) pure genius.


:eek:

I have never met an anime fan who would even consider saying anything bad about Ghost In The Shell, it is one of the very best anime's ever to come out of Japan and often lawded as the best.
 
I thought it seemed a little up itself at points but I liked it overall (the movie that is).
 
Razor said:
:eek:

I have never met an anime fan who would even consider saying anything bad about Ghost In The Shell
You clearly haven't met many anime fans :p
 
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