Gordon and Alyx

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in gmans speech he states "i must extract from you a small repayment for your own survival" which i assume without alyx, gordon would've died some how. could this be why alyx, in my opinion feels a connection to gordon?
 
"See her safely to White Forest Dr. Freeman." <- I think that's the payment.
 
The G-man is basically saying that he is responsible for your survival, and now in return, he's asking you another favor. He's likely presenting this reasoning for his own amusement, as he seems to be quite able to do more or less whatever he wants with you. He simply enjoys reminding you that you are indebted to him.
 
Logic said:
The G-man is basically saying that he is responsible for your survival, and now in return, he's asking you another favor. He's likely presenting this reasoning for his own amusement, as he seems to be quite able to do more or less whatever he wants with you. He simply enjoys reminding you that you are indebted to him.
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This is what is so confusing about the G-man. Why would he bother wasting his time with puny humans when it appears he is more than capable of carrying out whatever he is asking of Gordon.

The only answer I can think of is that, he isn't capable. When the Vortigaunts blocked him from access to Gordon at the beginning of Episode One, he looked legitimately upset. I think we've been supplied enough examples already to make a pretty good guess about the nature of the G-man, but we just haven't figured it out yet.

Has there ever been an instance when the G-man interacted directly with the environment in more than a passing fashion? I mean, besides flicking the speck of dust of Alyx's shoulder at the end of HL2 and leaning on the railings in the silo in Episode Two, we never see him do anything except stand stick straight. Why is this?

Oh, and in regard to Alyx feeling a connection with Gordon, maybe it is due to the fact that he participated in the Vortigaunt's healing of her Hunter wounds. I think it's pretty obvious Valve wants the player to know that Gordon and Alyx are meant to be.
 
Well, he gave Odessa Cubbage the rocket launcher and apparently told him how to take down the gunship, but that's just speculation. He did however closed the door in front of Shepard that led to Osprey. I am pretty sure he can interact with the environemnt, although he does have "certain restrictions" he has to abide to.
 
Aside from him apparently having restrictions in his abilities/influence as evidenced by his face-off with the vortigaunts in Ep1, he also requires capable humans to do his bidding in order to achieve certain results. What's more likely to rally the rebel resistance in the original HL2? Mythic ass-kicking alien destroyer and Black Mesa survivor Gordon Freeman or creepy suitcase guy you never see? That's something of an oversimplification, but you get the point. Interfering directly could very likely impede the kind of results he wants to achieve by his very presence. And despite his powers, I'm certain there's another force at work (sentient or otherwise) that prevents him from taking matters directly in his own hands. His role is that of a puppeteer.
 
Maybe by acting on the real world with his clearly unnatural powers, would disrupt the space-time continuem, he may need physical beings that are forced to abide by the natural physics of the real world to do his biddings, intervening only at certain times to make sure that the course that his puppets take is the correct one to achieve his goals. But what constantly plays around with me is that the G-Man states that he plucked Alyx from Black Mesa but saw no use really as she was a baby, but saw use for her eventually, which must be in the times we play now.

Maybe the G-Man was reluctant to save Alyx in Black Mesa at Eli's request until he found use for her in the future, but only at the cost of Eli's life at a certain time. Seems to much of a coincidence, that Eli's final down right urge heard by Alyx, is that the Borealis is to be sunk, and then he is killed in a brutal fashion right in front of Alyx. I think the G-Man had intended this to happen ever since saving Alyx in Black Mesa, knowing that the reaction to her farther's death could prove useful in his favor, and its got to be soemthing to do with the Borealis.
 
The G-Man isn't the highest power out there. He has some employers or whatever, people/aliens/things more powerful than him. Maybe he's not allowed to do anything directly. Maybe, indeed, he can't do so physically, though that seems less likely. G-Man does interact with the world, he does talk to people and stuff. He was the one to bring those Nihilanth crystals to the BM test chamber.
 
RioBravoXL said:
Has there ever been an instance when the G-man interacted directly with the environment in more than a passing fashion? I mean, besides flicking the speck of dust of Alyx's shoulder at the end of HL2 and leaning on the railings in the silo in Episode Two, we never see him do anything except stand stick straight. Why is this?
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We see him re-arm the nuclear warhead that turns Black Mesa into a giant hole in the desert. So he can interact directly with the environment, in a certain capacity. He has rules. He has to get clearance for these sorts of things.


Shift, some of these things should really be spoiler-tagged.

Shift said:
Maybe the G-Man was reluctant to save Alyx in Black Mesa at Eli's request until he found use for her in the future, but only at the cost of Eli's life at a certain time.
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He wasn't reluctant. From listening to his inflections and the words he chose, it sounded as if he did it on the spur-of-the-moment; an act to save a helpless little girl from aliens that would have surely killed her. It was not until later that Eli even found out; I'm not entirely sure that he knows.

In early drafts of the story he has no idea why Alyx survived, but her mother had not. The line was, as I recall, "I asked her what happened, but she couldn't tell me." That isn't verbatim, but it's close. Alyx was just there, clutching her mother's necklace, too scared to speak. And it always puzzled me, because I expected some outside help; his dialogue in EpTwo confirmed that.

So unless the story's been tweaked, I don't even think Eli knew about the G-man saving Alyx, or perhaps he suspected, but he probably didn't ask him to do so. The G-man just did it...and then later he realized that she could be useful to him, not the other way around.

What gets me though is at the top of the citadel, the G-man cared absolutely nothing for Alyx's life. He would have let her die, it seems. Was this on orders or simply a change of heart? Or did he know the vortigaunts would save her and purposely leave her there so that they could not interfere--at least initially--with him putting you back in stasis?

A further question is whether he would have even
cared about Alyx reaching White Forest
had the vortigaunts NOT reclaimed you from stasis. He may have had different plans altogether, ones that did not include you or Alyx, or even anyone else in the resistance, but circumstances forced him to update his plans.

It certainly seems as if everything is working out for him now though, what with the rocket
and the borealis
.
 
Darkside55 said:
What gets me though is at the top of the citadel, the G-man cared absolutely nothing for Alyx's life. He would have let her die, it seems. Was this on orders or simply a change of heart? Or did he know the vortigaunts would save her and purposely leave her there so that they could not interfere--at least initially--with him putting you back in stasis?
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Been wondering the same thing - maybe the Vortigaunts got to her before he had the chance to do something about her.

The other thing I have been wonderings is why
the G-Man would even bother to tell you to take her to White Forest when that is what you were doing anyway. Perhaps he just wanted to screw with Gordon (I can still get at you, I saved Alyx, I'll be watching) while delivering the message to Alyx.
 
Gman doesn't operate on the basis of his 'heart' so I don't think he can have a change of heart - just a change of plan. He operates, it seems to me, upon a careful analysis of the perceived benefit to himself or those parties he represents, and he does so without going so far as to make it obvious that he is behind events.

The latter part works very well. Noone seems to acknowledge Gman's existence, and it's taken us this long to even have another NPC even acknowledge his presence.

Think about the resonance cascade: from the ex-BM scientists, civilian population, and puppet human government under the Combine, we hear a fair spread of opinions as to who caused the BM disaster. Some implicitly hold Breen/'The Administrator' responsible (HL1 scientist quotes and general resentment), while some rumours seem to also have circulated concerning Freeman's culpability (Breen's speeches). The effect is even noticeable in this forum ;) Some people still argue that Gman was arguing to stop the experiment, while others talk about the Nihilanth leveraging the experiment for his own ends, without accounting for the other factors.
We've finally had a kind of concrete confirmation in Ep2, so we can put all speculations and deflections aside: Gman was behind the resonance cascade. Yet it still feels as if it can only be indirectly attributed to him.

This is the way he works, and I believe this is the source of the 'restrictions' placed upon him - to preserve his invisibility and the efficacy of his methods.

As for Gman's attitude to Alyx:
It seems that he was involved in saving her from BM and I think it's safe to say he didn't do so out of the goodness of his heart but for her usefulness - and she was extremely useful in HL2 against the Combine. It does seem, however, that he was ready to leave her to die at the end of HL2 because she had served that purpose and he had no further planned intention for her.

However the vorts intervened, of course. Subsequent to that, I think Gman's plans (not heart) changed. There could be a number of reasons for his sudden interest in getting Alyx to White Forest:
1) ensuring the safe delivery of the data packet, and the closure of the superportal
2) As above, thus prompting an assassination attempt by the Combine.
3) The relaying of his words to Eli, either simply to warn/gloat over coming events or to trigger Eli to tell Gordon certain things/make Gordon behave a certain way.

Tied into all of those is IMO the wish to appear before Gordon and show him exactly who is still in charge. The vorts may have confounded Gman for a brief while, but it seems to me that we are now once again very much on a set of rails laid down by him.One of the most expressive uses of Valve's facial technology yet was at the very beginning of Ep1; Gman is at first surprised and pissed off, yet in the blink of an eye it melts away into calm determination and...grim confidence. Flustered he is not. He is still the pivotal figure behind everything that is happening.
 
Excellent analysis there, Laivasse! What I was thinking, adding to your list, is that GMan might have purposely wanted to make Alyx see the certain event at the end of Ep2. He could intend to use her new hatred for Advisors at some point in Ep3.
 
Yeah, good point, that's a very valid number 4. I was racking my brains to try and think of his potential motives, but as is too often the case I was tired and drunk.
 
I think there's a big assumption that people are making about the G-man- that he's working against the Combine.

I'm not so sure he's against them. Let's review the chain of events the G-Man left had the Vortigaunts not intervened after the Dark Energy Reactor explosion:

1. Gordon removed from this dimension
2. Alyx killed by explosion
3. With Gordon gone, the Citadel's Core Reactor explodes on time
4. Message transmitted
5. Resistance unable to launch rocket on time and with proper frequencies
6. Portal Storms begin
7. Superportal opens and the subsequent destruction of Earth by Combine forces

Another point, the Vortigaunts and the G-man are at obvious odds with each other. Vorts have admitted that they are refugees from the Combine and are willing to make a stand with humans on Earth. Stopping the G-man is just another front in the battle.

Now, I admit, the G-man's intentions are vague at best. Most of his efforts seem to serve no one in any clear way. But, unless his plans have completely changed - doubtful since it is bad "business" practice... his actions have been neutral at best, and with the Combine at worst.
 
This is crazy, and just a random thought i thought of yesterday.

What if the Vortigaunts actually are the once with the plan, and right now only uses g man as a tool to get a hold on gordon?

Im not saying they were the once contacting g man in the first place, not at all. But they seem to pretty aware of what they are doing.

Guess we will have to wait and see=)
 
I made a post elsewhere where there was discusion of the GMans motives, generaly I think we don't have enough information at this point to reasonably guess at what they might be. Alot of the events in HL2 and the episodes do seem to result in a bad time for the Combine and since he appears to be manipulating those events it's easy to assume that he is working against the Combine. I don't think this is necessarily true although whether for his own purposes or by instruction for someone else it does all seem to fit together that way.
As I've said elsewhere the fact that the GMan appears to change his mind about Alyx may well simply be due to the Vortigaunts interference. He appeared to be willing to allow her destruction at the top of the citadel after all.
There may well be one common result from two seperate events.
What potentialy occurs as a result of Alyx dying?
What potentialy occurs as a result of Eli dying?
One makes Eli mad the other makes Alyx mad?
With the net result from either being the possible use of the Borialis rather than it's destruction.
It's a scenario I wonder about but as always there's not really enough information.
 
Here's my rough history of G-Man's involvement in this whole mess:

1. Survey teams already recovered various crystal samples from the Borderworld which get tested in the Anomalous Materials lab, but somehow development was hampered by the specimens not being pure enough.

2. The purer crystals were all well-guarded by the Nihilanth and its minions; many survey teams were lost without any pure specimens recovered.

3. Due to these failures, Administrator Breen had no other choice but to employ G-Man to retrieve this crystal. G-Man steals the purest sample he finds, possibly from the Nihilanth's chamber, and brings it back to Black Mesa.

4. G-Man's specific mission is accomplished; it's up to Black Mesa's Administration to determine how the specimen is analyized. Knowing of the impending Cascade, G-Man felt compelled to warn at least Dr. Vance of Unfornseen Consequences due to potential future uses. Overall though, G-Man would have saw how he could benefit from the Black-Mesa Incident and its aftermath, so he was not overly compelled to hault the experiment.

(4A: G-Man makes arrangements with the US military to prepare them for rapid intervention at Black Mesa, if only to help him determine who and what is worth preserving.)

5. With Dr. Breen and the science team gone, the US government becomes G-Man's employers by default. These new employers agree that Dr. Freeman has limitless potential and therefore reserves the use for Freeman if required. However on the side, G-Man saves Alyx Vance from certain death over various objections (and detains Shephard as well).

6. In addition, it falls upon G-Man to destroy Black Mesa and control the Borderworld threat after the military fails to accomplish these objectives themselves. While G-Man did what he was employed to do (with help from a Black Operative unit), the Portal Storms still went on as the BM survivors went into exile, many of them in Eastern Europe.

7. The Seven Hour War sees all world governments destroyed and replaced by the Universial Union; Freeman's contract is now up for the highest bidder on the inter-dimensional market and this is known by the Combine.

8. The Resistance purchases Freeman's services 20 years after Black Mesa with the specific aim to overthrow Breen's reigme, and the Vances prove their worth with the assistance they provide Freeman. However like 20 years prior, G-Man withholds from the Resistance the strategically-fatal side effects of destroying a Dark Energy reactor.

9. Freeman's contract is up once Breen is overthrown; the Vances have outlived their usefullness if there's no Freeman left to assist. G-Man could care less for Eli's life at this point, and possibly would have let Alyx die too in the Citadel explosion if it was up to him. Meanwhile, Freeman becomes a hot commodity on the inter-dimensional market.

10. The Vortigaunts save Alyx and take back Freeman from G-Man, who makes the most of these developments and has Alyx resend his old message to Eli.

11. STATUS UNKNOWN......
 
Impressive read, can agree with most points there.
 
I don't think spoiler tags are nessacary. Everyone knows the story + mythology sections are gonan have spoilers, its there own fault if they read them.
 
I don't like things being pigeonholed as 'US government' in situations such as thins, that just implies that they are more important than they actually are.

Breen emplying the GMan? I doubt that, I actually would see that the other way around. I'm also not even sure than anybody other than Eli even really knows of his existence, and maybe Eli was the person the GMan contacted directly.

Opposing Force is a very touchy area when it comes to canon. The only instances where we have ever seen the GMan interact with the physical world have been in Opposing Force, so we really can't trust that as any evidence until shown otherwise.
And yes, Black Mesa was nuked, but that was to be expected, it does not necessarily have ANYTHING to do with Op4.

The Resistance purchased Freeman? Unlikely. The only person who even knew of the GMan's existence again appears to only be Eli, and even he hadn't spoken to him since before the RC according to what he says in Ep2.

There is also a chance that the GMan could have used Gordon to stop the Citadel explosion anyway. I really don't believe he would have allowed that to happen, unless he himself needed the superportal to mobilise some previously unknown force against the combine homeworld using said portal. Again, this is unlikely as there appears to have been much better ways of going about this.

Another thing that bothers me is that fact that the Vorts have some incredibly immense power, yet they were do easily dominated by the Combine? The only reason I can think this happened is the Advisor's incredible psychic power easily disrupting the Vorts.

Also, the fact that the Vorts can move into this pocket of extradimensional space is extremely intriguing. Have they always been able to do this? How well can they control this? Do they need to know exactly where something is to go to it? Could they have gotten Gordon at another point?
Thinking about this, a highly likely 'employer' for the GMan could be the Vorts themselves. As far as we know, Xen was not their homeworld, so maybe they need the GMan's help in returning home? Or maybe they have a far more sinister agenda. Yes, they appear to be exceptionally helpful, but at the same time I have this bothersome feeling that they can't be trusted.

I'm tired. I'm caffeined. I'm rambling. But think about it.
 
One small thing: Was it not the G-man who provided the crystal to the experiment? I mean, as in going "Here, crystal, do the thing to it. Oh, and prepare for unforseen consequences."
 
Yep, which leads me to believe that he was assisting Eli, as it is Eli who says that the GMan gave *him* the crystal.
 
Psychanalysis05% said:
Yep, which leads me to believe that he was assisting Eli, as it is Eli who says that the GMan gave *him* the crystal.
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That's what I thought. So G-man wasn't really warning him so much as going: "I want you to **** this up. But I'm gonna pretend not to in order to drive you insane with guilt which will motivate you to become the leader of a future resistance so I can cause your death. Or possibly not, depending on how you look at it."
 
Psychanalysis05% said:
I don't like things being pigeonholed as 'US government' in situations such as thins, that just implies that they are more important than they actually are.
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The US Government provided Black Mesa with funding and contracts, not to mention the death squads sent to contain the facility. Obviously they played quite a significant role in the BMRF's history.

Breen emplying the GMan? I doubt that, I actually would see that the other way around. I'm also not even sure than anybody other than Eli even really knows of his existence, and maybe Eli was the person the GMan contacted directly.
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Did you pay close attention to your surroundings at HL1's start? At least two other scientists other than Dr. Vance knew that G-Man existed; one in a tram with G-Man in it and the other in a Sector C room with G-Man. His HL1-era Briefcase had Black Mesa's logo as well. Finally Eli only mentions that G-Man brought the crystal, not that Eli made the arrangements with G-Man to obtain that crystal.

Opposing Force is a very touchy area when it comes to canon. The only instances where we have ever seen the GMan interact with the physical world have been in Opposing Force, so we really can't trust that as any evidence until shown otherwise.
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Again, you've failed to pay attention to G-Man talking to that scientist, indicating that G-Man obviously can interact with the physical world in a regular fashion.

And yes, Black Mesa was nuked, but that was to be expected, it does not necessarily have ANYTHING to do with Op4.
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Laidlaw told Gearbox that Black Mesa needed to be nuked in Op4, I highly doubt that VALVe will bother with inventing a new way for the BMRF to be destroyed.

The Resistance purchased Freeman? Unlikely. The only person who even knew of the GMan's existence again appears to only be Eli, and even he hadn't spoken to him since before the RC according to what he says in Ep2.
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Who else would have purchased Freeman then? Some cosmic millionare who enjoys seeing superbeings waste entire armies for mere amusement? Eli never said anything about not having talked to G-Man since the Cascade either.

There is also a chance that the GMan could have used Gordon to stop the Citadel explosion anyway. I really don't believe he would have allowed that to happen, unless he himself needed the superportal to mobilise some previously unknown force against the combine homeworld using said portal. Again, this is unlikely as there appears to have been much better ways of going about this.
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G-Man allowed the Cascade to doom humanity once; he could do it again with a Combine superportal that formed because of Freeman's reckless destruction. If only G-Man actually gave a damn for humanity's survival instead of merely focusing on profit.....

Another thing that bothers me is that fact that the Vorts have some incredibly immense power, yet they were do easily dominated by the Combine? The only reason I can think this happened is the Advisor's incredible psychic power easily disrupting the Vorts.
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If only the Nihilanth had the power to rape minds and throw beings around telepathically.....

Thinking about this, a highly likely 'employer' for the GMan could be the Vorts themselves. As far as we know, Xen was not their homeworld, so maybe they need the GMan's help in returning home? Or maybe they have a far more sinister agenda. Yes, they appear to be exceptionally helpful, but at the same time I have this bothersome feeling that they can't be trusted.
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So in order to free their home from Universial Union rule, the Vortigaunts have to..... conquer some other world? They had other reasons to invade Earth including crystal theft and abduction of Xenians.
 
Laivasse said:
3) The relaying of his words to Eli, either simply to warn/gloat over coming events or to trigger Eli to tell Gordon certain things/make Gordon behave a certain way.
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It could be like you say a gloat but why bother to warn him? If he wants it to happen then why potentially throw a spanner in the works?

I'm wondering if it's some kind of intelligence test - Eli was warned before the Resonance Cascade but let it go ahead anyway - once it looks like something similar may happen with the Borealis does humanity have the will or the intelligence to stop it happening again? Or maybe it's a double bluff, G-man wants Gordan/Alyx to destroy the Borealis afterall.

Tied into all of those is IMO the wish to appear before Gordon and show him exactly who is still in charge. The vorts may have confounded Gman for a brief while, but it seems to me that we are now once again very much on a set of rails laid down by him.One of the most expressive uses of Valve's facial technology yet was at the very beginning of Ep1; Gman is at first surprised and pissed off, yet in the blink of an eye it melts away into calm determination and...grim confidence. Flustered he is not. He is still the pivotal figure behind everything that is happening.
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What I'm wondering is once the Vorts are no longer distracted with Alyx does G-man lose control of him again? Perhaps thats why he's suddenly interested in Alyx - perhaps she's not under the Vort's protection and he's interested in her for the same reason he's interested in Gordan - she's proved herself very useful in fighting the Combine and his his, uh, sponsors have sat up and taken notice?

The wildcard in all this of course is the Vorts - if they know about G-man and how to at least keep him at bay then how much more do they know?
 
Dr_Crowbar said:
Well, he gave Odessa Cubbage the rocket launcher and apparently told him how to take down the gunship, but that's just speculation. He did however closed the door in front of Shepard that led to Osprey. I am pretty sure he can interact with the environemnt, although he does have "certain restrictions" he has to abide to.
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He certainly can interact with the environment - he re-enabled the nuke that you disarmed as Shepard in Opposing Force.

If you count that as canon, of course.
 
So, how could any human 'employ' the g-man in the first place? It's not like greenbacks are very useful in the HL2 world.
 
This is a good question. In BM in HL1 I suspect it was because that noone knew that he was, well, the Gman, so Breen thought he was getting use out of this government spook type guy well in actual fact it's possible that the very opposite was true.

As for how he was 'paid' to release Gordon, well... I suspect it's the same mechanism. However people think they might be bargaining for Gordon's services, Gman could be in fact benefiting more from Gordon's activation than the very people who think they are 'employing' Gman for that favour actually are benefiting.
 
I have a distinct feeling that Gman obviously does not barter for cash or any other type of riches but he bargains with and for peoples services and unique skills. Take for instance Odessa, we *think* we see him discussing with Gman about the launcher on the coastal road. He was obviously wanting the old scroat to give the launcher to Gordon so he can take out the Gunship(s) this means to me that he needed Cubbage to play ball.

I have a feeling the all he wants is people with unique skills. Alyx, like Gordon is an extemely talented woman, nearly if not just as talanted as Gordon himself, so of course he wants to keep her alive and safe so she and Gordon can do what needs to be done for Gman and his employers. Gordon can do it himself, but hell why not have insurance as well?

Gman baters in people, nothing else.
 
Maybe he saved Alyx from BM because he foresaw her assisting Gordon at the citadel. After she and Gordon destroyed it (which conceivably would have been impossible for Gordon to do on his own), the G-man no longer had any use for her... until he wanted her to deliver his message.
 
I think g-man is the angel of death in some way

*don't get on to me I just bought,finish and plained eps 1,2*
 
alyx must die in episode 3

hey there,

i write this letters just to feel better. no answer to me is needed.

after i've done episode 2 yesterday i wasn't felling very well because i felt a little in love with alyx while playing the game (wow im 23 and psychic in good standing, i thought). i'm not really stupid and to close up with her (i know theres no future for us ;) )and this hl2-story nothing is better than her death. i think the best scenario is like in half life 1 a horrible, important decision gordon have to make.

i think it can be a "save alyx and the world will be destroyed (gordon and alyx included) or save the world but alyx must die (maybe with some last words on there lips "gordon save the world, i love you..")-scenario".
just a martyrdom. such a heroic death will make my misery much easier and i can forget this wonderfull woman, looking for hl3.

greetings, nachti (from germany :p)

PS: sry for my english. maybe its not sooo good..
 
nachti said:
hey there,

i write this letters just to feel better. no answer to me is needed.

after i've done episode 2 yesterday i wasn't felling very well because i felt a little in love with alyx while playing the game (wow im 23 and psychic in good standing, i thought). i'm not really stupid and to close up with her (i know theres no future for us ;) )and this hf2-story nothing is better than her death. i think the best scenario is like in half life 1 a horrible, important decision gordon have to make.

i think it can be a "save alyx and the world will be destroyed (gordon and alyx included) or save the world but alyx must die (maybe with some words on there lips "gordon save the world, i love you..")-scenario".
just a martyrdom. such a heroic death will make my misery much easier and i can forget this wonderfull woman, looking for hl3.

greetings, nachti (from germany :p)

PS: sry for my english. maybe its not sooo good..
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Alles in Ordnung. ;)
 
Laivasse said:
This is a good question. In BM in HL1 I suspect it was because that noone knew that he was, well, the Gman, so Breen thought he was getting use out of this government spook type guy well in actual fact it's possible that the very opposite was true.

As for how he was 'paid' to release Gordon, well... I suspect it's the same mechanism. However people think they might be bargaining for Gordon's services, Gman could be in fact benefiting more from Gordon's activation than the very people who think they are 'employing' Gman for that favour actually are benefiting.
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Yeah, a simple explanation for how the GMan first got his foot in the door isn't hard. A guy comes up and offers you the purest example of exactly the crystal you need and no matter how dubious you may be you're likely to want to know more. If he asks for anything in return it's likely that it seems, as you say, they they are getting the better part of the deal.
I'm also game to think that no matter how the G might manipulate things for other powers, he's likely to be able to take advantage.
That fits in well with the HL1 encounter and potentialy the HL2 one too.
 
I think G-man is quite misunderstood, from what i've seen, he clearly wants to get rid of the Combine, but does it in such an encrypted and tricky way we find suspicious or rather secret-like...Or something in that direction
 
I still think that Alyx is of no practical use in G-man's primary plan. As we can see, G-man left Alyx to death in the citadel explosion. Alyx is somewhat an insurance. If everything goes as the plan, Alyx is useless. However, if something goes awry, for example, G-man lost control of Gordon, "Plan B" will be executed. That is, Alyx is applied to drag Gordon back to control. Or if the safety of G-man himself is threatened, he has to pull the string.
 
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