Harry Potter movie 5!

I personally enjoy both books and the movies, but you have to seperate them and look at two seperate entities.
They can't possibly include every single aspect of the book in two and a half hours.
I enjoy the books but I don't absolutely adore them with all my heart (that's reserved for George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire ;), which they are adapting for HBO).

The thing that bugs me most, and this is nitpicking I suppose, is that Rowlying is really inconsistent with world building. The things that come to my mind is the legal system and the entire plot of Book 4. Why they would have a trial for Harry (or any wizard for that matter) when they have access to Veritaserum? Give 'em a sip, pop the question, case solved.

Or the fact that Voldemort stages an incredibly and needlessly convoluted plot to kidnap Harry in Book 4, when the book could have been ended in the first week of school with Moody/Crouch saying he has to talk to Harry after class and then giving him a stout whack to the head with a mallet.
I believe the justificiation for that is that Voldemort himself wanted to return using the Triwizard Cup portkey and wreak havoc at Hogwarts, but then, he still could have just walked there or used a broom after he was resurrected (which, as I said before, could have been done in the first week of school).

I think it's a credit to Rowling's writing though that I still like the books.
Oh, and by the way, I got to see the movie last Thursday. 'Twas excellent. :P
 
This actually doesn't look too bad. Can't be worse than Goblet surely.
 
Bah, books. Who needs books nowadays anyway? The special effects more than make up for the countless hours you would spend reading a book and imagining what it would actually look like in your head. Personally, movies are better and I don't care what anyone has to say in response. Movies might not have as much detail but at least you can actually see the spells and what have you.
 
ZeroPointGun said:
Bah, books. Who needs books nowadays anyway? The special effects more than make up for the countless hours you would spend reading a book and imagining what it would actually look like in your head. Personally, movies are better and I don't care what anyone has to say in response. Movies might not have as much detail but at least you can actually see the spells and what have you.
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I can't tell if you're joking or not.

Are you?
 
ZeroPointGun said:
Bah, books. Who needs books nowadays anyway? The special effects more than make up for the countless hours you would spend reading a book and imagining what it would actually look like in your head. Personally, movies are better and I don't care what anyone has to say in response. Movies might not have as much detail but at least you can actually see the spells and what have you.
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I'd rather read a book than watch a film anyday, and I'll say that against films that are amazing, like Saving Private Ryan or something. I just prefer them. But when it comes down to fantasy, like Harry Potter, I prefer to use my imagination for what everything/one looks like.

A good book will describe something or someone so well that the location or person they are on about will match the looks of said object in the film. Rowling and the directors of the Harry Potter films pulled this off pretty well - really well in places, like Snape - so alot of my expectations were match, but of course, some weren't, but you can't get everything to suit your own personal imagination. I've not come across a book that's terrible at chracter development, or at describing a location, so I've never realy became stumped on that front. But then, I read alot of Terry Pratchett, and that guy has some of the best locations and chracters ever in my opinion.
 
I knew someone would say that because everyone, well the majority, does.

It doesn't matter how much detail there is in a book, I'd rather spend $8 for a movie ticket, then $30 for a book.
 
ZeroPointGun said:
I knew someone would say that because everyone, well the majority, does.

It doesn't matter how much detail there is in a book, I'd rather spend $8 for a movie ticket, then $30 for a book.
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So, basically, you don't want to think.

Oh well.

Antipop - DARK IN HERE, ISN'T IT?
 
Movies>Books any day IMHO

I usually hate the fantasy genre but in this case I actually liked the first 3 movies, 4 was garbage though.

Oh and don't get me started on LOTR, the only reason I put myself to watching that snorefest was for the effects and the few massive battles.

So, basically, you don't want to think.
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Imagining the characters and locations in your mind can be fun in some cases, but still reading a book =/= entertainment IMO
Also I can't help but laugh at all you guys that expect some sort of deep cerebral experience out of every single movie you see:rolleyes:
 
ZeroPointGun said:
Bah, books. Who needs books nowadays anyway? The special effects more than make up for the countless hours you would spend reading a book and imagining what it would actually look like in your head. Personally, movies are better and I don't care what anyone has to say in response. Movies might not have as much detail but at least you can actually see the spells and what have you.
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You are missing so much by not reading the books. The books look like the holy bible. Yet it's an easy read with normal sized font. LOTR books I can't stand though. Do you really think they can fit all that content in a single 2 hour movie? An example is that there are vampires, ogres, and recently zombies in the 6th book. There was also a savage werewolf who mutilated people and loved it. He particulary liked to bite children and this is how Lupin became a werewolf. Rowling gave him a cool name that I forget but I really wish she fleshed out the character more. She probably will because Lupin is looking for revenge on him. Werewolf fight would probably happen too. Voldemort has armies of creatures and Harry has to face them all including Voldemort and his witchs/wizards. Just go to the library and rent it out and read a few pages of the 6th book or 5th. You will be amazed how how much better they are. Almost forgot about a cool detail in the 6th. Voldemort starts to not only terrorize the magical world but the "normal" world. He creates earthquakes, tornadoes, and other natural disasters with his followers.
Thunderclap said:
I personally enjoy both books and the movies, but you have to seperate them and look at two seperate entities.
They can't possibly include every single aspect of the book in two and a half hours.
I enjoy the books but I don't absolutely adore them with all my heart (that's reserved for George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire ;), which they are adapting for HBO).

The thing that bugs me most, and this is nitpicking I suppose, is that Rowlying is really inconsistent with world building. The things that come to my mind is the legal system and the entire plot of Book 4. Why they would have a trial for Harry (or any wizard for that matter) when they have access to Veritaserum? Give 'em a sip, pop the question, case solved.

Or the fact that Voldemort stages an incredibly and needlessly convoluted plot to kidnap Harry in Book 4, when the book could have been ended in the first week of school with Moody/Crouch saying he has to talk to Harry after class and then giving him a stout whack to the head with a mallet.
I believe the justificiation for that is that Voldemort himself wanted to return using the Triwizard Cup portkey and wreak havoc at Hogwarts, but then, he still could have just walked there or used a broom after he was resurrected (which, as I said before, could have been done in the first week of school).

I think it's a credit to Rowling's writing though that I still like the books.
Oh, and by the way, I got to see the movie last Thursday. 'Twas excellent. :P
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  1. Well if you read the newest book (I think) Veritaserum is not the end all solution. Think of it as a lie detector test. It's great on the weak minded but people like Snape who can control and read other weak minded people can block the effects.
  2. Voldemort knows that Dumbledore and other wizards would kick his ass if he just turned up at Hogwarts. Hogwarts also has tons of security features on it to prevent such things. Voldemort also could not yet touch Harry at that time and he was still half dead. He wanted to kill Harry himself and also become immune to touching Harry.
 
I just got done reading the books and cannot wait for the next one!! (I hope the movie of Half-Blood Prince is like 3 hours long though.)

Likewise, I cannot wait for the movie of OotP to release!! So much great stuff going on and the Wii game is great too!!
 
I'm a little surprised by the length of "deathly hallows". The British version is set at 608 pages, making it the 3rd longest book. (the American version is 760+ pages though making it the 2nd longest.... I guess larger font size and lots of lovely pictures for you Americans). But the point is with so much to tie up, like finding 4 Horcruxes, Harry's lineage, the big showdown etc etc I really imagined this would be like the a 1000+ pager easily. Lets hope JKH hasn't been overwhelmed and cut corners.
 
I like the movies, but I prefer the books. Can't wait for Deathly Hallows.
 
They put out a new special on HBO to hype up the crowd: http://www.mugglenet.com/app/news/full_story/1045 It's amazing how they sucked my imagination and put it into a film. The final 25 min looks awesome and the death horses give out a cry that is out of this world and makes you shiver. Another clip has also been put out and did a particularly good job of showing the prisoners breaking out of prison: [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk6JOniMElQ[/YOUTUBE] Can't wait!!! :cheese:
 
Books are almost always generally favorable to movies (almost always), but in the case of The Order of the Phoenix, the movie's going to be badass vs. the book. I disliked the book. It's the only book in the HP series that had me thinking, "Meh" up until the very end. And if you've read the book and you know what happens at the end, you can't tell me you weren't thinking, "Oh man, this scene will ROCK in the movie!"

And that's why I'm hyped about this one. Unlike Goblet of Fire, you CAN cut half of the book out of this movie and it'll be alright, because there's less than half of that book that was good.

Oh, I'm also hyped because Luna Lovegood > everyone else.
 
Darkside55 said:
Books are almost always generally favorable to movies (almost always), but in the case of The Order of the Phoenix, the movie's going to be badass vs. the book. I disliked the book. It's the only book in the HP series that had me thinking, "Meh" up until the very end. And if you've read the book and you know what happens at the end, you can't tell me you weren't thinking, "Oh man, this scene will ROCK in the movie!"

And that's why I'm hyped about this one. Unlike Goblet of Fire, you CAN cut half of the book out of this movie and it'll be alright, because there's less than half of that book that was good.

Oh, I'm also hyped because Luna Lovegood > everyone else.
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I agree though, Order of the Phoenix was the only book I didn't enjoy all the way through. Only bits a pieces.

Movie does look like it will rawk, though.
 
Same here.

Although Harry indirectly killing Syrius pisses me off. Goddamn teenagers and their (lack of) brains.
 
If you so desire Samon. Concerning characters:

UMBRIDGE is great, Immelda Staunton nails the character perfectly. I kind of came to like Snape over the years, and while he's freaky as hell in the movie, Voldy in the books just doesn't frighten me, but I f***ing despised Umbridge in the books, and I did in the movie. So...GJ Immelda Staunton!

LOVEGOOD is great, Evanna Launch does one of JK Rowling's best characters justice, and she's good looking to boot.

BELLATRIX LESTRANGE is great. She's only onscreen briefly, but Helena Bonham Carter gives us a vision of the most batf*ck insane witch you ever seen, which is exactly what Lestrange is!

THE THREE LEADS: I thought it was their best performance yet. Most people fall into the two armed camps who either hate them or have them on their desktop wallpapers. I am that rare breed that is neither, and in my opinion they've improved with each film.

Those are the most important points. The other reoccurring characters act much the same (although SPOILERSLOL Fred and George's exit, which they thankfully kept and kicks ass on at least three levels, got an ovation from the theater I was in ENDSPOILERSLOL).
 
You have to tell me just one thing:

The last battle in the book, is it as epic in the movie? Yay or nay?
 
Darkside55 said:
You have to tell me just one thing:

The last battle in the book, is it as epic in the movie? Yay or nay?
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If we count all the prophecies falling off the shelves, I think the end scene has the most shit exploding for the longest amount of time in any film. Ever. They have also taken the opposite approach taken in LOTR. While there magic just happened and there was no flash (I'm thinking the fight between Gandalf and Saruman in FOTR), in HP it looks like a fracking 4th of July fireworks display. (Not that I object in any way, shape or form). Does that answer your question?
 
The first book was for the kiddies and introduced the world. The second was a bit more darker. The third said "enough of the kiddies" and was pure awesome and much darker. Everything after this book is great and you can see where the series is going with this one. The fourth got even better with dragons and what-not. The fifth is purely amazing with all out brawls, crazy hags, and spells going this way and that. The sixth is pure orgasmic and introduces so many things that you can't wait for the last. The last one should be the best book I ever read. No doubt. The worst movie of all of them is the third. I'm reading all the books before the last one comes out. After I get done with one of them I watch the movie. The third is horrible. Only done with less than 3/4 of the fourth book. Going to let my mom read the last book while I finish up the rest then read the last.
 
The movie actually looks like it will be good, the best so far, I mean I'd know I have seen all Hairy Pothead movies. For t3h 1337 magickz duh.
 
Thunderclap said:
If we count all the prophecies falling off the shelves, I think the end scene has the most shit exploding for the longest amount of time in any film. Ever. They have also taken the opposite approach taken in LOTR. While there magic just happened and there was no flash (I'm thinking the fight between Gandalf and Saruman in FOTR), in HP it looks like a fracking 4th of July fireworks display. (Not that I object in any way, shape or form). Does that answer your question?
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Yes. Yes it does, thank you. I am going to change my pants now.
 
I love t3h 1337 magickz battl3z, hopefully this will be good, I have the book but I got bored of reading it, as I have previously mentioned somewhere on this site, I prefer movies, don't have to pay attention for as long as a book.
 
ZeroPointGun said:
I love t3h 1337 magickz battl3z, hopefully this will be good, I have the book but I got bored of reading it, as I have previously mentioned somewhere on this site, I prefer movies, don't have to pay attention for as long as a book.
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I know this will sound really rude, and I apologize, but could you please stop revelling so blatantly in your self-proclaimed lack of attention and imagination? :|
 
Movie was meh. It was like someone read the book back when it came out, then tried to retell it, and making up parts for what they couldn't remember. The beginning, as seems to be becoming usual for the movies, seemed like a slideshow, and there wasn't enough McGonagol. I was so looking forward to the part when umbridge interviews minerva and gets owned. I was dissappointed :/

I will admit, they made the last battle a bit more interesting than it would have been. If the movie had gone for another twenty minutes, the beginning could have gone a lot better, and the ending in dumbledore's office would have been better, no doubt.

Also, again, Dumbledore is a jerk. I hate him. In the next movie, I will not give a shit when he dies.
 
I thought it was good, better than the other stuff that has been released. I just wish there was more interaction between Percey Weasley and the Weasleys...
 
I'll be seeing it tonight (Only because my mam got free tickets off of a friend)
 
Odd place to put this.

I used to be a huge Potter fan back in my primary school days, but somewhere along the track I stopped caring about it.

So with the last book looming on the horizon, should I get back into the hype? I haven't read the 6th one, though I do have a copy of it... yet I can't remember shit all that happened in the last books and it will take me a long while to pick up on everything unless I read the others again D:

Is it worth it? More mature? Epic?
 
Theres something really worthwhile that I get from the books that has lasted a good few years now, and although I pick up an enjoyable book every week from town, the release of the latest Potter has me constantly whining for it be on sale now. Just something about them. I've enjoyed all the books so I suggest you get back into then. Just Wiki the before books if you're strapped for time but personally if I didn't have such a big pile of other books to get through at the moment I'd be re-reading them.

Going to see the film tomorrow with a bunch of mates. Should be fun, although packed.
 
Ah, the Film was good. But not fantas-tic, you know what I'm saying?
 
The new actor for Dumbledore is meh. The older one was much much better. I'll be seeing the movie tonight.
 
Still have yet to watch Goblet of Fire, movies haven't really interested me, books are entertaining. Although the new movie has intrigued me since I've read that its not for kids and much darker, oooooOOoo.
 
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