Gold Master delivered to Vivendi?

i saw that....
and i read it as RELEASE CANDIDATE.

It ain't ever coming out, man.
 
I think they mean the release candidate that was delivered a couple of weeks ago.....but if they don't mean that...then that's an interesting statement.
 
The "Going gold" phrase got its name from the colour of CDs that delvelopers used to make. CDs that were burnt used to be always gold coloured. So in that way, the Release Canditate is a "gold" disc. But going gold has changed to mean "Going off to get pressed".

So no, it hasn't gone gold yet. They are referring to the RC.
 
Yeah its added in there so casually that it seems like a mistake but I thought I should point it out anyways.

Edit:
Yeah but they also say "master" and I wouldn't call a release candidate a master as isn't a master a copy that other copies will be made from?
 
Ordo Draconis said:
Edit:
Yeah but they also say "master" and I wouldn't call a release candidate a master as isn't a master a copy that other copies will be made from?
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Yup master is the copy that all the others are made from. Itsso close people, i'm sure it will be here soon.
 
All RCs are gold masters, it's just they test them and if they aren't good enough they get Valve to change something and make a new one.
 
um, something just occured to me...

the multiplayer "is a surprise"....and they have been in this lawsuit for while....
Is CS:S HL2 in disguise?....supposedly, and no official word yet...there are nine HL2 levels...we just downloaded 9 levels.

hl2php?move=truth ???

what was that all about. I know i was just posting weird stuff when the whole php thing happened, but i was looking at it like a ARG...and those things i posted have all been things i heard/read while on the forums. Regardless of it being spam or not, what I had posted was the first thing they copied to the php site, and they edited a few of them.

I know this is way out there, but so is the line on "move=truth"

"So how will you know when to come back?"

...
 
Are you suggesting that Valve may use the CS:S preload to get Half-Life 2 to us and when CS:S is unlocked it will turn out that it's Half-Life 2?
 
cadaveca said:
um, something just occured to me...

the multiplayer "is a surprise"....and they have been in this lawsuit for while....
Is CS:S HL2 in disguise?....supposedly, and no official word yet...there are nine HL2 levels...we just downloaded 9 levels.

hl2php?move=truth ???

what was that all about. I know i was just posting weird stuff when the whole php thing happened, but i was looking at it like a ARG...and those things i posted have all been things i heard/read while on the forums. Regardless of it being spam or not, what I had posted was the first thing they copied to the php site, and they edited a few of them.

I know this is way out there, but so is the line on "move=truth"

"So how will you know when to come back?"

...
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um i'm more confused than usual. hehe
 
cadaveca said:
um, something just occured to me...

the multiplayer "is a surprise"....and they have been in this lawsuit for while....
Is CS:S HL2 in disguise?....supposedly, and no official word yet...there are nine HL2 levels...we just downloaded 9 levels.

hl2php?move=truth ???

what was that all about. I know i was just posting weird stuff when the whole php thing happened, but i was looking at it like a ARG...and those things i posted have all been things i heard/read while on the forums. Regardless of it being spam or not, what I had posted was the first thing they copied to the php site, and they edited a few of them.

I know this is way out there, but so is the line on "move=truth"

"So how will you know when to come back?"

...
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can we call you 'spooky mulder'? :p
 
Feath said:
Are you suggesting that Valve may use the CS:S preload to get Half-Life 2 to us and when CS:S is unlocked it will turn out that it's Half-Life 2?
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well, they posted the stuff i posted to let us know that they were listening, quite obviously...

it is the anniversary of the "official date"...
 
cadaveca said:
well, they posted the stuff i posted to let us know that they were listening, quite obviously...

it is the anniversary of the "official date"...
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You didn't answer my question. Are you suggesting that when CS:S is available to play it will actually be Half-Life 2?
 
Absolutely.
Would explain why those with the beta got a download before others, maybe.

Have you seen www.ilovebees.com? it's some whacked out stuff... but it one of the best marketing tools out there right now...


You and i know both know that this lawsuit crap won't affect release.
 
i orignally said 21st and 24th for release.

did we not have preloads those days?

the files ARE encrypted.....
 
cadaveca said:
um, something just occured to me...

the multiplayer "is a surprise"....and they have been in this lawsuit for while....
Is CS:S HL2 in disguise?....supposedly, and no official word yet...there are nine HL2 levels...we just downloaded 9 levels.

hl2php?move=truth ???

what was that all about. I know i was just posting weird stuff when the whole php thing happened, but i was looking at it like a ARG...and those things i posted have all been things i heard/read while on the forums. Regardless of it being spam or not, what I had posted was the first thing they copied to the php site, and they edited a few of them.

I know this is way out there, but so is the line on "move=truth"

"So how will you know when to come back?"

...
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hl2 has way more than 9 maps, and no hl2 isn't being disguised as cs:s so it can get released sooner.
 
Somehow I think Vivendi would kinda realise that people were playing Half-Life 2 before it was released.

And no, we didn't have any preloads on the 21st or 24th.

Also, Cadaveca... Can you please stop trying to infer things from hl2.php. It was nothing more than Valve messing around. It didn't contain any secret knowledge and Valve certainly didn't copy your posts because they thought any things you would say in the future would be true. So stop using "Valve copied my posts so I must be right" as an argument as to why people should agree with you.
 
cadaveca said:
um, something just occured to me...

the multiplayer "is a surprise"....and they have been in this lawsuit for while....
Is CS:S HL2 in disguise?....supposedly, and no official word yet...there are nine HL2 levels...we just downloaded 9 levels.

hl2php?move=truth ???

what was that all about. I know i was just posting weird stuff when the whole php thing happened, but i was looking at it like a ARG...and those things i posted have all been things i heard/read while on the forums. Regardless of it being spam or not, what I had posted was the first thing they copied to the php site, and they edited a few of them.

I know this is way out there, but so is the line on "move=truth"

"So how will you know when to come back?"

...
Click to expand...

Wow the imagination of children. :rolling:
 
Feath said:
The "Going gold" phrase got its name from the colour of CDs that delvelopers used to make. CDs that were burnt used to be always gold coloured. So in that way, the Release Canditate is a "gold" disc. But going gold has changed to mean "Going off to get pressed".

So no, it hasn't gone gold yet. They are referring to the RC.
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Actually no. A Gold Master is a very high quality CD copy of the software from which all other copies are then replicated from (with Silver masters coming directly from the Gold, and then regular CDs been stamped from them).
 
Lanthanide said:
Actually no. A Gold Master is a very high quality CD copy of the software from which all other copies are then replicated from (with Silver masters coming directly from the Gold, and then regular CDs been stamped from them).
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I'm explaining what IGN are referring to, not what the actual process is.
 
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTE5LDM=


i don't know if you watched the ATI shader day video, when you could download it...

this is where i get my dates from.

read the article. At that day, shader day, Gabe said it would be a long time before they would be ready, "bad news is that these performance gains go way into the future as new DX9 finctionality will be able to use fewer and fewer pathways"

gabes own words.

"5X as much time optimizing the nv35 path"

this is what seal the games fate for me.

when did the 6800 come out?

when they said september 30th, last year, they weren't talking about the game....they were talking about the BENCHMARK.

i wish i could dredge up that old video of Gabe on the podium.....



EDIT:

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTA2MzI2MzQ4OHMwTVVnQlIybHZfMV80X2wuZ2lm

here's the actual slide from Gabe's presentation.


Ive been playing the forum game ever since.

Seen Spode's shaky cam video, the one you can't find anymore?
 
cadaveca said:
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTE5LDM=


i don't know if you watched the ATI shader day video, when you could download it...

this is where i get my dates from.

read the article. At that day, shader day, Gabe said it would be a long time before they would be ready, "bad news is that these performance gains go way into the future as new DX9 finctionality will be able to use fewer and fewer pathways"

gabes own words.

"5X as much time optimizing the nv35 path"

this is what seal the games fate for me.

when did the 6800 come out?

when they said september 30th, last year, they weren't talking about the game....they were talking about the BENCHMARK.

i wish i could dredge up that old video of Gabe on the podium.....
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What are you talking about? I don't get your point.
 
i got my dates from somewhere, and by my books, they are only 1 week behind. PHP they said it was not gold. How long was php after the Rc was submitted?

How long do you think it's gonna take valve to get a bug free engine to troika, for their release? that october 26th date came from somewhere.
 
cadaveca said:
read my edit.
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I repeat. What's your point? You are referencing one date from a year ago that's not related to anything else in this thread. I just don't understand what you are saying, not that I disagree with you.
 
Feath said:
I just don't understand what you are saying, not that I disagree with you.
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Neither do i!

What are you talking about cada? I'm totally confused!!
 
i have never inferred that php makes any of my posts factual.

i'm just going by what i hear in the halls. i don't deal with the gaming industry, i'm in hardware. my sig kinda makes that plain. All my arguments are just ways that kinda go to show that IGN may be right in it being a Gold Master. Nothing else. thj\ese posts are my thoughts that make me agree with the original post in this thread. I'm sorry if my logic confuses you, it confuses me sometimes!

According to what i think i know, vavle is only one week behind schedule. today will make the week. not a big deal. if MY schedule truly is thier schedule, then GOLD is a definate possibility right now. i mean really, i'm in canada, and it's 2:47 am. if they release gold news, it takes a while for the site to be updated, and probably longer than usual, because people are gonna be excited.

maybe IGN meant to make that slip.
 
cadaveca, the fact is they never did optimize for nv35, so the logic of calculating dates based on optimisation timing is flawed. they just revert to dx8 for nv3x hardware. Kinda throws your whole rationalization out the window.

But yes i believe ign belives valve sent the final gold master to vug. I just question where they got their info from.
 
cadaveca said:
i have never inferred that php makes any of my posts factual.

i'm just going by what i hear in the halls. i don't deal with the gaming industry, i'm in hardware. my sig kinda makes that plain. All my arguments are just ways that kinda go to show that IGN may be right in it being a Gold Master. Nothing else. thj\ese posts are my thoughts that make me agree with the original post in this thread. I'm sorry if my logic confuses you, it confuses me sometimes!

According to what i think i know, vavle is only one week behind schedule. today will make the week. not a big deal. if MY schedule truly is thier schedule, then GOLD is a definate possibility right now. i mean really, i'm in canada, and it's 2:47 am. if they release gold news, it takes a while for the site to be updated, and probably longer than usual, because people are gonna be excited.

maybe IGN meant to make that slip.
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i am now convinced you have some problems, please seek out a psychologist.
 
killahsin-[CE] said:
cadaveca, the fact is they never did optimize for nv35, so the logic of calculating dates based on optimisation timing is flawed. they just revert to dx8 for nv3x hardware. Kinda throws your whole rationalization out the window.

But yes i believe ign belives valve sent the final gold master to vug. I just question where they got their info from.
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fact is too, in gabe's presentation, he did not same the game was coming out sept 30th, 2003...he said the benchmark was. You also cannot guarantee that they have not made improvements between then and the preloads, it's almost guarnteed to ahve happened with the release of DX9b and 9c....and actually, they DID make improvements...he said it took 5X as long...and that they get better results by changeing to the psuedo-dx9. Gabe also said that it was easily fixed by a driver. and what did Nvidia do? swapped the order in which the actual info get processed at the gpu, and dropped the code requiring the extra registers that the NV35 did not have,swapping it in for DX8.


IBILA said:
Total preloadsize:

3,99 GB (4.293.860.332 bytes)

Can't become much bigger if it fits on 6 cd´s.
You can correct me if im wrong 6x700 mb..thats 4200 mb.

Im gonna inform my social enviroment not to bother me for the next 2 months!!!! :thumbs: :bounce:
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add this to my list of reason as well.
How big did gabe say it was?
i know DX has come a long way, but you can't tell me they actually added that much since then.....did they?
 
Total preloadsize:

3,99 GB (4.293.860.332 bytes)

Can't become much bigger if it fits on 6 cd´s.
You can correct me if im wrong 6x700 mb..thats 4200 mb
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you do realise that's uncompressed?
 
ytinupmi said:
i am now convinced you have some problems, please seek out a psychologist.
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my physciatrist thinks that is not nessecary. :cheese:
 
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