Half Life 2 V's Far Cry V's Doom 3

[Cukel]

There was actually about 1-4 pre-desinged routes in the maps to go, everywhere else was cliffs or water or too much supersighted enemies.

As opposed to Hl2 which NEVER had more than one route? At least half crys areas were open, it dosnt always feel like you were on a rail but they have to limit you in some ways.

I agree, it was alot better than HL2 in that matter and linearity did irritate me most in HL2. In Far Cry the level design pretended you could go anywhere, but you actually couldnt. So that sucked.

 

[MiccyNarc]

HL2>FarCry> Doom III.

I enjoyed Far Cry quite a bit..played it through twice.

 

[jondy]

To Crytek's credit, coming up with something like FarCry was genius. They didn't have the budget that Valve and Id had, but they pulled off a hell of a game. I loved it. Only thing that pissed me off were those damn tridgens. The little ones with the claws scared the shit outof me. Plus they could swipe at you from waaaay back and still score a hit.

Hl2 clearly owns both tho'. Id should be ashamed of themselves for the mediocrity that was Doom3. But then, it was fun for a while.

 

[pr0nking]

Bit of a biased forum to paste this in maybe?

 

[wadee]

I played the 3 games and this is what i think:
well
Half-life 2 is the best of 'em all overall
but Farcry doesnt come close
If i have to review I'd give Half-Life 2 a 10, FarCry 9.0 and Doom3 8.5.

Half-Life 2:
GFX: call me crazy but overall its the best out of the 3 coz of the facial animation actually the overall animations are top notch.
the water effects are the best (even better than FC's)
but shadows wise it was average.
Weapons: models and variety wise are the best.
Story: The best no doubt not a dull moment.
Sound: some ppl hated the music but i loved it the sound effects were top notch, voice acting was perfect.
Value: The multiplayer disappointed me personally though now i love HL2: DM but the whole package is better than the rest
AI: good.

FarCry:
GFX: I think its the "worst" looking between the three though the models were great and the animation kinda sucked.
The water effects were kinda cartoonish in my eyes, better than HL2 in shadows wise.
Weapons: I think the weapons choice was little weak not as
varied as it should've been.
Sound: voice acting was maybe the worst in a video game, the music and effects were nice.
Story: nice one.
Value: the SP long enough the MP weak.
AI: the best.

Doom3:
GFX: i loved the textures work, the fire effects the best ever, animation were good (the monsters) not so much on the humans
best shadows work ever.
Weapons: plasma gun was outstanding the others were great, I loved the arsenal which brough alot of memories.
Sound: good voice acting great effects loved the background music.
Story: they tried to do something the game boring at the middle and it felt liked i wanted to be scared the game isnt that much.
Value: good SP weak MP
AI: monsters AI...

 

[Kazuki_Fuse]

For me, I thought FarCry was a pretty average game. If I were to rate it, I'd give it a 65%. By the end of it I felt forced to pass the game because I spent so many hours on it already. After the initial wow by the graphics early on, it soon after felt like a chore to play.

The controls felt sluggishly slow, especially for how fast the enemies moved. The enemies were generic army guys that I've killed countless times in other games. The vehicles were given to the player in parts of the game where you couldn't build up much speed, it was much like taking a driving test. The voice acting was abysmal. The graphics were plastic. It just seemed like a graphics engine with a game attached to it for me. That's why I chose HL2, I did love Doom3 too, but HL2 is the complete game for me.

 

[MiccyNarc]

The little ones with the claws scared the shit outof me.

I know what you're saying, I was more terrified by that them than I was of ravenholm.
I started screaming when I learned they could jump..the hard way

 

[Jadewolf5675]

Looks like this place hasn't changed much!

 

[dogboy73]

Looks like this place hasn't changed much!

How do you mean?

 

[MjM]

laugh. in a hl fansite

 

[Yombi]

Looks like this place hasn't changed much!

Hm, well considering this is a Half-life 2 community, i'd expect some biased oppinion's. I wouldn't even bring up this matter in a Doom 3 forum

NOTE: I enjoy many other games

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

It's funny from a technical standpoint it seems farcry outshines all, but the dev team really has done nothing to stand by it, it's really sad to see something so amazing literally stoped in it's tracks. Patches are slim to none and delayed constantly, multiplay is uninspired and laggy, source code samples are not given.

 

[Venmoch]

Mind you Far Cry did have the most memorable line from Far Cry!

"Doyle! My arm is turning green!"

 

[dogboy73]

Mind you Far Cry did have the most memorable line from Far Cry!

"Doyle! My arm is turning green!"

LOL. Some of the dialogue in Far Cry is cringe makingly bad. Especially from the mercs.

"I'm gonna tear ya a new one"

"How da ya like those apples?"

:E

Not to mention your characters voice acting which is appaling. If Far Cry had HL2's dialogue & character animation & HL2 had Far Cry's expansive maps with no 'loading' screen during each level (How did they manage that?) & multiple ways of completing most levels (Certainly the outdoor lelvels), Both games would be considerably better.

I've just been playing the Rebellion level in Far Cry. It's amazing! The level is absolutely massive & there are so many routes to get to your objective it's untrue! There are at least 4 roads, Several mountain paths (That require a bit of climbing!), Underground tunnels through mountains & even hand gliders! There's one island that has loads of goodies on it but you can only reach it by hand glider. You get back to the main island by sliding down a cable ride to a beach ................. Not that many people here will be interested

 

[yadalogo]

Hl2 has the most technically ingenious engine. Then d3 then fracry. Hl2 is the only game outa the three where if u squint your eyes you think your looking at a real photo. Hl2 just tops both the other games. It had so much atmosphere in it, you really fealt like you were in those situations and fighting for a purpose not jsut to beat the next part like d3 and farcry. Dont even mention the sound effects. They were so dead on and realistic as well as the world sounds, you could just sit there close your eyes without even looking at the monitor and just hearing the atmospheric sounds you could get a mental image of where you were like what kind of place. And then there are the mods. D3 has the flashlight ductape mod.....yay. If you say that Hl2 is easy just download the latest substance mod. Neither of the other 2 games will ever have anything nearly fun as gary's mod v6. Who doesnt love building what is ever on your mind with people online and blow it up or do whatever you want with it. D3 did lok pretty nice though at time. Sadly It was so taxing on your copmuter that they had to make each area so small because they crammed in alotta detail. 1 Hl2 map equals 4 doom maps id say and they are so dark to the point where its like your just traveling in one long empty dark box. Then there is FarCry. I downloaded the demo played it for 10 minutes then uninstalled it. I dont see what all of you guys liked about it. The gameplay was just so simple to the point where it wasnt even fun for me anymore where as in Hl2 was on the edge of my seat teh whole time. I wont even start on D3's gameplay. Sooooooooo overall. Half-Life 2 > Raw Sewage > Doom3 > Getting Cancer > FarCry.

 

[Sparta]

LOL. Some of the dialogue in Far Cry is cringe makingly bad. Especially from the mercs.

"I'm gonna tear ya a new one"

"How da ya like those apples?"

:E

Not to mention your characters voice acting which is appaling. If Far Cry had HL2's dialogue & character animation & HL2 had Far Cry's expansive maps with no 'loading' screen during each level (How did they manage that?) & multiple ways of completing most levels (Certainly the outdoor lelvels), Both games would be considerably better.

I've just been playing the Rebellion level in Far Cry. It's amazing! The level is absolutely massive & there are so many routes to get to your objective it's untrue! There are at least 4 roads, Several mountain paths (That require a bit of climbing!), Underground tunnels through mountains & even hand gliders! There's one island that has loads of goodies on it but you can only reach it by hand glider. You get back to the main island by sliding down a cable ride to a beach ................. Not that many people here will be interested

Thats the main reason why i like Far Cry's level design over HL2's. More stuff to do and see. Always a good thing. And yeah, dialogue and the storyline in Far Cry are perhaps the worst two things i've ever seen in a game.

 

[Pai-Mei]

And yeah, dialogue and the storyline in Far Cry are perhaps the worst two things i've ever seen in a game.

To be fair, I think the dialogue in Far Cry is supposed to be satirical.

"I'm gonna shoot you in the face!"

Its like a game that is made for kids, so that kids can enjoy the good wholesome values associated with mass killing without the negatives of objectionable language. I really found it funny, and hearing the Merc dialogue always brought a smile to my face. OBVIOUSLY Crytec knows that Mercs would be swearing their brains out, yelling out obscenities... but its a GAME so they try and keep it as clean as possible, save the action. So the Mercs fit in to any good 12-year olds action movie by providing the cheesiest one-liners ever. Genius!

As for the storyline... well... I'm still not really sure why a boat driver is acting as a hired hit man for some guy he's never met...

 

[DarkStar]

^^ Yeah, I always thought Far Cry was SUPPOSED to be kinda tounge-in-cheek as well.

 

[DarkStar]

By the way, how do you guys think Riddick stacks up?

If I had to rank it in I'd put it second:

HL2>Riddick>Far Cry>Doom 3

 

[jet jaguar]

I'm a sucker for open-ended gameplay design so while I love HL2, Far Cry does more than enough right to atleast earn a tie.

HL2/Far Cry > Riddick > Doom 3

 

[DarkStar]

I've just been playing the Rebellion level in Far Cry. It's amazing! The level is absolutely massive & there are so many routes to get to your objective it's untrue! There are at least 4 roads, Several mountain paths (That require a bit of climbing!), Underground tunnels through mountains & even hand gliders! There's one island that has loads of goodies on it but you can only reach it by hand glider. You get back to the main island by sliding down a cable ride to a beach ................. Not that many people here will be interested

Yeah, Rebellion was by far the best level in Far Cry. I've played through that one about 4 times. Never the same way twice.

 

[Sars]

Why do you even bother to post stupid threads like these......

you, are a ****in loser... why bother coming to forums?? stfu

 

[sk0aL]

All of you people complaining about the topic need to get the stick out of your ass. If you don't like the thread then just pass on.

Back on topic, I recently reinstalled FarCry after I upgraded my vid card and it's a damn fine game. The way you're able to pick your approach to the game is cool. It's fun to use the audio binoculars and scout areas ahead to hear what the mercs are saying, count their numbers, then decide what you're gonna do. This feature shows how awesome the CryEngine can render outdoor environments. You need serious hardware to run the game, however.

My only complaint about the game is the bland weapon models and the overpowered Trigens.

Doom 3 was a great game IMO not because of the gameplay but because of the production value. The game was beautiful and great because of what it aimed to do, which was give you an interactive horror movie.

HL2 is in a league of it's own though, and as fun, pretty and compelling as FarCry is I don't think it comes close to surpassing HL2. You also have to remember that FarCry was released many months before Doom3 and HL2, and caught many people by surprise.

 

[dogboy73]

Yeah, Rebellion was by far the best level in Far Cry. I've played through that one about 4 times. Never the same way twice.

I just replayed to the end of Rebellion where that huge battle is going off between Mercs & Trigens. I watched from the top of a mountain, from what seemed like half a mile away, As the Trigens kicked the marine's arses! Not wanting to take my chances with the Trigens (A fight I could not have won by just steaming in guns blazing) I opted to take a hand glider that I'd found on the top of a mountain & swoop in over their heads! Gracefully gliding in right over the top of all that carnage below in order to reach my destination has to be one of the most sublime moments I've witnessed in a computer game

 

[Ownzed]

Why do people post these things when we all know who is going to win..after all it is the best game and this is a hl2 forum..

 

[Rachel Powers]

Far cry is the most technically superior out of them all. Half-life 2 uses BSP trees which were obsolete about 4 years ago. Doom 3 is just ugly, low res textures. But hl2 was the most fun and was just an overall better game.

 

[FireCrack]

Umm BSP is hardly obsolete. Can you name anything supirior?

 

[Sparta]

Far cry is the most technically superior out of them all. Half-life 2 uses BSP trees which were obsolete about 4 years ago. Doom 3 is just ugly, low res textures. But hl2 was the most fun and was just an overall better game.

Far Cry is technically superior to Doom 3?
How is it technically superior to Doom 3?

Ooooo this ougtha be good.

 

[Sparta]

^^ Yeah, I always thought Far Cry was SUPPOSED to be kinda tounge-in-cheek as well.

NOLF's dialogue was tongue-in-cheek. If Far Cry's dialogue was also tongue-in-cheek, then thats another thing it did really really bad.

 

[Rachel Powers]

Far Cry is technically superior to Doom 3?
How is it technically superior to Doom 3?

Ooooo this ougtha be good.

Uhh how is it not? The ability to render massive outdoor enviornments and indoor enviornments that make doom 3's look like an nes game. The only thing doom comes close with is character animation.

 

[Rachel Powers]

Umm BSP is hardly obsolete. Can you name anything supirior?

Are you kidding me? even voxels are more advanced. and they went out with delta force: land warrior.

 

[yadalogo]

Hl2 has the most technically ingenious engine. Then d3 then fracry. Hl2 is the only game outa the three where if u squint your eyes you think your looking at a real photo. Hl2 just tops both the other games. It had so much atmosphere in it, you really fealt like you were in those situations and fighting for a purpose not jsut to beat the next part like d3 and farcry. Dont even mention the sound effects. They were so dead on and realistic as well as the world sounds, you could just sit there close your eyes without even looking at the monitor and just hearing the atmospheric sounds you could get a mental image of where you were like what kind of place. And then there are the mods. D3 has the flashlight ductape mod.....yay. If you say that Hl2 is easy just download the latest substance mod. Neither of the other 2 games will ever have anything nearly fun as gary's mod v6. Who doesnt love building what is ever on your mind with people online and blow it up or do whatever you want with it. D3 did lok pretty nice though at time. Sadly It was so taxing on your copmuter that they had to make each area so small because they crammed in alotta detail. 1 Hl2 map equals 4 doom maps id say and they are so dark to the point where its like your just traveling in one long empty dark box. Then there is FarCry. I downloaded the demo played it for 10 minutes then uninstalled it. I dont see what all of you guys liked about it. The gameplay was just so simple to the point where it wasnt even fun for me anymore where as in Hl2 was on the edge of my seat teh whole time. I wont even start on D3's gameplay. Sooooooooo overall. Half-Life 2 > Raw Sewage > Doom3 > Getting Cancer > FarCry.

Repeat this to all of you!

 

[Cole]

For me....
Starcraft > Half-Life 2 > Farcry > Doom 3
Starcraft will always make me come back to it no matter how many times I will ever leave. It may not be a FPS, it may have never had anything real to advanced in it but it will always make me come back more than Half-Life 2 or Half-Life and all of there mods combined. 6 years I've played starcraft(many more to come)... not just a little every now and then...but alot all the time.

Farcry..just turned me off. The storyline and voice acting are.....over horrible!
Maybe once every 2 weeks I play it for an hour but thats it... I have to literally push myself into playing it. It is not my style of a game. It just....
I hate the AI in it. They have never done anything outstanding to me that I've never seen done in other games.
I mean hell I've had a load game and that load had a guy right next to me. He would keep on forward to the tree. Alot of times when I'd load from there I'd just skip him...he never sees me. Even though he is a 1/2 meter away from me.

I've been flanked..once or twice? I see lots of places where they could have flanked me..

The sniping distance is nice though and load times...other than that...

You must also remember.

Far Cry tried to accel at have very free places. Don't compare it to HL2 when HL2 did not try to accel at having very free places.

Far Cry did try to accell somewhat with its physics. But it simply failed at showing them..realistically. Most things felt like I was on Cs:S with low grav.

 

[Sparta]

Uhh how is it not? The ability to render massive outdoor enviornments and indoor enviornments that make doom 3's look like an nes game. The only thing doom comes close with is character animation.

Uh huh...except that the Doom 3 engine can also render massive enviroments with 100% realtime dynamic lighting. Whereas Far Cry uses the same kind of lighting HL2 uses outside and still has glitches with the shadows and what not then (Such as shadows not projecting onto world props such as trees and rocks).

And if you've ever played the Hell level in Doom 3, its quite obvious that the engine is way more powerful then any other engine out there. I got a steady 40 FPS with 800x600 on High in Doom 3 on the Hell level. I can't get a steady FPS in Far Cry even on the inside levels when i turn the graphics down to Medium.

And as for the outdoor enviroments, they're really good in Far Cry, but i can see the same thing in Medal Of Honor : Pacific Assault. Its pretty standard now.

 

[Boots]

I did not read through this whole thread, sorry it became to repetetive.

Nor sure why a debate gets so heated, I enjoyed both games, and they have there merits. I beat farcry on hardest skill level with no saves, and must admit it was quite the challenge. But honestly, the main character was corny and cliched, and kind of annoyed me.

I spent quite a bit of time on the Farcry forums, and one thing for sure, Ubisoft support really sucks. There were so many technical issues with that game that simply were not addressed.

Valve on the other hand, ensured HL2 would work on peoples comps irregardless of specs, and will consitently improve their release, and therefore strongly receive my vote. :thumbs:

 

[Ownzed]

I liked all 3 games. They were all fun. But the best was of course HL2 by far.

 

[FireCrack]

Voxels are incredibly slow rendering compared to BSP and they have major limitations as well as design issues. Colision takes longer to calculate.

Voxels realy havent shown promise at all.

 

[SsmitzZ]

neva played far cry i saw doom 3 an the flashlight put me off an i nearly beat my friend whowas playign it to death cuz i saw it plays out alot like half life HALF LIFE FOR LIFE MY HOMEYS

 

[dogboy73]

With regards to HL2's limited landscapes (In terms of exploration) & Far Cry's wide open vista's - It occured to me that HL2 contains really interesting settings that cry out to be explored but you can't. On the other hand Far Cry contains huge areas that you often can't be arsed to explore because it's basically all jungle & there's not a great deal of point ............ but you can if you so desire.

So if you put the 2 ideas together than have you got a winning formualr? In any case that sounds a bit like STALKER to me. I really hope STALKER delivers what it promises because if it does then this topic is going to be about HL2 V's STALKER V's Far Cry.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/stalker/index.html?q=STALKER

 

[Cole]

render massive enviroments with 100% realtime dynamic lighting.

"Massive"
I think that might be a tad to big...
How far I can see in farcry...and everything feels quite massive...
Can Doom 3 render farcry's outdoors with full realtime dynamic lighting?