Halo 2 fans

[HydraEater]

I'm also a member of bungie.net and read the forums there, and wow, are there serious Halo 2 fans. All of them say: "Halo 2 is way better," or "HL2 sucks." I was laughing and surprised at the same time. Some even said Halo 2 had better graphics. Wow, did I laugh. I think there's so many problems with Halo 2, and that people just have to admit: HL2 is, and always will be better than Halo 2. Has anyone else encountered this, or is a member of bungie.net?

 

[Crushenator 500]

Moved

 

[Glirk Dient]

Halo 2 is fun for lan parties...multiplayer is lame because theres not much skill, people move too slow and it is too easy to aim. It is all about playing smarter and not getting ganked, which is mostly luck about which team has more n00bs.

HL2 is by far the better game when it comes to single player and graphics, gameplay and fun. It is a lot funner than H2 and I played that far too long...longer than HL2 in fact.

 

[Warbie]

I prefer the atmosphere in HL2, but think the combat in Halo 2 is far more challenging and rewarding.

 

[Ames]

Opinons...opinons...

But if we must....

http://bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=3806273

i love half-life 2... but i dont like how i have to install steam to play. and maybe ill reinstall it later, but the weapons are all messed up. the shotgun in half-life 2 is as accurate as the -blam!- battle rifle in halo 2! it's rediculous! YOU COULD KILL A COMBINE SOLDIER FROM 25 FEET AWAY WITH A SINGLE SHOT! Realism? I think not. ill play if i feel like it which i do once in a while but i like halo 2 better. Although I love the blood splatter the combines leave after being blown away by the shotgun.

No...just no.

Otherwise, I'd like to keep my post the only one with even a hint of flaming. Don't stoop to the level of this post.

 

[Danimal]

Although I personally like Half-life 2 better (Hence, my membership here.) I think Halo 2 has it's ups too.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Halo 2 has a great MP. But its SP is just barely average. HL2's SP is above average the first two times then resides to average.

 

[Datrix]

Guess I'll just post this here:

I'm asking all Halo 2 Xbox Live players to please report any cheating in games that you play. It's a huge problem right now in the community. Cheating went from something you see almost never to something you see almost every day. If we all pressure Bungie they should start doing something about it. But, for now I would warn all players (especially those who play in clan matches) to be carefull, mostly when playing on the new maps, as these are the ones that get hacked the most. Or better yet just stay out of clan matches for the time being.

 

[Jintor]

You know what i FREAKING HATED about Halo? It was so damn dark in places, you couldn't see a damned thing, your flashlight was like some sort of wide laser-beam that didn't illuminate anything more than (a yard? Somewhere around there) in front of you, and... bah. Darkness blows, especially when it's so dark you can't tell where the enemies are.

Multiplayer is good though. But i still think the best part of Halo is RvB, or www.redvsblue.com

 

[Sparta]

I'm also a member of bungie.net and read the forums there, and wow, are there serious Halo 2 fans. All of them say: "Halo 2 is way better," or "HL2 sucks." I was laughing and surprised at the same time. Some even said Halo 2 had better graphics. Wow, did I laugh. I think there's so many problems with Halo 2, and that people just have to admit: HL2 is, and always will be better than Halo 2. Has anyone else encountered this, or is a member of bungie.net?

Yeah i agree. But with that said i didn't immediately set out to hate Halo 2 either, i actually tried to convince my Mum to let my younger bro go up to the stores at midnight to get the game when it first came out. Still Halo 2 did have its moments, the first few levels of the game were great fun, better then the first few levels of Half-Life 2 i'll say (I'm talking levels like Route Kanal and Water Hazard) but the second half of Halo 2 totally sucked compared to the second half of Half-Life 2. The second half of Half-Life 2 was one of the coolest gaming moments i've had in years.

I think only the hardcore fans of Halo who enjoyed playing the game through on Legendary would've enjoyed Halo 2 as much as the first. Fans like Warbie. Of course thats just my opinion, not fact.

 

[Foxtrot]

You know what i FREAKING HATED about Halo? It was so damn dark in places, you couldn't see a damned thing, your flashlight was like some sort of wide laser-beam that didn't illuminate anything more than (a yard? Somewhere around there) in front of you, and... bah. Darkness blows, especially when it's so dark you can't tell where the enemies are.

Multiplayer is good though. But i still think the best part of Halo is RvB, or www.redvsblue.com

Wrong game, you are thinking of Doom 3.

 

[French Ninja]

Halo 1 and 2:
Story: Ok, but not as good as Marathon. I hate the continuity errors. For example, the fact that the entire Earth forces were given new uniforms AND were given new guns in less than a month is utter bs. The assault rifle was used for a good 40 years. You can't instantly replace a primary weapon like that in a MONTH. But of course their community doesn't care....
Gameplay: Icky. I hate how it takes so many bullets to kill someone. And I hate the floaty jumps. >_<
Multiplayer: Ok I guess....for a console. I love how multiplayer is filled with 10 year olds who teamkill for fun.

 

[pvtbones]

is it just me or is the bungie forums insanely slow and I mean vomit inducing lag/slowness.

as for halo2 vs HL2, I felt the gameplay was good but the story was balls. the cliff hanger was horrible in that it left the player with absolutely no sense of closure (while HL2 left you with a sense of "I did it, I kicked breen's ass" and such). I don't have online so I can only comment on what me and my nephew play "warthog derby!" (I recommend it). the graphics were good but nothing compared to Hl2.

*edit* does the bungie forum have a search feature? I want to look up the hl2 vs H2 threads for kicks.

 

[Asknoone]

I prefer Half-life 2 by a long way, but, I still think Halo 2 was kinda fun. It had cool action set pieces, an alright story and some nice weapons. Didn't have a scratch on hl2 though

 

[Kangy]

Shens, that thread is horrible, radioactive fallout. I don't know where these people exist, but I hope they stay the hell away from me.

 

[Raxxman]

I'm sure my IQ just dropped 10 points by reading that.

 

[Asknoone]

Man, the Bungie forum sucks - plagued by retarded Halo fan boys.

 

[guchi]

In that thread it sounds like they actually think that Valve and Bungie are going to make a game together

I've probobly said this before, but halo2's singleplayer could have been the bomb if they didnt jump around to like a bajillion different places, I never got any sense of what I was doing... earth for the win!
and the playing as a covenant thing was bs, it would have been awesome if you fought marines, but no! you have to kill some covenant for some reason...

 

[<RJMC>]

this post show that they should be kids

hate Half-Life 2 due to its storyline inconsisties. It brought more questions and didn't answer anything of how the situation was made due to the Black Mesa Incident.

I love Half-Life 2 due to the graphical enhancements and physics implementation.

Valve figured that by working on the engine will get them more money than working harder on the storyline or online play.

Bungie did the complete opposite. They worked harder on the storyline and online play than they did for the engine (mostly online play though).

worked harder in the storyline? lol the halo2 storyline is very simple and I dont think bungie as worked hard to made it,and the online play dont look like something that should taked long time to made

also look the second page just cuz someone is posting ideas for a mix of a halo game and a halflife game another think that is hating halo2

 

[socK]

Halo has a storyline? Also, SP not fun in the least, it's like running around a giant maze with some floating platforms here and there. When I played the first Halo online I would just use the sniper rifle, it had a crosshair and I would just instantly (or almost) kill people with it. It's not a very good game, I dont see what people can like about it.

 

[Insano]

It is well known that Halo fans are pure fanboys who can't stand HL2.

Let it be

 

[guchi]

and its not like the part of the team that does the storyline does the engine too, I dont see how one can take resources from the other =/

 

[A True Canadian]

In that thread it sounds like they actually think that Valve and Bungie are going to make a game together

I've probobly said this before, but halo2's singleplayer could have been the bomb if they didnt jump around to like a bajillion different places, I never got any sense of what I was doing... earth for the win!
and the playing as a covenant thing was bs, it would have been awesome if you fought marines, but no! you have to kill some covenant for some reason...

I hear that. It felt like I was playing two games at once. There was no real conectivity to it. You kept changing characters and locations, 'till it got to the point where you weren't sure what the hell was going on. You have no idea how many times I kept shooting my own teamates because I forgot I was the Arbitor instead of the Master Chief (and vice versa).

With the first Halo game, I liked the story because it got more and more interesting as it went along. The story kept growing at a pace that made it enjoyable. With Halo 2, this wasn't the case. The storline gets going (and you're really into it) but then you switch characters, the excitement is lost, and the pacing need to build up again. Then as the new storyline becomes interesting, you switch again to the first character, but the only problem is that all the momentum that the first character's story had is now diminished. Then it became a case of building it up again and repeating the process. And of course once the stories finally connect and the oomph is finally achieved -the game ends. :rolling:

 

[Warbie]

It is well known that Halo fans are pure fanboys who can't stand HL2.

Let it be

And vice versa

 

[Absinthe]

IMO

HL2 was better than Halo 2 by miles.

Halo 2 was fun, but it was repetitive, samey (not a whole lot different from the first game), and ultimately disappointing. Although I do not necessarily regret purchasing it, I am completely baffled as to how this game be considered GOTY - let alone nominee - material when it's little more than a Halo 1.5. Dual weilding and vehicle jacking do not a great game make.

 

[JNightshade]

You guys are all hypocrites in a glorious state of denial... you have to realize that you're saying the exact same stuff about H2 that they're saying about HL2 (although I must concede that, from what I've seen, you tend to phrase it more eloquently). The problem is, nobody seems to have any REAL proof as to why Halo 2 or HL2 sucks... and the reason is that there is none! Things like floaty jumping, easy aiming, bizarre storyline, or even "accurate shotguns" are all really just matters of preference. It's all apples to oranges.Even graphics are a matter of opinion. Some people prefer more flashy, shiny graphics (Halo 2) whereas other prefer more subtle and understated visuals (HL2). We need to grow up and accept that different people have different opinions. But NO, you just CAN'T let the feud die, you need to start threads like this, and even worse, ENCOURAGE those who do! So I'm asking you politely now to stop, to end this hypocrisy and just enjoy the game that YOU like rather than ragging on the one you don't.

I mean, you don't spend your free time convincing orange lovers that apples are better, do you?

 

[WhiteZero]

I've had much fun playing Halo 2 with my friends, what little of it I've played.

/agrees with JNightshade

 

[Absinthe]

You guys are all hypocrites in a glorious state of denial... you have to realize that you're saying the exact same stuff about H2 that they're saying about HL2 (although I must concede that, from what I've seen, you tend to phrase it more eloquently). The problem is, nobody seems to have any REAL proof as to why Halo 2 or HL2 sucks... and the reason is that there is none! Things like floaty jumping, easy aiming, bizarre storyline, or even "accurate shotguns" are all really just matters of preference. It's all apples to oranges.Even graphics are a matter of opinion. Some people prefer more flashy, shiny graphics (Halo 2) whereas other prefer more subtle and understated visuals (HL2). We need to grow up and accept that different people have different opinions. But NO, you just CAN'T let the feud die, you need to start threads like this, and even worse, ENCOURAGE those who do! So I'm asking you politely now to stop, to end this hypocrisy and just enjoy the game that YOU like rather than ragging on the one you don't.

I mean, you don't spend your free time convincing orange lovers that apples are better, do you?

But, dude. Like, Halo 2 sooo blows donkey dick.

 

[A True Canadian]

I've never liked the idea of paying online fees for games, so I've avoided the Halo 2 multiplayer on XBox Live. The focus for me is always the single-player portions of games, which is why I'm disenchanted with Halo 2. It got the watered down treatment and felt slapped together.

For instance, they re-wrote the story from being on Earth to being on another halo. In one of the original segments, Keyes' daughter blames Master Chief for her fathers death, and straps a bomb to his back. She then tosses him in the sewer where an underground battle was to take place. Instead they took the bomb idea and condensed it into a cutscene that involves Master Chief planting the bomb on an alien spaceship.

The difference in the two games is that Half-Life 2 took a different route than Half-Life 1. In Half-Life you were on the inside trying to find a way out of the facility; in Half-Life 2 you were on the outside trying to find a way in (to the Citadel that is). In Halo you were on an alien ringworld trying to destroy it before it was used as a weapon; in Halo 2 you were on another alien ringworld trying to...destroy it before it was used as a weapon.


Good god look at how much I've written already. This was supposed to be a short 2 sentence reply.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Halo Books > Halo 2.

 

[Sparta]

For instance, they re-wrote the story from being on Earth to being on another halo. In one of the original segments, Keyes' daughter blames Master Chief for her fathers death, and straps a bomb to his back. She then tosses him in the sewer where an underground battle was to take place. Instead they took the bomb idea and condensed it into a cutscene that involves Master Chief planting the bomb on an alien spaceship.

Yeah my little brother told me about that, its a shame that was cut too, and the scene it was replaced with (master chief jumping out of a spaceship, defying the laws of physics and planting the bomb back in covenant ship) was the corniest scene i've seen in any game for quite a long time.

 

[AmishSlayer]

I KINDA feel the same way about Halo 2 as I do HL2.

Both felt like a step back to me. I liked the originals better for story, gameplay and MP (HL1 had Rocket Crowbar )

I just get angry when I think about how they screwed up Halo 2 and I'm just sad at how I feel they messed up HL2. Maybe each series will rectify various mistakes and come around with a solid 3rd title.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Whoa, HL2 story was way better than HL1. I mean, there was barely enough plot to even constitute there being the existence of a story in HL1.

 

[AmishSlayer]

Whoa, HL2 story was way better than HL1. I mean, there was barely enough plot to even constitute there being the existence of a story in HL1.

I could say the same for HL2...but I liked the setting and feel of HL1 better still. If HL2 played like the beginning of the game the entire way through it'd be 10x better. I just was much more immersed in HL1's environment.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Wow, you weren't immersed in HL2? I mean jeez, I really felt like I was in a dystopian society. Like, it was amazing.

 

[AmishSlayer]

Wow, you weren't immersed in HL2? I mean jeez, I really felt like I was in a dystopian society. Like, it was amazing.

The first 20 minutes I was immersed...but the rest felt too much like a game rather than an experience.

 

[Warbie]

Agreed. HL gave you a purpose and a character you could relate to.

HL2 turned Gordon into a generic fps protagonist and lacked any real direction. Still a good game, but not the classic the original was.

 

[Raxxman]

Thirded.

And unless Halo 2 comes to PC (or evil Warbie convinces me to get an xbox 360) I'll not play it.

 

[Asknoone]

Alot of people say your running around without any real direction in hl2...I've never felt that, your always told where your going *shrugs*

 

[Sparta]

Agreed. HL gave you a purpose and a character you could relate to.

HL2 turned Gordon into a generic fps protagonist and lacked any real direction. Still a good game, but not the classic the original was.

I kinda agree with that but at the same time i dont agree with that. In HL1 your purpose was to survive and you get caught up saving the world. In HL2 your purpose is to save the world.

Actually now that i think about it, in terms of storyline and story direction the Halo and Half-Life series follow similar paths. In the first games you're struggling to survive, and in the second games your saving the world/universe. Not to mention the first games are still the best.