Half-Life 2 on AMD or Intel?

[Tiddalick]

I always buy with Intel.
Why you ask?

1.Intel is the industry leader in inovation (they don't just throw in more transistors and set the throttle on high)
2.There website is very informative about current progress and about the research they are undertaking. AMD basically has no website

Obviously if you don't care in the slightest then its your own preference to buy

There will come a time when inovation is very important and not just good engineering. Intel recently released the development of the 65nm transistors and they have basically reached the limit of where scaling down will do anything (heat issues, quantum mechanical effects such as electron tunneling). If they are to continue to produce better chips then they have to start looking elsewhere other then just scaling down.
They developed the concept of strained silicon as well as many other things. All of which can be read in the research section of their website.

 

[sHm0zY]

2600+ =d

 

[Aceallways]

1- INTEL P4

2- kill yourself immediately

3- WAY TO MUCH CRAP ON THE FORUMS!!!

 

[poseyjmac]

1- INTEL P4

2- kill yourself immediately

3- WAY TO MUCH CRAP ON THE FORUMS!!!

such irony in #3.

p4s are more expensive, and don't deliver the performance in GAMES that a64's can. if you are a gamer its a really simple choice.

 

[smsKONG]

...I'm not sure what else to say to make it any clearer, I've quoted where you said it. :|

Here's a direct link if you want...

ROFL

Cybernoid's gone alll quiet.......

 

[Asus]

I'm surprised this sucker hasn't got transfered to Hardware yet.

CPUs and the system can make a pretty big different depending on the game. Right now AMD's Athlon 64 CPUs will give you the best performance and they have been dropping the price as well.

The 3500+ would be a good buy because of a few reasons but one of them is that it has dropped in price by quite a bit!

AMD"s Athlon 64/Opteron CPUs are 64bit but you need a 64Bit OS to take advantage of them in that regard. What you are seeing make the Athlon 64 perform so well is a combination of things but the main one is it's memory controller.

Normally, the memory controller is located on a different chip far from the CPU but the Athlon 64 has it's memory controller right on the CPU. It runs at the speed of the CPU and has very low latency (responds very quickly).

I linked to some CPU benchmarks here.

 

[kaellinn18]

The 64-bit feature of a processor isn't just "tacked on." (Which why by looking at early die plots of the Prescott, some individuals were able to determine that it had x84-64.) Adding 64-bit affects the entire architecture of the processor. I'm not going to go into details but there are general pipeline, cache, and memory improvements with the K8.

For instance, compared to the K7, the branch predictor has been reworked. A few other things I can think of at the moment... the integer scheduler has more entries, 32-bit integer multiply is faster, translation look-aside buffers latencies are lower, DRAM latency is much lower (due to the on die memory controller), the FSB runs at core speed, et cetera et cetera.

Combine all of this and you'll see for instance, that the Athlon 64 2800+ outperforms the XP 3200+ is nearly all benchmarks.

Thank you for your reply. That was very informative.

 

[retrofitter]

I always buy with Intel.
Why you ask?

1.Intel is the industry leader in inovation (they just throw in more transistors and set the throttle on high)
2.There website is very informative about current progress and about the research they are undertaking. AMD basically has no website

Fixed.

 

[Asus]

I always buy with Intel.
Why you ask?

1.Intel is the industry leader in inovation (they don't just throw in more transistors and set the throttle on high)

Who brought out X86-64, NUMA, double the number of General Purpose Registers, Onboard memory controller, Hypertransport, Cool&Quiet all in their current chips? Things that really can be put to use now and offer realistic benefits.

I wouldn't say Intel is the leader in inovation currently for anything except Notebooks. They have been in the past though.

Is AMD the new Intel?

 

[Cybernoid]

ROFL

Cybernoid's gone alll quiet.......

Unlike an unwashed nerd such as yourself, I don't have the time to sit here 24/7, hitting the refresh button every ten seconds.

 

[nutsak]

Or do research on the topic at hand before you post it seems.

 

[retrofitter]

Is AMD the new Intel?

As the one company delivering stable, affordable processors for everything from home computers to eight-way servers, AMD looks like a modern-day, more enlightened Intel. Intel has remade itself more than once and won’t allow itself to stay, if only in perception, a step behind AMD. But AMD won’t ever kowtow to Intel again. And IT will never again be forced to submit to the price and technological power that Intel unilaterally decides the market needs.

AHAHA, this leads me to believe that intel supporters are a bunch of idiots.
Looking at that timeline, it appears that not really that much has happened... It makes you forget the process shrinkages and new steppings that have come out..

 

[Alec_85]

That's it I'm definitely getting an AMD64 3200+ (or more) as my next computer/processor. weeee.

 

[Just Smurfen]

"so this will run on my 486?"

oh come on, somebody had to say it

 

[JPack]

"so this will run on my 486?"

oh come on, somebody had to say it

If it's a DX, then you're in luck. If it's a 486SX, then no.

 

[Lanthanide]

"But it ran my spreedsheet so well"

God that guy was a dick, and had such a geeky voice.

 

[DEATH eVADER]

Um... FSB... cache's.. overall architecture... yeah.. cpus do make differences in games.

You won't see Valve running HL2 at E3 on a Celeron processor.

Or a Cyrix processor for that matter

 

[kaellinn18]

Or a Cyrix processor for that matter

Whoa...old school.

 

[VoiD]

well i went and bought myself an a64 and it flies.. but then i won a p4 3.2 and i clocked that to 3.9 with watercooling, and it seems to beat the a64 speedwise still they both fly and i dont think there would be a big difference between top end cpu's with performance in hl2