Hdr

[BaNDiT]

Is the game gonna have HDR, cuz i havent seen it since the hdr demo?

 

[crabcakes66]

There was a bunch of HDR in the new E3 vids.

 

[ReDGuNNeR]

I think the demo was made to show the capabilities of the Source Engine, but I don't think it is included (or is not used extensively) in HL2

 

[Dark Auro]

There was a bunch of HDR in the new E3 vids.

I thought someone from Valve said there was no HDR in the E3 2004 movies? I also heard that Valve hasn't decided yet but they did say if it didn't come with it when the game was released it would be shortly after.

 

[A2597]

there was no HDR in theE3 2k4 vids, but HL@ WILL have it

 

[BaNDiT]

k, ya cuz the e3 vids had no hdr

 

[obsidian]

i thought they said that it may not make it as its only for high end cards and that they'd rather put in stuff that everyone will benefit from.

 

[Dark Auro]

i thought they said that it may not make it as its only for high end cards and that they'd rather put in stuff that everyone will benefit from.

They did say it was for high end cards but said it would still be there. It will either be there when the game is released or soon after with a patch/update.

 

[BaNDiT]

does that mean that w/ hdr on everythin will look as great as it did in the demo vid?

 

[A2597]

there is an HDR vid somewhere...showing some of city17 with HDR effects. quite nice.

the code is in, so it IS in.

 

[Asus]

There was a bunch of HDR in the new E3 vids.

It isn't in the 2004 E3 vids, I made the same assumption.

As for if HDR is in or not.
Link

 

[crabcakes66]

Well the lighting looks very nice either way

 

[Asus]

Well the lighting looks very nice either way

haha
Of course it does!
I now want to see a comparison of how it was in the 2004 E3 vids and with HDR enabled.

 

[Maxi]

They haven't yet decided on wheter hl2 will have HDR straight out of the box. They want to make other things look better that everyone can benefit from not just the people with the high end cards, like me

It's somewhere in the Valve info thread if anyone wants to read it.

 

[jonnyapps]

They haven't yet decided on wheter hl2 will have HDR straight out of the box. They want to make other things look better that everyone can benefit from not just the people with the high end cards, like me

It's somewhere in the Valve info thread if anyone wants to read it.

is my 9600xt a 'high end' card?

 

[The Dark Elf]

It's all good and well for Valve to cater for the none high end users. But there's a lot of high end users who probably wont bother if its gonna end up looking like HL1 on their brand new fancy video cards

Not to mention what is the damn point in tricking people into buying ATI cards that can do the effects, then doing a game that doesn't even make use of any of them. They should really stop trying to be backward compatible, its fine for apps to do that, not games.

 

[jonnyapps]

It's all good and well for Valve to cater for the none high end users. But there's a lot of high end users who probably wont bother if its gonna end up looking like HL1 on their brand new fancy video cards

Not to mention what is the damn point in tricking people into buying ATI cards that can do the effects, then doing a game that doesn't even make use of any of them. They should really stop trying to be backward compatible, its fine for apps to do that, not games.

I agree - you'd think they'd be encouraging investment in new [ati] products not telling people don't worry you don't need to. Saying that though I think there's a lot on display to excite the high end user

 

[Dead-Inside]

is my 9600xt a 'high end' card?

Yes, but it's on the way out with ATI's next series (After 9800)

 

[Epsi]

I think it's a case of they're judging when they want to get this game out, what features they want to put in, and delaying things like HDR which are going to make things a bit prettier for the few, and get things done which will benefit everyone instead.

They can patch HDR in post-release anyways.

 

[Kirkburn]

I'm pretty certain HDR won't be in the release version as they said they'd 'locked' all of the features, and HDR wasn't one of them. They also said that they will probably put it in later when more people have cards that support it. (Ah, the wonders of Steam )

 

[Mountain Man]

It's all good and well for Valve to cater for the none high end users. But there's a lot of high end users who probably wont bother if its gonna end up looking like HL1 on their brand new fancy video cards

Eh? It'll look at least as good as the demo videos we've seen which is considerably better looking than the original Half-Life. Whatever gave you the idea that "no HDR = looks like the original game"?

Not to mention what is the damn point in tricking people into buying ATI cards that can do the effects, then doing a game that doesn't even make use of any of them. They should really stop trying to be backward compatible, its fine for apps to do that, not games.

I can't believe all the suckers who fell for the "Half-Life 2 will look best on ATi cards" marketing scam.

I say again, Half-Life 2 will look at least good as what we've seen in the demos and screenshots, that is assuming you have the hardware to run it. Don't worry, Half-Life 2 will make full use of all the advanced pixel shaders on your top of the line video card even if it doesn't take advantage of HDR technology.

 

[Tork]

You think its modable to add HDR without the help of Valve ? That would be cool as hell, but HDR or not its still gonna kickass

 

[SMT]

You think its modable to add HDR without the help of Valve ? That would be cool as hell, but HDR or not its still gonna kickass

You'd probably have to tap into the core renderer to add HDR, which would be impossible without the source code from the release build of the game, which you could only get by reverse engineering, which is baaaad.

On the other hand, it could be as easy as switching to an HDR-enabled renderer DLL, which would be remarkably quick and simple.

 

[Kirkburn]

You think its modable to add HDR without the help of Valve ? That would be cool as hell, but HDR or not its still gonna kickass

What would be the point if they are gonna add it anyway? Would anyone bother? Do people do that to any games, as it requires an intimate knowledge of the source code, how to do HDR and everything like that? Personally I think the answers would be, no, no, and no.

On the other hand, it could be as easy as switching to an HDR-enabled renderer DLL, which would be remarkably quick and simple.

If it was that easy don't you think VALVe would have done that?

 

[Tork]

What would be the point if they are gonna add it anyway?

Just like in Far cry right now people are waiting for the SDK to be released and a few people out there made their own tools to mod the game without the help from Crytek. If you knew someone could add HDR to hl2 would you download it or wait ? Just a simple question

Would anyone bother?

If its doable, hence the question.

 

[Kirkburn]

What would be the point if they are gonna add it anyway?
It would look better, if you have seen any of the hdr effects on HL2 it looks great.

Would anyone bother?
If its doable im sure someone would, hence the question.

Did you actually read what i wrote? i.e.

they are gonna add it anyway

And what HDR effects have you seen on HL2?

 

[Ownzed]

What the hell is HDR?

 

[Kirkburn]

What the hell is HDR?

There is a thread describing this. I suggest you actually look it up.
(and don't start cluttering up this thread with what's already been said on the other one, as I'm sure someone's about to do )

 

[PvtRyan]

I wonder why they took it out, sure it's a heavy feature for a card, but if you can turn it off then there's no problem right?
It ran fine on a 9800 Pro/9800 XT, the HDR demo was in the benchmark some sites received right?

The code was already there, so why strip it out? The only extra work I see is making HDR images out of the LDR skyboxes, and that's assuming they use HDRI in the first place.

 

[Tork]

It's all good and well for Valve to cater for the none high end users. But there's a lot of high end users who probably wont bother if its gonna end up looking like HL1 on their brand new fancy video cards

Not to mention what is the damn point in tricking people into buying ATI cards that can do the effects, then doing a game that doesn't even make use of any of them. They should really stop trying to be backward compatible, its fine for apps to do that, not games.

Couldnt have said it better myself, I just bought a new computer a week ago.

I wonder why they took it out, sure it's a heavy feature for a card, but if you can turn it off then there's no problem right?
It ran fine on a 9800 Pro/9800 XT, the HDR demo was in the benchmark some sites received right?

The code was already there, so why strip it out? The only extra work I see is making HDR images out of the LDR skyboxes, and that's assuming they use HDRI in the first place.

Yup, im also wondering why they couldnt have just made an option for people who cant run it and for people who could. Hey but if they are in a rush to release it then i can wait.