hl2 "....the best game ever made."isn't pride!!!

[okeydokey89]

look guy's i don't think hl2 the best!!!!
why this pride !!!?....ther's many games fantastec like ....
farcry in physics!! same hl2 also doom3....!

 

[Elkhound]

HL2 isnt all about the physics. The story is also awsome. And if I think about it abit longer I can probably think of more things. Ah Characters are cool. and more.

 

[Chris D]

But we're not saying it DEFINITELY is the best ever game. We're first of all open minded enough to have enjoyed other games like Far Cry and Doom 3, but also to know that WE think Half-Life 2 is great but that's OUR opinion.

 

[Hectic Glenn]

Undoubtably, its one of the best. We can never agree on the best.

 

[The Monkey]

Doom 3 and Farcry got nothing on HL2 when it comes to:
Graphics
Physics
Story
Sound
Leveldesign
Facial animations
AI

Do I need to continue?

 

[Solver]

I feel good every time I see people who admit they liked both Doom3 and HL2. Because it's not like if you enjoy one, you must hate and bash the other, damnit! I also enjoyed both games a lot, am looking forward to expansions for both, mods for both, and future games with engines of both.

 

[Zeus]

Doom 3 and Farcry got nothing on HL2 when it comes to:
Graphics
Physics
Story
Sound
Leveldesign
Facial animations
AI

Do I need to continue?

HL2 does not have better gfx and sound than doom 3 (HL2 doesn't have real time lighting). Far cry has better level design and AI than HL2. You may have a point with physics and facial animations but the rest just sounds like fanboyism.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

HL2 does not have better gfx and sound than doom 3 (HL2 doesn't have real time lighting). Far cry has better level design and AI than HL2. You may have a point with physics and facial animations but the rest just sounds like fanboyism.

Real time lighting does not = good gfx.


It means excelent technology... but it doesnt neccesserally make the graphics better.



I believe alot of HL2 looks more realistic and atmospheric than doom3 does. But thats just my opinion.

 

[f|uke]

As if we've never heard of FarCry and Doom 3.

Doom 3 whas shite. FarCry, however, is definitly my #2 shooter of 2004. The open levels and sense of freedom surpassed anything in HL2. But HL2 still had the better GFX, physics, character, plot, etc.

Real time lighting does not = good gfx.

Bumpmapping adds so much detail, and real time lighting really brings it all out.

As for the level design argument, I could go either way. A lot more thought and work clearly went into HL2 level design,. and the detail really comes through. FarCry, however, had open ended level design with expancive areas to explore. That rocked.

 

[The Monkey]

HL2 does not have better gfx and sound than doom 3 (HL2 doesn't have real time lighting). Far cry has better level design and AI than HL2. You may have a point with physics and facial animations but the rest just sounds like fanboyism.

It was just my opinion. And yes, I am a "Fanboy".

 

[Atomi]

I don't think HL2's story was too great. I hate it when people praise HL2 for its revolutionary story.

I like the game really much though, don't get any ideas about this!

 

[Solver]

To those who want to compare Doom3 and HL2 graphics. You have to understand what you compare. The engines or the graphics themselves. With low-res textures and low-poly models, the Source engine doesn't look any much good either (Half-Life: Source as an example). What the Doom engine does very well is dynamic lighting, what the Source engine can do very well is facial animations, for instance. However, textures and models are a separate issue. Doom3 has very low-res textures, which does make it look worse, but doesn't make its engine inferior.

 

[f|uke]

I don't think HL2's story was too great. I hate it when people praise HL2 for its revolutionary story.

It wasnt revolutionary,. but it was good. It had mystery and emotion. Doom3 and FarCry's plots were pathetic.

**edit,. actually, it was revolutionary, in the militaristic sense

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Bumpmapping adds so much detail, and real time lighting really brings it all out.

Yeah, I can see where you are coming from. Guess its just a personal preference thing.

 

[Chris D]

It's all about opinions

 

[Solver]

Well indeed, the HL2 story does have emotions and interesting characters. The Doom3 story was, well, a classic horror story without plot twists or real depth of characters or the story itself. But it was no different from what I actually expected. In fact, a deep story might not be even suitable for a game which is supposed to give you mindless fragging experience.

 

[Zeus]

It wasnt revolutionary,. but it was good. It had mystery and emotion. Doom3 and FarCry's plots were pathetic.

**edit,. actually, it was revolutionary, in the militaristic sense

FarCrys was ok. Doom 3's just seemed like it was thrown together because todays standards demand a plot in a game unlike the first 2 doom games.

 

[PXM5000]

I also liked all three, although hl2 was a bit better than the other two, But i still think the original Halflife is better than all of them

 

[okeydokey89]

Undoubtably, its one of the best. We can never agree on the best.

haa... "one of the best" ..maybe u don't understand exactly what they want u to understand
..ok, "... the best game ever made!!!!!! :x

 

[Chris D]

I'm not quite understanding what you mean, sorry...

 

[okeydokey89]

also.....

.....the pointiswhy this pride??!!as u said guy's ther's many games better but the pride!! isn't shame on this company valve with it pride!! :afro:

 

[Alix Mcdean]

I'm dropping I.Q. points as I continue to read Okeydokey's posts

No Okey, its not a shame to feel good about an excellently crafted video game.

-Alix

 

[f|uke]

Damn,.. if I made HL2 I'd be proud. Whats wrong with that? They put a lot of work into that game, and definitly pushed the entire industry forward with their texturing, use of physics, and facial animation.

Still, VALVes pride depends very heavily on our opinion of them. Its not what they say, its what we say.

I dont see anyone here saying that there are 'many better games'. Most of us here do believe that VALVe is one of the best, if not the best, developers around.

 

[Chris D]

I think you're misunderstanding. We prefer Half-Life 2 and you prefer Far Cry and Doom 3.

I like drinking coffee, you might prefer tea.

I like Coca Cola, you might prefer Pepsi.

Our point is, is that it's a matter of opinion...

 

[Ennui]

Yep, sort of how I think Half-Life 2 was excellent and nearly flawless, Far Cry was fun but overrated, and Doom 3 was dark and boring.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

I think you're misunderstanding. We prefer Half-Life 2 and you prefer Far Cry and Doom 3.

I like drinking coffee, you might prefer tea.

I like Coca Cola, you might prefer Pepsi.

Our point is, is that it's a matter of opinion...

I think he's just trying to stir up an e-fight and knows the concept of opinion :cheese:

 

[Unimita]

I don't think HL2's story was too great. I hate it when people praise HL2 for its revolutionary story.

I like the game really much though, don't get any ideas about this!

The HL2 story isn't revolutionary, no. But the way it is told is, and that is what makes it so special.

 

[kupocake]

As far as I'm concerned, Half-Life 2 is the best FPS of all time. Judging it as anything beyond that is basically idiotic - how can an FPS be judged against a RTS, RPG or any of the other genres? It can't, and it shouldn't. FPS games frequently dominate "best of" lists, simply because they're so easy to play and appreciate - the genre becomes popular, and people enjoy the genre more. It doesn't mean the genre is better.

But beyond, HL2, I've never played a game that came close to it on so many levels. This includes Doom III and Far Cry. Doom III was "Nice Video, Shame about the Song" (actually, Tweaker's Doom III theme was great, but I mean "the rest of the game" ). I played through it once, wondered at a few elements of the design work (Or more accurately, was pretty disturbed that anyone thought up the Hell and portal sections, which were pretty twisted really), was blown away by the lighting and got pretty bored with the actual gameplay of it all.

Far Cry on the other hand... It was strong in the one area that I felt HL2 got weak in... And Weak in the thousands of areas that Half-Life 2 was strong in. That strong point in Far Cry was the levels, with their multitude of approaches and massive area to cover... Just about everything else was pretty boring standard fare really. The story and characters weren't even that... they were goddamned awful.

The best way of summarising, in my opinion, what were the best FPS games of last year is like this: Doom III was a game I got for my birthday, played fairly solidly for a week and never played again. Far Cry was a game I got for christmas, played about half-way through on and off for a week and haven't got back to since. Half-Life 2 was a game I played from beginning to end in 3 days, and went back to complete another two times.

 

[Solver]

Yeah, but it will all about be opinions, always. I do, for instance, think that Doom3 is the best run-and-gun game and has the best technical graphics, I think that FarCry suffers from its open-endness and lacks in action, and that HL2 is the best FPS game overall. Love both HL2 and Doom3, and appreciate that they're different.

Another issue is that you can't say a game is the best game ever. Genres are too different. You can prefer one genre or another, but comparing games cross-genre is hard. Like, comparing Half-Life 2 to Age of Empires or Doom3 to Civilization is a useless and hopeless task.

 

[okeydokey89]

I think you're misunderstanding. We prefer Half-Life 2 and you prefer Far Cry and Doom 3.

I like drinking coffee, you might prefer tea.

I like Coca Cola, you might prefer Pepsi.

Our point is, is that it's a matter of opinion...

no ... did i said "I prefer Far Cry and Doom 3" ....not the case is prefrences the case is i belive that hl2 have a speacial rank in ur mind's cuz of the hugh company"valve" but u this neglect :dozey: with other games .

 

[f|uke]

no ... did i said "I prefer Far Cry and Doom 3" ....not the case is prefrences the case is i belive that hl2 have a speacial rank in ur mind's cuz of the hugh company"valve" but u this neglect :dozey: with other games .

OMG hes right!! VALVe has brainwashed us all into thinking HL2 is a good game!!

It must have been through their extencive advertising campain,.. wait, no.. through their frequent PR announcements! Er,. scracth that,. uhm,. what the hell are you on about dude? We like VALVe because we like HL2, not the other way around.

 

[Absinthe]

i am spelt gud PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[T.H.C.138]

I think a couple of rocks is what okey's on..conspiracy crack has been smoked

remember..G-man is watching you..always..and stay away from the water,they put something in it...

 

[okeydokey89]

i am spelt gud PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cuz that's the point honey!! :imu:

 

[Kangy]

i am spelt gud PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wat

it is tiem for the revuelitioun!

*ahem*

Anyway, err...

I hold a special place in my heart for HL2... because I like it that much. Doom 3 and Far Cry came close, but they were no cigar. Mere stop gaps for me, really, when it comes to actually being a good game. Valve will always inspire a warm feeling in my heart, because they've managed a 100% track record when it comes to making quality games.

 

[Ames]

Haha...if we liked companies because they were huge, EA would be like secks.

Your logic fails you. :\

 

[WaterMelon34]

I feel good every time I see people who admit they liked both Doom3 and HL2. Because it's not like if you enjoy one, you must hate and bash the other, damnit! I also enjoyed both games a lot, am looking forward to expansions for both, mods for both, and future games with engines of both.

Maybe the reason people say Doom 3 isn't good is because they actually don't like it smart ass.

 

[f|uke]

Haha...if we liked companies because they were huge, EA would be like secks.

w3rd. EA sux.

 

[Solver]

Maybe the reason people say Doom 3 isn't good is because they actually don't like it smart ass.

And there was a reason to get personal exactly why ?

And I never said anything about people who don't like Doom3, I know there's a fair amount of people who don't, but I said about those who do like both games.

 

[The Silhouette]

HL2 had real time lighting dumba**es, it didn't have real time shadowing.

HL2 was deffinitly the best looking, playing, and sounding FPS of 04. The lighting in HL2 looked the most natural out itself, Doom 3 and far cry. It was also the funnest more immersive FPS i ever played. I remember playing thru it 3 times, i go back to SP often. The sounds in HL2 were better then Doom 3, because it also had 5.1, but the viode acting, radio chatter, and dialog was as good as a a professionally written movie.

OkeyDokey...shut up, this board requiers above a 10 IQ, and perferably knowing the basics of the english grammer. You not not capable of either/or...retard.

i am spelt gud PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO!!!!