HL2- Completing It Going To Be A Tedious Task ?

blahblahblah said:
Ahhh, you took my quote out of context. What are you Fox News? :O

No I’m the British equivalent "BBC" :bounce:
 
Corupter said:
No I’m the British equivalent "BBC" :bounce:

British aye?

Time for a wee taxi ride to curopters house

*packs claymore*

:thumbs:
 
Mac said:
my beef with you is your attempt to derail this thread with your critiques about grammar.

All I did was stick up for Dougy and point out that Coruptor's posts were some of the most painful to read I'd ever seen. Sorry if my attempt to improve things slightly irritated you.
 
Dougy said:
British aye?

Time for a wee taxi ride to curopters house

*packs claymore*

:thumbs:

I dont like falling out with you by the way, so meh you win.
;(
 
Mac said:
my beef with you is your attempt to derail this thread with your critiques about grammar.


Mac i thank you with one hand on my heart but i understood what brain damage meant although he upset me. I mean is it so hard to put on a brave face to spare my feelings, is that so much to ask ?
 
Brian Damage said:
What's wrong with a few pointers ;) ?

I would gladly except some.

Besides people! its a nice day lets all chill and enjoy a bit of reading (even if like Brain Damage said, its painful to read) with the odd opinion slid in somewhere along the lines :thumbs:
 
Well, you make an interesting point. I never said you didn't. I personally don't agree, at least, not about the tedium, but it's interesting.

Pointers...

Well... this little fellow: "," (Forgotten his name. See? I don't even pretend to be in any way perfect)

... is your friend. Put him in your sentences wherever you'd take a breath or pause, if you were speaking the sentence out loud.

Capitalisation at the start of a sentence is good, but you can usually get away with not doing it on the net... the same goes for full-stops.

Your spelling's not bad, I'll grant you that... except for one thing... one, simple thing that everyone gets wrong...

It's Brian Damage :E.
 
Thanks for the argument you two, not to mention that inspiring and educational lesson, Brian.

Any chance of getting back on topic, though?
 
Brian Damage said:
Well, you make an interesting point. I never said you didn't. I personally don't agree, at least, not about the tedium, but it's interesting.

Pointers...

Well... this little fellow: "," (Forgotten his name. See? I don't even pretend to be in any way perfect)

... is your friend. Put him in your sentences wherever you'd take a breath or pause, if you were speaking the sentence out loud.

Capitalisation at the start of a sentence is good, but you can usually get away with not doing it on the net... the same goes for full-stops.

Your spelling's not bad, I'll grant you that... except for one thing... one, simple thing that everyone gets wrong...

It's Brian Damage :E.

Ooh can i be blunt

Your names evil. :devil:
 
Sure thing, Abby; I was about to, anyway...

I don't think it'd be tedious, at least not due to difficulty...

I have been wondering if the range of options might be kind of overwhelming, though, leading to a sort of "Toxic Option" syndrome, and... I dunno what to call it... Choice Paralysis?

[EDIT]: I know, I know... Eeeeevvviiiiilllll...
 
Abom said:
Thanks for the argument you two, not to mention that inspiring and educational lesson, Brian.

Any chance of getting back on topic, though?

Sorry Abom,
You could contribute if you like i always enjoy hearing what the mods have to say ?
 
Brian Damage said:
Sure thing, Abby; I was about to, anyway...

I don't think it'd be tedious, at least not due to difficulty...

I have been wondering if the range of options might be kind of overwhelming, though, leading to a sort of "Toxic Option" syndrome, and... I dunno what to call it... Choice Paralysis?

I do actually agree with your point and see what your saying.
 
It'd be interesting to see, after the release, if any players come on here asking for advice along the lines of "I've gotten to the thingamajig with the such-and-such, but now I can't decide whether to use the whosamajigger on the such and such, or use the dinglybob to jump the thingamajig"...

Stuck for choice...
 
Brian Damage said:
It'd be interesting to see, after the release, if any players come on here asking for advice along the lines of "I've gotten to the thingamajig with the such-and-such, but now I can't decide whether to use the whosamajigger on the such and such, or use the dinglybob to jump the thingamajig"...

Stuck for choice...

Definitely again I agree there’s always going to be a point in the game where there are so many choices on how to get past that particular part that the gamer will probably mess up a few times.
 
I think the best way to deal with rising complexity with games like this is probably to regard them as being progressively closer to reality, and do what you would if the situation occured in real life. Then you can go back and try the other ways.
 
Corupter said:
Sorry Abom,
You could contribute if you like i always enjoy hearing what the mods have to say ?

Sure thing, I always love to contribute. The way I see it, Half-Life 2 will be a rollercoaster of a ride, just like its predecessor. Valve will have made sure that the key plot element is there, with more twists and turns than a drunken breakdancer. The physics are sure to add something to the mix; people will be inventing dozens of ways of ending Combine troops' lives (me included!).

Damnit, I just got myself all excited again. I want Half-Life 2 :hmph:
 
Brian Damage said:
I think the best way to deal with rising complexity with games like this is probably to regard them as being progressively closer to reality, and do what you would if the situation occured in real life. Then you can go back and try the other ways.

True but you can’t always do what you would initially do in real life, admittedly HL2 is more realistic than any game out at the moment but there will always be limitations restricting you to a certain action to defeat a certain foe.
 
Abom said:
Sure thing, I always love to contribute. The way I see it, Half-Life 2 will be a rollercoaster of a ride, just like its predecessor. Valve will have made sure that the key plot element is there, with more twists and turns than a drunken breakdancer. The physics are sure to add something to the mix; people will be inventing dozens of ways of ending Combine troops' lives (me included!).

Damnit, I just got myself all excited again. I want Half-Life 2 :hmph:

Got to admit thats a good way of putting it.

and i feel your pain i want the game too. :(

P.S. 100th Post :cheers: Cheers
 
Corupter said:
True but you can’t always do what you would initially do in real life, admittedly HL2 is more realistic than any game out at the moment but there will always be limitations restricting you to a certain action to defeat a certain foe.

You're right, I suppose I should have said "attempt to do what you would in real life".

I used to get stuck on things like this. Big decisions in games would make me shut down the game and wander off to think.

But then I discovered what a Quicksave was.
 
Brian Damage said:
You're right, I suppose I should have said "attempt to do what you would in real life".

I used to get stuck on things like this. Big decisions in games would make me shut down the game and wander off to think.

But then I discovered what a Quicksave was.

Rofl, cant live without quick save.
 
Oh noes, all these options make the game TEDIOUS!

WTF?
 
Letters said:
Oh noes, all these options make the game TEDIOUS!

WTF?

Let me assure you i meant tedious in the lightest way possible and in my origional first post i never said that the OPTIONS made it tedious, please read more carefully.

I forgive you this time :thumbs:
 
Corupter said:
Let me assure you i meant tedious in the lightest way possible and in my origional first post i never said that the OPTIONS made it tedious, please read more carefully.
Oh yes... it's the options that it make too hard so that people will die over and over, and that makes it tedious... leave out too many steps for you there?



Corupter said:
I forgive you this time :thumbs:
Thanks. :|
 
Letters said:
Oh yes... it's the options that it make too hard so that people will die over and over, and that makes it tedious... leave out too many steps for you there?




Thanks. :|

Actually i said that you would die over and over at the spindly legs of a strider the opinion about options making the game harder came to light later in the thread so please go to the naughty corner ! :naughty:
 
I sure hope Valve uses the facial animation to its fullest extent. Like Gordon gets knocked off a roof and wakes up being raised by mimes and in order to get to the next level you have to play charades with them. Or even better having a side kick throughout the game that never talks but makes facial expressions. Taht would wbe the bets halg life evar!

Then I hope if you kill a good guy you have to do house chores like mow the lawn until you learn the value of human life and then the Gman says he is sorry for the aliens and to run for the hills.
 
Corupter said:
well i'd say its more of a heated debate. And thats what i want in my threads if a poster cant feel that he can state his opinion and be listened to by the thread starter then theres no point in voicing an opinion. I try to make it my duty to reply to every post i get its good manners and im pleased that people post in this thread wither it be trying to be-little me or praise me either will do to be honest, preferably i'd prefer people to stick to a topic but my topics are always so hazy and confusing that sometimes thats impossible.

:D


No not really, a debate about punctuation and spelling with a title named "HL2- Completing It Going To Be A Tedious Task ?". :|

On topic. This game wont be to tedious to complete....give me one reason why it will be and not a 'because it has cars' malarky.Who here likes the repetative game : Painkiller? | You want HL2 to be like that? Where you know what you need to do on each level before you even start, Where nothing around you matters, thank you but no thank you, if i wanted to play a spiced up mobile phone game then i'd go buy Painkiller.
 
Alig said:
No not really, a debate about punctuation and spelling with a title named "HL2- Completing It Going To Be A Tedious Task ?". :|

On topic. This game wont be to tedious to complete....give me one reason why it will be and not a 'because it has cars' malarky.Who here likes the repetative game : Painkiller? | You want HL2 to be like that? Where you know what you need to do on each level before you even start, Where nothing around you matters, thank you but no thank you, if i wanted to play a spiced up mobile phone game then i'd go buy Painkiller.

you have a point and I agree, I personally don’t want the game to be boring but as its in a league of its own and barely any people have experienced a game quite like it, there’s always a chance that because its so radically different and that you really don’t know what to do and the possibilities of what to do are endless it can get a bit, well I’m not sure how to but it best i guess exasperating thinking how to which bit best with what weaponry, it could in parts become so realistic that it actually is too hard to complete.
 
Corupter said:
you have a point and I agree, I personally don’t want the game to be boring but as its in a league of its own and barely any people have experienced a game quite like it, there’s always a chance that because its so radically different and that you really don’t know what to do and the possibilities of what to do are endless it can get a bit, well I’m not sure how to but it best i guess exasperating thinking how to which bit best with what weaponry, it could in parts become so realistic that it actually is too hard to complete.

I dont see what your worried about, from Valves background they are'nt business men/women as such, they are normal people like me and you (Erm, they came from the mod community themselfs) (or so i hear) where as a company would normally be 1) Cash 2) Game 3) Game maintanence (patches etc...) 4) Us, Basically what im saying is Valve are'nt so selfish, they reply to peoples queries and questions as if they care about us more than £35.
 
Personally, I welcome the difficulty that HL2 might provide. I'm hoping it isn't, "Scream and bash your keyboard repeatedly on the desk, howling like a monkey"-type difficulty, but I think it should pose a fair challenge.

And of cars and things, I think that does a lot less to reduce tedium. I know you meant tedium in the lightest sense of the word, as you put it, but the definition of tedium is repetitiveness; repeating the same thing over and over again. The fact that you've got options does a lot to lessen that. You could take the car, or you could walk on foot. At least you have an option of doing something differently, rather than being confined to a very strict and linear way of doing things. Like defeating a boss, or getting past an obstacle; I'm sure there are multiple ways to go about these types of things, and that's going to add to the overall replayability of the game.

Matter of fact, with the engine how it is, there might be one hundred different ways to handle a certain situation. Now I'm feeling that hype for the game again... :p

Also, for what it's worth, I found your posts easy enough to read. And it's a good topic. :thumbs:
 
Alig said:
I dont see what your worried about, from Valves background they are'nt business men/women as such, they are normal people like me and you (Erm, they came from the mod community themselfs) (or so i hear) where as a company would normally be 1) Cash 2) Game 3) Game maintanence (patches etc...) 4) Us, Basically what im saying is Valve are'nt so selfish, they reply to peoples queries and questions as if they care about us more than £35.

Your obviously fairly intelligent and everything you've said so far i agree with,
But theres a slight problem, me personally am not worried about completing the game the only thing i was worried about is that parts may be so difficult it would oh i dont know give you a headache or cause some random stroke or possible seisure. I understand perfectly well that this is a game for us made by people like us (although considerably richer) but since the game is going to be outstandingly good there is bound to be multiple parts that are how shall i put it "Solid" so i just wanted to disscuss wither this would be a deturent to any of you fine gamers.
 
Darkside55 said:
Personally, I welcome the difficulty that HL2 might provide. I'm hoping it isn't, "Scream and bash your keyboard repeatedly on the desk, howling like a monkey"-type difficulty, but I think it should pose a fair challenge.

And of cars and things, I think that does a lot less to reduce tedium. I know you meant tedium in the lightest sense of the word, as you put it, but the definition of tedium is repetitiveness; repeating the same thing over and over again. The fact that you've got options does a lot to lessen that. You could take the car, or you could walk on foot. At least you have an option of doing something differently, rather than being confined to a very strict and linear way of doing things. Like defeating a boss, or getting past an obstacle; I'm sure there are multiple ways to go about these types of things, and that's going to add to the overall replayability of the game.

Matter of fact, with the engine how it is, there might be one hundred different ways to handle a certain situation. Now I'm feeling that hype for the game again... :p

Also, for what it's worth, I found your posts easy enough to read. And it's a good topic. :thumbs:

You make a good nay GREAT point.

Oh and your my new hero for the last bit you put
"Also, for what it's worth, I found your posts easy enough to read. And it's a good topic. :thumbs:"
 
I dont think there is (should be) a gamer out there that could'nt get started on HL series, they are so thought through. You could probably give Half Life to your 'never played a game' Dad and they would probably turn overnight lol. I've got very high expectations of HL2 and im sure alot of people have too including Valve who have to live upto HL when there has been hundreds of FPS over the years trying to claim 'best FPS EVER!!' from HL, anyway i think this game will be the 3rd exciting/enjoyable FPS i'll play to date...HL then FarCry and then this and i dont mean that in order of how good i just mean...well you probably get me :bounce:
 
Alig said:
I dont think there is (should be) a gamer out there that could'nt get started on HL series, they are so thought through. You could probably give Half Life to your 'never played a game' Dad and they would probably turn overnight lol. I've got very high expectations of HL2 and im sure alot of people have too including Valve who have to live upto HL when there has been hundreds of FPS over the years trying to claim 'best FPS EVER!!' from HL, anyway i think this game will be the 3rd exciting/enjoyable FPS i'll play to date...HL then FarCry and then this and i dont mean that in order of how good i just mean...well you probably get me :bounce:

Yeh i guess so although i seriously doubt i could stick my dad infront of the computer and tell him to play Half Life 2 and he would take to it like a fish in water, more than likely after playing over night he'll be curled under the table rocking and saying "the combines are after me the combines are after me"
 
Corupter said:
Yeh i guess so although i seriously doubt i could stick my dad infront of the computer and tell him to play Half Life 2 and he would take to it like a fish in water, more than likely after playing over night he'll be curled under the table rocking and saying "the combines are after me the combines are after me"

:LOL: That would be a picture.
 
Alig said:
:LOL: That would be a picture.

Yeh i guess you can just imagine it ... he'd be supporting a lovely amount of stubble with a various amount of coffee stains over his shirt and his right or left hand what ever he uses for the mouse will have formed into a claw ! :eek:
 
I definately looking forward to the driving. From what I've seen is that you have inderpendent looking and steering. I can't stand games with "What you see-is where you drive"
I like to shoot enemies without my car turning to face them.
Terrible driving in action games:
Joint Ops
Halo

Good driving in action games:
Battlefield series
Unreal Tour 2004
 
DEATH eVADER said:
I definately looking forward to the driving. From what I've seen is that you have inderpendent looking and steering. I can't stand games with "What you see-is where you drive"
I like to shoot enemies without my car turning to face them.
Terrible driving in action games:
Joint Ops
Halo

Good driving in action games:
Battlefield series
Unreal Tour 2004

Yeh but personally i've never been good at any form of driving in any game think i'll take the bus.
 
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