Girl Kills Herself With Wii Gun...

There is a miasma of bullshit swirling around here.

This thread needs to be ****ing lanced to get rid of the hot air.
 
Don't be passive-aggressive about it, Maestro. We all know there's only one person full of bullshit and hot air in this thread. I'm sure PvtRyan won't bite your head off if you call him out on it.
 
I take criticism very well, actually.

But I hope someone you love catches on fire.
 
You know what occurred to me? Your face probably looks like my avatar right now, while my face looks like your avatar right now.

You mad.

And I'm enjoying it.
 
Another case of two great things being frowned upon because of stupid people that can't use them right? I hope not.

I'm curious as to how a 3 year old was able to get her hands on a loaded gun with any sort of responsible guardian around. That's so stupid...

EDIT: Note to self, read thread before posting ever again.

I'm always late to the party. It makes me sad. :(
 
I agree with Darkside on the gun issue. While I would never purposefully leave a gun around my house where a kid could reach it I would also make DAMN sure my kids knew how to handle a gun and just how deadly they are so that if a gun was left out they would know not to mess with it.

If someone bursts into my house I'm going to do whatever it takes to insure the safety of my family. That could mean turning on the lights, warning the intruder that I am armed, or just shooting the bastard dead. It's a good idea to announce your presence and that you are armed because most of the time the guy is just a burglar and will split. Then there are home invaders...and they are a whole other class of F**ked up. You best off shooting them.

The fault lies with the parents.
This is a purely tragic event.
And this should NEVER have happened.

Really heartbreaking actually.
 
I'm lost on the "Responsible teaching" part on a 3 year old....I'd imagine there is a good chance a 3 year old is RETARDED AS SHIT and can't use common sense in things like guns. *Most, sorry Dark, didn't mean to call you a retard*
I didn't, serious!
 
Sorry kiddos, but I know for sure a 3-year-old kid isn't going to understand that guns =! similar looking plastic toys.

This bullshit about politics forgets, as has been mentioned, HER FATHER LEFT A LOADED .380 OUT THAT IS NEAR IDENTICAL TO THE TOY! What kind of parent DOES that?!
 
That Wii gun looks like it would be really fun to use instead of the white wii gun. But why get a look-a-like toy when you own a gun and have a kid? And then letting your own gun out of your sight?
 
Im sorry, but the idea that if someone breaks into your house and you're going to do everything you can to protect your family, including 'just shooting him dead', will NOT hold up in court. Unless judges are getting seriously retarded these days. That being said, if someone DID break into my house and tried to rob me with force, I would take him down if I could. Yes I would defend myself whichever way I could. But, straight after I would realise how completely ***ked I was for murdering whoever it was that was attacking me.

''Yes your honour, he came into my house, I didnt think twice, I just shot him in the head''. I cant see anyone siding with that, with the whole 'human rights' crap.

You cant say ''I feared for my life'' either. Think of how many other times that applies.

What if a friend jumps out of the shadows at you for a laugh, and because you believe it's your so-called 'right', you have a gun holstered on your hip, which in that split second of fear that we would naturally all feel, you draw and pull the trigger.

''Yes your honour, he scared the shit out of me, so I blew his head off. I was fearing for my life''.

***k off. You're going to jail for manslaughter. Or is the justice system that completely corrupted by human emotion. Its about justice, not feeling sorry for the guy who commited the murder. Not crime. Murder.

If someone breaks into your house and ISNT armed, and you just flat out kill him, after the whole CSI and balistics get in there and investigate or whatever the hell the real-world alternative is to those, then your ass is fried.

YES he broke into your house, but for all you know, he could be just trying to get water. I know thats laughable, but its the simple fact that you DONT KNOW why he broke in.

Then theres the angle of ''DID he break in?''. Did he not just knock on your front door, which you forgot to lock that night, and it just swung open for you?

But no, because you believe its your right to bear arms, you walk up to him and blow his head off because you 'feared for your life'.
 
Or!

Don't break into ****ing strangers' houses.

Go find a god damn duck pond if you need water.
 
Dynasty said:
Im sorry, but the idea that if someone breaks into your house and you're going to do everything you can to protect your family, including 'just shooting him dead', will NOT hold up in court.
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Yes it will, and it has several times. Think about what you're saying. How would self defense not be a legitimate argument for the killing of an attacker?

It will be a messy hassle to prove it was self defense, but if it truly was, then you're in the clear. Shooting a friend who jumped out of shadows would be ruled as an accident.
 
The friend situation could be dire, but a burglar is not going to bat an eye, you could still get a civil suit though but not much other
 
Krynn72 said:
Yes it will, and it has several times. Think about what you're saying. How would self defense not be a legitimate argument for the killing of an attacker?

It will be a messy hassle to prove it was self defense, but if it truly was, then you're in the clear. Shooting a friend who jumped out of shadows would be ruled as an accident.
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But in both those cases, its not what you know, its what you can prove in court.

Just because you say he broke into your house, doesnt mean he/she did.

Just because you say he jumped out of the shadows, doesnt mean he/she did.

If theres no proof, you will walk. If there is proof that supports your claim and nothing proves otherwise, you'll walk. If there is even a smidge of evidence that suggests you just killed in cold blood, you're ***ked.
 
Darkside55 said:
America is a magical place to live. Naked blonde women you can find anywhere. Not everywhere do you have a full-blown license to kill someone for stepping foot in your domicile.
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I'd rather live in Mexico!

Nah, just kidding, but I'd rather live in say Denmark, since recent surveys have shown Denmark to be the happiest nation on Earth!
 
That's because they eat so much candy.
 
Dynasty said:
Im sorry, but the idea that if someone breaks into your house and you're going to do everything you can to protect your family, including 'just shooting him dead', will NOT hold up in court. Unless judges are getting seriously retarded these days. That being said, if someone DID break into my house and tried to rob me with force, I would take him down if I could. Yes I would defend myself whichever way I could. But, straight after I would realise how completely ***ked I was for murdering whoever it was that was attacking me.

''Yes your honour, he came into my house, I didnt think twice, I just shot him in the head''. I cant see anyone siding with that, with the whole 'human rights' crap.

You cant say ''I feared for my life'' either. Think of how many other times that applies.

What if a friend jumps out of the shadows at you for a laugh, and because you believe it's your so-called 'right', you have a gun holstered on your hip, which in that split second of fear that we would naturally all feel, you draw and pull the trigger.

''Yes your honour, he scared the shit out of me, so I blew his head off. I was fearing for my life''.

***k off. You're going to jail for manslaughter. Or is the justice system that completely corrupted by human emotion. Its about justice, not feeling sorry for the guy who commited the murder. Not crime. Murder.

If someone breaks into your house and ISNT armed, and you just flat out kill him, after the whole CSI and balistics get in there and investigate or whatever the hell the real-world alternative is to those, then your ass is fried.

YES he broke into your house, but for all you know, he could be just trying to get water. I know thats laughable, but its the simple fact that you DONT KNOW why he broke in.

Then theres the angle of ''DID he break in?''. Did he not just knock on your front door, which you forgot to lock that night, and it just swung open for you?

But no, because you believe its your right to bear arms, you walk up to him and blow his head off because you 'feared for your life'.
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What? In the US (or so I've heard) you don't even get charged for shooting someone that broke into your house at night.

Also, I find it completely reasonable to assume that the infiltrator may be armed with a lethal weapon and also has the intention of forcibly seperating you and your property, life, and or virginty.
 
Gargantou said:
I'd rather live in say Denmark, since recent surveys have shown Denmark to be the happiest nation on Earth!
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That's only because you can't buy lasting happiness, or we'd have that too!

What? In the US (or so I've heard) you don't even get charged for shooting someone that broke into your house at night.
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Yeah. They will investigate it, but it's considered legal self-defense.

The laws vary from state to state. The only exception is that most states won't allow you to harm a fleeing criminal, but in some you can (like Arizona, for example)
 
CyberPitz said:
I'm lost on the "Responsible teaching" part on a 3 year old....I'd imagine there is a good chance a 3 year old is RETARDED AS SHIT and can't use common sense in things like guns.
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You'd be surprised. You really would be; humans at the age of 3 are really remarkable. For some reason I can never fathom people always tend to think that toddlers are dumb as shit and don't understand a lick. I don't know why this is. Don't any of you remember when YOU were 3?

As for "common sense" in things like guns, listen, a child at 3 definitely understands what pain is. A human's sense of touch is fully developed at 14 weeks. If you've been doing an adequate job of teaching your child, at three years old they definitely understand what the word "dangerous" means. It means it will hurt them. The word is associated with PAIN. Attaching the association for pain with an object like a gun is not a stretch for a THREE YEAR OLD.

Does everyone really believe it's so hard to teach a child that a gun is a dangerous weapon at this age and should be treated with the utmost caution and respect? If so, I question how some of you are going to do as parents if you don't believe that a child is capable of learning something like this at that age.

Perhaps this girl's father thought the same thing of his daughter, and that's why she wasn't properly told not to mess with the gun, or perhaps it was negligence or purposefully deliberate. That, and associating the pleasure of playing a video game with a replica of the gun did not instill in this girl a healthy caution of firearms. Really, I wonder how everyone can be saying, "3 year olds wouldn't understand a gun" when obviously this girl correlated the gun to a video game. Obviously that shows that she could identify the object that RESEMBLED the gun, and associated it with enjoyment. If only the father hadn't bought a replica, and instead purchased one of the brighter-colored lightguns that don't resemble an actual weapon, there's no doubt the child would have been able to distinguish between the two.

Children aren't as stupid as everyone thinks. It's the "different shaped blocks with different colors" lesson that all children are taught as babies. They can differentiate one thing from another and associate meanings to them. That's how we manage to understand words and concepts and objects, something even babies can grasp. Something 3 year olds can definitely grasp.

It's just the goddamn stupidity of the parents introducing a replica into the house and creating the wrong association.

lord_raken said:
The fault lies with the parents.
This is a purely tragic event.
And this should NEVER have happened.
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And despite anyone's bickering about gun laws, or talking about how smart children are, or this side conversation going on about being able to shoot someone if they're in your home in America, THIS statement is the real focus of the thread. The goddamn negligence of parents that resulted in a 3-year-old girl's death.
 
Darkside55 said:
You know what occurred to me? Your face probably looks like my avatar right now, while my face looks like your avatar right now.

You mad.

And I'm enjoying it.
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You thought I was being super serial? Wasn't mad for a second, actually. Although you can be a bit of a retard at times, like when you claimed Transformers was the best movie ever, but I think that's awesome-overflow: in computers, when you add one to a byte that already has maximum value (255) it overflows back to zero.
 
PvtRyan said:
Wasn't mad for a second, actually.
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You don't have to lie, bro. Everyone gets mad. Nobody's gonna remember and say, "Remember that time PvtRyan was mad?" You ain't gotta backtrack to save your ego.
 
Another example as to why America is the greatest country on Earth *Rolls eyes*

That poor girl though...
 
JUL3 said:
Another example as to why America is the greatest country on Earth *Rolls eyes*
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Yes, please, let's all foist the mantle of blame onto America. Because rather than saying, "Another example of negligent parents at work," it's much easier--and funnier--to make a jab at America when something like this occurs.

At the expense of a little girl's life, "HURR HURR ONLY IN AMERICA!"
 
Darkside55 said:
Yes, please, let's all foist the mantle of blame onto America. Because rather than saying, "Another example of negligent parents at work," it's much easier--and funnier--to make a jab at America when something like this occurs.

At the expense of a little girl's life, "HURR HURR ONLY IN AMERICA!"
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It's "parental negligence" + "irresponsible American gun culture". This tragedy wouldn't have happened without either of these elements.
 
Having a gun culture doesn't automatically make it irresponsible. You only hear about our "gun culture" when something goes wrong, not in the cases of millions of people who own guns and haven't had their children accidentally shoot themselves. Let's not make this more than it is: it's the problem of ONE set of parents. Not a culture problem.

Take your pot shots at America in another thread.
 
I think its more tha ATTITUDE in America towards guns that makes them stick out like a sore thumb.

Yes, alot of people in alot of countries have guns. Its life. Its a product you purchase just like everything else. Lets face it, just because you buy a toaster, doesnt mean you cant kill someone with it. (Yeah, I lol'd too when I re-read that) Everything you buy is potentially deadly if you know how to use it.

And yes, that includes your penis. In b4 jokes.

I wouldnt call it a 'problem' with America. I dont even know what to call it; that some people believe it is their constitutional right (or whatever) to carry arms, therefore have no shame in publically announcing AND publically displaying the fact that they are following what they believe to be their so-called 'rights'.

Yeah it may be a written right, but this ISNT the past. We're in the 21st century. If I see someone who isnt a policeman walking down the street with a ***king sidearm strapped to his leg or belt, I'm going to shit myself and steer well clear, preferably running and calling the cops.

Society DOES NOT WANT YOU walking around with guns. It could go off at any moment. Yes there are safety catches and trigger guards of course, but how the ***k am I supposed to know if that gun isnt a) loaded, b) got the safety on, or c) that you're secretly planning a robery or murder or some ***t. Extreme I know, but theres too many variables to consider.

You own a gun, good for you, just get the ***k away from me and I imagine everyone else.

And you should be hung drawn and quartered should that gun of yours you believe is 'protecting your family' or whatever goes off, ricochets off a squirel and slams into some poor woman's forehead.

''Ohh dont be so stupid, that could never happen''.

Its arrogance more than a 'right' in my eyes. The one thing you think is protecting you COULD, not will, COULD be the one thing that destroys your life.

''Yeah I had a gun strapped to my hip which went off as I turned too sharply. Now some kid is dead. But yeah, its my right man!''.

Pathetic.

Leave the guns to the law enforcers.
 
You don't know anything about how guns work, what a carry permit entitles you to, when an appropriate time to drawn a firearm is, or what a holster is, or what is civilization and society... or justice, do you? Too much American media for you. I'm being serious. It's not GTA or a some action movie, it's reality.

Also, I must have fired 100,000 rounds in the past 25 years (actually that was almost all fired before I was an adult) and I've never accidentally shot anyone. Not even close. That's like accidentally sawing someone with a chainsaw. People that have a concealed carry permit are not inexperienced when it comes to how to handle a weapon safely.

Even though you have no firearm experience, what would you do if I handed you a firearm? Do you think you would handle it safely? (i.e. not point it at someone and pull the trigger)
 
Darkside55 said:
Having a gun culture doesn't automatically make it irresponsible. You only hear about our "gun culture" when something goes wrong, not in the cases of millions of people who own guns and haven't had their children accidentally shoot themselves. Let's not make this more than it is: it's the problem of ONE set of parents. Not a culture problem.

Take your pot shots at America in another thread.
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It's one set of parents whose child was killed thanks to a gun that was laying around the house. Why was it there? American gun culture.

And yes, it is a culture problem. America is the only country in the world where possession of a machine designed specifically to kill people is glorified thanks to an antiquated scrap of paper.
 
VirusType2 said:
You don't know anything about how guns work, what a carry permit entitles you to, when an appropriate time to drawn a firearm is, or what a holster is, or what is civilization and society... or justice, do you? Too much American media for you. I'm being serious. It's not GTA or a some action movie, it's reality.

Also, I must have fired 100,000 rounds in the past 25 years (actually that was almost all fired before I was an adult) and I've never accidentally shot anyone. Not even close. That's like accidentally sawing someone with a chainsaw. People that have a concealed carry permit are not inexperienced when it comes to how to handle a weapon safely.

Even though you have no firearm experience, what would you do if I handed you a firearm? Do you think you would handle it safely? (i.e. not point it at someone and pull the trigger)
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Damn dude, out of all the crazy regulars on the forums you're probably the one that I'd least want to have access to firearms.

No offense, but I recall you being the one that like killing cats, and that's a strong sign of a potential future serial killer!
 
Dynasty said:
We're in the 21st century. If I see someone who isnt a policeman walking down the street with a ***king sidearm strapped to his leg or belt
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Holy shit, do you actually believe this is what the United States is like? No, seriously, do you actually think there's a multitude of people walking around with guns holstered on their hips like this is the goddamn Wild West? Do you even know what it takes to get a CCW permit? Do you even know there are states and counties that expressly prohibit carrying of concealed firearms? Ever heard of "No-Issue" jurisdictions?

Don't open your mouth like an idiot if you don't know what you're talking about.
Tagaziel said:
It's one set of parents whose child was killed thanks to a gun that was laying around the house. Why was it there? American gun culture.

And yes, it is a culture problem. America is the only country in the world where possession of a machine designed specifically to kill people is glorified thanks to an antiquated scrap of paper.
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The right to bear arms is not a PROBLEM. Once again you're trying to fault a constitutional freedom because of a single incident. Would this girl have been shot if citizens weren't allowed firearms? No, she would not have been. Does that mean that we should place a ban on firearms? No, it does not.

There are responsible gun holders and there are irresponsible gun holders. Should those who are responsible be punished for the actions of the irresponsible?

You're sitting on your high horse saying, "Well if America didn't have guns!" but the real issue is that someone who had a gun was grossly negligent with it. The problem is not the gun, it's the gun holder.

It's not a culture problem. No matter what you might think. It isn't a culture problem. It's the problem of individuals. Calling it a culture problem is unfairly laying blame while promoting your bullshit anti-gun stance.

People in America are allowed guns. Some people are irresponsible with them. Not everyone is. That is that.
 
VirusType2 said:
Lol. You know that's just some story you made up about me, right? Wow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie
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I recall it was someone else that stated it in a thread years ago, sure as hell wasn't me, but whatever.

Anyway, I fully support the right to bear-arms.

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In fact, I think I might get some to hang over my door.

Now, let's all hug using our bear-arms and make out!
 
Gargantou said:
I recall it was someone else that stated it in a thread long long ago, sure as hell wasn't me, but whatever.
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I can tell you right now, that's a load of shit. Virus would NEVER kill an animal if he didn't have to. Maybe you don't remember THIS THREAD. He won't even kill a mouse.


BTW Virus, I forgot I was gonna call you BEASTMASTER forevermore after that thread.
 
Darkside55 said:
I can tell you right now, that's a load of shit. Virus would NEVER kill an animal if he didn't have to. Maybe you don't remember THIS THREAD. He won't even kill a mouse.


BTW Virus, I forgot I was gonna call you BEASTMASTER forevermore after that thread.
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Aight, then the person who said it was probably joking or being sarcastic, I did not see Virus's post myself so, I was only told of it by others.

My apologies to you Virus, I shall now ritualistically kill myself to wipe the stain of dishonor that I have brought upon my family.
 
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