Half life 2 vs Deus ex 2

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Half life 2 vs Deus ex

I downloaded the deus ex 2 demo thinking oh yay! this is going to be so cool. Install it and my first impression was good, I saw the graphics of the environment around me and thought hey this might not be half bad.... then i played it for about 20 seconds.... the reason i am vs it against hl2 is the graphics are around par of hl2 and then general game play seems to be there to.

1first physics, the physics are "fair". Not bad, it's nice that so many things are interactive, but everything is as light as paper and everything appears to be the same weight. Also picking up really heavy things is possible and does not even slow your speed.

2then hl2 physics, though ofcourse none of us have played it, we can tell bye the videos and information the weights are all different and very very impressive so ofcourse half life 2 wins there.

1graphics, this game actually has pretty good graphics, the environment and lighting is not bad at all. The faces yuck, expecially the main character... which i would think they would have spent the most time on. bodys pretty good on some characters.

2Hard to say about environment i think they are about on the same level except hl2 has better water/fire/ while things like lighting walls color seem to be better in deus ex. The faces in hl2 totally blow deus ex away and the bodys much better too.

1AI, deus ex has really REALLY bad AI, i mean wow... its just dumb and i think that is what made it so not fun :\

2hl2 du, probably best AI ever :)

1gameplay... its not so great, very slow and not so exciting, it really depends upon what type of game your looking for but it really just wasn't very indepth or impressive.

2The game play of hl2 looks extremely impressive, atleast half in your face :), and explosions etc etc hehe.

Characters and enemies for deus ex= crap

hl2= wins!






in conclusion... dissapointed because ithought deus ex would be around hl2 but guess it wasn't :\
 
If Deus Es is as good as Half-Life 2 then I am not buying Half-Life 2. Deus Ex was one of the worst games I have played in a while (IMO). Want a game thats good, BUY "Chaser" that is one of the few games that I believe can compete with Half-Life 2 (IMO) Good Story, graphics, music, gameplay, ETC.
 
As much as I dislike "My game's dick is bigger than your game's dick" threads, I'll stick with Half-Life 2 thanks very much. I've never liked Deus Ex and I didn't like the new demo that recently came out.:hmph:
 
i played deus ex demo...i thought the graphics sucked compared to hl2...lol...i dont have a junky computer either...top of da line....


hey yatta...i miss super trooper ;(
 
Now this is hardly fair

Half life 2 vs Some shat xbox port demo

Hmm, I wonder who wings

Sigh.. Deux Ex 2.. could of been so much more then a shat xbox port

please note: DE2 comes out in about 3 weeks time, so people who say "Its just a demo, Maybe the full games better" Shut up right now :cheese:
 
Originally posted by ph34r t3h cute
Now this is hardly fair

Half life 2 vs Some shat xbox port demo

Hmm, I wonder who wings

Sigh.. Deux Ex 2.. could of been so much more then a shat xbox port

please note: DE2 comes out in about 3 weeks time, so people who say "Its just a demo, Maybe the full games better" Shut up right now :cheese:
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well...the demo could of been an older build of the game (I'm not saying this as a Deux Ex fan either, I've never played the game. (i had to look at your post for the spelling)). But...I see your point, chances are the final version won't be much better....
 
Lol, you know the DX:IW guys are saying the same exact thing about HL2? Anyway, I don't see how you can even compare them. They aren't even the same type of game (and HL2 isn't even out yet). The points of focus as far as gameplay goes are completly different.

Ion Storm made a lot of risky decisions when they put DX:IW together and I think they are working out nice. Once you get past the unconventional elements (universal ammo, no reloading, etc.) the game is enjoyable. Sure, there are flaws but they can be easily corrected in patches.
 
The graphics in DE2 are horrendous. The textures are low quality, the character models are extremely low poly without a hint of the normal mapping the devs were going on about, and the doorknobs are malformed cubes. What the hell is the Bloom effect? The only thing it's got doing for it are decent shadows, but not Doom 3 caliber by any means.

I am outraged that anyone would even try to pit these two games together.
 
Originally posted by iamironsam
The graphics in DE2 are horrendous. The textures are low quality, the character models are extremely low poly without a hint of the normal mapping the devs were going on about, and the doorknobs are malformed cubes. What the hell is the Bloom effect? The only thing it's got doing for it are decent shadows, but not Doom 3 caliber by any means.

I am outraged that anyone would even try to pit these two games together.
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The graphics in the original DX were pretty bad as well but that's not why people played it. They played it for the open ended gameplay. They played it because you weren't restricted by the developers idea of how you should be playing their game. Graphics aren't the only point of comparison.
 
deus ex 2 is nothing but another crappy xbox game that happens to be made for pc to......

btw.....the first game is right up there with HL for best fps's of all time.

tis a shame

/me cries
 
Originally posted by iamironsam


I am outraged that anyone would even try to pit these two games together.
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Get a life jack ass, i will pit them together if I want to. Its not like there is anything else to talk about any way.
 
Originally posted by Grimresfa
Get a life jack ass, i will pit them together if I want to. Its not like there is anything else to talk about any way.
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Sure there is.. such as..

What kind of shampoo does Gordon use?
 
Deus Ex 2 will be a great game. It has very little to do with HL2 and I don't think a comparison makes much sense but I have no problem if that's what you want to do. Anyways....
I liked the demo. Playing it at 640X480 with all detail high looks best and plays best on my computer (get used to low resolutions, Doom3 is comming out). Unlike HL2, Deus Ex probably is not as refined as a shooter- controls, movement, weapons, enemies, etc. But Deus Ex isn't a shooter. Deus Ex also won't have an authored experienced but a nearly free-roaming one. I think that will work well if, as the demo suggested, they pack lots of neat stuff into the environments. I've beaten the demo in three different ways and it was pretty fun. Most of all, though, I love the atmsophere of the game. It has that Deus Ex/ Thief bizarre sense of style, lots of characters, things to read about a pretty neat background.
I can't judge by the demo because demos generally concentrate on the basic features or gimmicks of the game (graphics, physics, vehicles, MP2 bullet time, etc.) but Deus Ex's strongest point will be the content in the game (and that can't all come with the demo).
 
before the DX:IW demo comes out,people all think that'll be a great game.

so what about Half-Life2? will the game disappoint us when it release? who knows.
 
Originally posted by ZQW
before the DX:IW demo comes out,people all think that'll be a great game.

so what about Half-Life2? will the game disappoint us when it release? who knows.
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Not in the ways Deus Ex 2 did. We've seen HL2's movement, it's nice and responsive. We've seen that the physics work properly and that there is some good AI. The graphics are way better. The damage seems to be good, not 500 headshots=1 kill like DX2. The only place I think it could possibly come up short is the story and consistancy. But I doubt it ;)
 
Originally posted by ElFuhrer
Not in the ways Deus Ex 2 did. We've seen HL2's movement, it's nice and responsive. We've seen that the physics work properly and that there is some good AI. The graphics are way better. The damage seems to be good, not 500 headshots=1 kill like DX2. The only place I think it could possibly come up short is the story and consistancy. But I doubt it ;)
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the AI is not there,all vids of Half-Life2 right now are scripted.

the develope team said they expected the AI reached the same level as the E3 movie demostrated,good luck to them.
 
Originally posted by ZQW
the AI is not there,all vids of Half-Life2 right now are scripted.
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That's completely false, please don't start up this arguement again.
 
Re: Half life 2 vs Deus ex

Originally posted by Grimresfa
Half life 2 vs Deus ex
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wow thats about as offbalanced as HL2 vs BF1942 (lol at the steelhead)
 
Originally posted by ZQW
the AI is not there,all vids of Half-Life2 right now are scripted.
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Wow. You really believe this? Sad if you do.

Edit: Quoting ElFuhrer for emphasis

Originally posted by ElFuhrer
That's completely false, please don't start up this arguement again.
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Originally posted by Shuzer
Wow. You really believe this? Sad if you do.
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Mind tell me why you dont believe this?
Some of my friends told me this after they played the leaked version.
IMO they didn't see the AI just because hackers merely got a small portion of the source code.
 
Different team size, different budget, different relationship with publisher, different development time.

Cannot comparethese games.
 
Originally posted by ZQW
the AI is not there,all vids of Half-Life2 right now are scripted.

the develope team said they expected the AI reached the same level as the E3 movie demostrated,good luck to them.
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OMG. It must be false.
 
If you can't compare Deus Ex: Invisible War with Half-Life 2, you might as well not compare any games, ever.

You CAN compare them. I fail to see how Half-Life 2 is so radically different from DX: Invisible War that they can't be compared. The basics for each game are the same. They're first person shooters, they have enemy AI that does things, and they have levels you walk around in.

To say you can't compare the two games is ridiculous.
 
Just to add: The original Deus Ex game was very similar to Half-Life in a lot of areas. It even had a crowbar.
 
You CAN compare them. I fail to see how Half-Life 2 is so radically different from DX: Invisible War that they can't be compared. The basics for each game are the same. They're first person shooters, they have enemy AI that does things, and they have levels you walk around in.

To say you can't compare the two games is ridiculous.
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Hey. why don't you read my last post?

1. Valve's team is big
2. They are higher paid
3. They have had 5 years (or more)
4. They are self-funded with money from HL1 - enabling them to be more free-form and organic in development
5. They are able to pick and choose publishers
6. They are using thier own tech

1. Deus Ex's team is smaller
2. They have more less experienced, lower paid staff
3. They have had 3 years (less if you consider the PS2 port of DE1)
4. They are owned by a financially weak publsher (Eidos), and have significantly less money and are held to a strict milestone schedule
5. See above
6. Licensed tech from Epic.

You simply cannot under any circumstances expect the level of polish and quality of content in a game like Deus Ex 2 as you can HL2.
 
Originally posted by $niper
If you can't compare Deus Ex: Invisible War with Half-Life 2, you might as well not compare any games, ever.

You CAN compare them. I fail to see how Half-Life 2 is so radically different from DX: Invisible War that they can't be compared. The basics for each game are the same. They're first person shooters, they have enemy AI that does things, and they have levels you walk around in.

To say you can't compare the two games is ridiculous.
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They're both sequels to an award winning game with loads of fans. They both promise(d) a new standard in gaming, at least the communities did after seeing screens and movies, and you can compare the use of certain technologies such as Havok engine.

But in my opinion there is a huge difference in gameplay. As said before, Deus Ex IW does not solely focus on action and shooting. You can finish the whole game without killing anyone, so a vast amount of cheating, bribing, hacking is needed. You have to pay attention to the things NPC's say and what is written in books in the game. Of course you don't have to, and you can blast everything that moves.

Furthermore the non-linearity of the game was and hopefully will be really great. The sense of being in an immense world was truly unique in that time.

Not that Half Life 2 will not have these things, but the general focus will be on the action and not on the role playing aspect.

So in short, you can compare the two but you have to be specific about the parts that you can compare, at least that's my idea.


EDIT: forgot the quote
 
So they have different engines and different team sizes.

That means they can't be compared? That's a load of crap, buddy.
 
so you're saying we can compare the games and the companies?
because money and recources don't say a whole lot
 
Originally posted by DeusEx2
But in my opinion there is a huge difference in gameplay. As said before, Deus Ex IW does not solely focus on action and shooting. You can finish the whole game without killing anyone, so a vast amount of cheating, bribing, hacking is needed. You have to pay attention to the things NPC's say and what is written in books in the game. Of course you don't have to, and you can blast everything that moves.
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Have you even played the Invisible War demo? Apparently not. Deus Ex: Invisible War is most definitely not anything even close to what the original was. What you gave was a description of the great Deus Ex 1.
 
So basically, in order to compare games, you expect them to be rip-offs of each other.

What games would you consider comparable?
 
Originally posted by $niper
Have you even played the Invisible War demo? Apparently not. Deus Ex: Invisible War is most definitely not anything even close to what the original was. What you gave was a description of the great Deus Ex 1.
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Dude chill out with the wise ass remarks. Of course I've played the demo and like many others I was disappointed (well at least a bit). But that doesn't mean that the basic gameplay has changed. You can still bribe, cheat, hack and all those things I mentioned in the demo and the final game but the look and feel of the demo is different than the original, yes.
 
I'm sorry. I'm just so against people that say games can't be compared "because of this and this."

"This game has 50 levels and this game over here has 25 levels. They can't be compared! The style of gameplay is totally different! blah blah"

I like reading the comparisons people make between two separate games, and when people step in to say "The games can't be compared! nar nar nar! they're different beyond belief!" it kills off a good thread.
 
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