Hooking 360 up to Laptop

[Dog--]

MY ethernet cable is not long enough to connect to my modem, but my laptop is wirelessly connected through a wireless router - is there some sort of software or some shit I can download or something I can do so I can just connect my 360 to my laptop?

 

[unozero]

It's prolly less of a hassle if you get a longer one from BestBuy or something.
but yeah maybe Asus or No Limit know a work around.

 

[Dog--]

It is literally the longest distance possible in my house away.. I would really rather not buy a cable that long just for internet on the 360.. I don't even play online that much, this isn't actually a huge deal to me, it would just be nice to be able to play online again.

 

[Shamrock]

It's called... Windows! ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). Go Google it!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=internet+connection+sharing+xbox+360

 

[Dog--]

:3

<3 Shamwow

EDIT: No wait I can't get ICS to work, my connection has no option to share when I right click and go to properties on the connection - the one and only connection.

 

[Shamrock]

:3

<3 Shamwow

You're welcome. Also, I didn't mean to be a dick when I used that site. I've just never done it before. Haha.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

I've done it. ethernet from 360 to laptop, right click the wireless and LAN connections, bridge connections. For me it's a bit unstable (my wireless in general is). Simpler method: buy wireless attachment for the 360.

 

[Acepilotf14]

It's never worked properly for me, despite the fact that it should work fine.

Wireless attachment is $80. **** that.

 

[Warped]

long cable ftw! i use a 50 ft cable for my 360 and ps3, and for my dads computer we have to go through the heating vents. they never get hot enough to melt the wires and its the fastest way through the house. you can spend $40-100 or you can spend literally $10 on cables and shipping AND its faster with wired even at the 100 foot range. in fact i'm willing to bet the 1000ft ethernet cords work better than any wireless out there.

 

[Shamrock]

long cable ftw! i use a 50 ft cable for my 360 and ps3, and for my dads computer we have to go through the heating vents. they never get hot enough to melt the wires and its the fastest way through the house. you can spend $40-100 or you can spend literally $10 on cables and shipping AND its faster with wired even at the 100 foot range. in fact i'm willing to bet the 1000ft ethernet cords work better than any wireless out there.

I was going to say if you didn't link to monoprice, I'd cut you!

 

[giant384]

you can spend $40-100 or you can spend literally $10 on cables and shipping AND its faster with wired even at the 100 foot range. in fact i'm willing to bet the 1000ft ethernet cords work better than any wireless out there.

lol, someone need to learn the threshold of how long you can run a cat-5 cable and still have a signal.

 

[Dog--]

long cable ftw! i use a 50 ft cable for my 360 and ps3, and for my dads computer we have to go through the heating vents. they never get hot enough to melt the wires and its the fastest way through the house. you can spend $40-100 or you can spend literally $10 on cables and shipping AND its faster with wired even at the 100 foot range. in fact i'm willing to bet the 1000ft ethernet cords work better than any wireless out there.

What am I spending 40-100$ on? I have the cord and the 360 and the laptop it's all hooked up, I just can't get my laptop to give the 360 the signal.

 

[giant384]

Left click the wireless connection, hold ctrl then right click on the lan connection. Click bridge connections, it should create a new connection in your network connection.

 

[Hectic Glenn]

I still have a wireless thingy for the 360. Only thing I never sold after I sold my 360 on. No packaging but it works perfectly, I really should try find a buyer some day.

 

[No Limit]

:3

<3 Shamwow

EDIT: No wait I can't get ICS to work, my connection has no option to share when I right click and go to properties on the connection - the one and only connection.

See if this helps:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238135

You will want to make sure ICS is installed:

To install ICS:
Click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click Add/Remove Programs.
Click Internet Tools on the Windows Setup tab, and then click Details.
Click to select the Internet Connection Sharing check box, click OK, and then click OK again.
Follow the instructions to run the ICS wizard.
NOTE: You should only install ICS on the computer that you use to connect to the Internet. This computer is called the "host" computer. The other computers on the local area network (LAN) that use the host to connect to the Internet are called "client" computers.

and specific xbox 360 article once ICS is set up:

http://support.xbox.com/support/en/...d/SetupaHomeNetwork/WindowsICSConnection.aspx

I haven't done much work with network bridges but that might work too, I think you would need to connect your xbox and laptop using a crossover cable, not 100% sure; quick google search found this: http://videogame2play.com/platform/console/360/configuring-a-network-bridge-for-the-xbox-360 .

 

[Shamrock]

Bridging the connection is also more than likely your best bet. Just make sure you have both connections enabled and CTRL click them both so they are selected then right click one of them and choose bridge. That was always the best way it worked for me.

 

[No Limit]

Bridging the connection is also more than likely your best bet. Just make sure you have both connections enabled and CTRL click them both so they are selected then right click one of them and choose bridge. That was always the best way it worked for me.

I thought about this a little more on my way home from work (as if I dont have enough things going on in my head). If you are plugging in directly to the computer without a hub or switch you will probably need a cross over cable. I haven't done much with ICS or networking briding but I don't see how else it would work sicne the computers wont be able to communicate without the crossed over pins.

 

[Shamrock]

I thought about this a little more on my way home from work (as if I dont have enough things going on in my head). If you are plugging in directly to the computer without a hub or switch you will probably need a cross over cable. I haven't done much with ICS or networking briding but I don't see how else it would work sicne the computers wont be able to communicate without the crossed over pins.

It works with a regular ethernet cable as I've done it plenty of times. Hell, for the summer I had to use a Verizon network card, and it worked perfectly.

I even do it when I go home. I moved the router upstairs into me mum's room so when I want to connect the 360, I just use me laptop. Sorry I use me, but I can't help it.

Anyway, it should work perfectly if you bridge and use a normal ethernet cable.

 

[No Limit]

It works with a regular ethernet cable as I've done it plenty of times. Hell, for the summer I had to use a Verizon network card, and it worked perfectly.

I even do it when I go home. I moved the router upstairs into me mum's room so when I want to connect the 360, I just use me laptop. Sorry I use me, but I can't help it.

Anyway, it should work perfectly if you bridge and use a normal ethernet cable.

That's good to know, thanks. I just find it weird that it could work, everything I was taught the communication pins had to be crossed if you aren't using a hub or switch.

 

[VirusType2]

I guess because the 'computers' aren't directly communicating (like sharing files), it's just allowing it to use the Ethernet or wireless device as it's own, or something like that.

 

[No Limit]

I guess because the 'computers' aren't directly communicating (like sharing files), it's just allowing it to use the Ethernet or wireless device as it's own, or something like that.

The problem is that the communication lines aren't crossed when you use a regular cable. So your receive line on the XBOX is hooked up to the receive line on the lap top. Since both are receivers nothing is actually being sent. Same if you look at the transmit lines. Atleast thats what I've been taught about cross over cables, my info could be outdated now a days where the cross over could now be happening automatically on the network card itself. I got no clue.

 

[VirusType2]

Right, I understand. What I'm thinking - and I probably won't be able to explain it well - is that the computer is basically letting the 360 use the internet on it's own. Bridge connections. So it's like the 360 is plugged directly into the modem or router (whatever the computer is plugged into).

Anyway, I don't know, actually. I can see how that could still not make sense, but I just don't think it works like that in this case. Obviously not, or it wouldn't work.

 

[No Limit]

But the point is your connection looks like this right now:

Laptop Send ----> < ---- Xbox Send
Laptop Receive < ----- -----> Xbox Receive

See the problem? That means things are getting sent but are not being received and vice versa.

It should be:

Laptop Send ----> ----> Xbox Receive
Laptop Receive < ----- <----- Xbox Send

And that's what a hub or switch does, without that a crossover cable serves the same function.

 

[VirusType2]

Think about it though. It's a bridge. A bridge allows travel between two points. The computer is not interfering or translating at all. No middleman. It's like the 360 is plugged into the modem.

 

[Qonfused]

In my experiences, running a wire from your wireless laptop to your Xbox creates a shit ton of lag.

 

[No Limit]

Think about it though. It's a bridge. A bridge allows travel between two points. The computer is not interfering or translating at all. No middleman. It's like the 360 is plugged into the modem.

I am aware what a bridge is. A bridge doesn't change the pinouts on your network card so it has no effect on what I am saying; all it does is virtually connect 2 network segments together. I don't see how you can hook up the send pins on 2 devices together and have them communicate. If the crossover is made in the hardware thats possible, but it has nothing to do with a network bridge.

On edit, Shamrock, did your comptuer have a gigabit adapter on it? after looking around it seems like auto crossover is builtin to the gigabit standard. But this is not the case if your nic is still 10/100.

 

[VirusType2]

Yeah, trying to visualize it was a bit cloudy for me.

I'm researching how it works now, out of curiosity.

Back on topic, here's basically what's already been said, in different words. Maybe it will be helpful.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090925121010AATgcVj

Bridges differ depending on the size and type of wireless network. The simple versions simply connect a wireless network of computer devices to a primary network, such as the Internet, through an access point. An example of this can found in a common home network, where a wireless network made of up laptop computer, gaming consoles, and media players all access the Internet through the access point of primary desktop computer. The Ethernet bridge makes this connection possible. More complicated versions of this bridge are used to connect large wireless networks and come with learning capabilities that can direct data to specific access points based on previous experience. There are also hybrid bridges that can function as access points in their own right, but also connect to other networks.

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5167302_ethernet-bridge-work.html

I can't find the answer I'm looking for. I suppose it must be software controlled, telling the Ethernet device to send through the receive pins. I really can't think of any other explanation.

Is that what a hub does (using a built-in ROM or something)? I always assumed it was done through circuitry, personally. Simple transistors.

No idea.

 

[No Limit]

Dog, any updates on this? I'm curious if after you installed ICS if you got it working using a regular ethernet cable.

 

[VirusType2]

See if this helps:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238135

You will want to make sure ICS is installed:
This article describes how to troubleshoot problems with Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on Windows 98 Second Edition-based computer.

Windows 98? This might be installed by default (or included on the windows installation disc) on later versions of Windows.

Everything I'm reading says it needs a crossover cable (like you said), though it's interesting what you uncovered about gigabit.

I'm like dying of curiosity here.

I personally always used a crossover cable for filesharing between two computers, but never knew you could allow one computer to use the others internet connection in this way. That could be extremely useful, since, for example, my 2nd PC is out of range to wirelessly connect, but it is within a cable length of my internet connected PC. So, it would be good for downloading updates and shit.

 

[Tyguy]

I need to do this as I'm definitely not buying a wireless adapter...what's the verdict, crossover cable or no?

 

[No Limit]

If dog doesn't come back I can try this at home later if I get some time.

 

[Dog--]

Dog, any updates on this? I'm curious if after you installed ICS if you got it working using a regular ethernet cable.

I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner but no I can't find anything to do. Nothing works.

 

[No Limit]

Were you able to install ICS?

 

[Dog--]

No, I can't find it to install it.

I cant bridge connection either - there is only one connection I have and it says I need two.

 

[No Limit]

No, I can't find it to install it.

I cant bridge connection either - there is only one connection I have and it says I need two.

Click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click Add/Remove Programs.
Click Internet Tools on the Windows Setup tab, and then click Details.
Click to select the Internet Connection Sharing check box, click OK, and then click OK again.
Follow the instructions to run the ICS wizard.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238135

 

[Dog--]

I seen that post earlier in the thread - I'm on vista I don't have add/remove programs I have programs and features, but even when I go to that I don't have internet tools or any windows setup tab.

 

[No Limit]

Under windows 7 under programs and features its called "Turn windows features on or off". See if you got that.

 

[No Limit]

Also try this guide set up specifically for Vista;

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Using-ICS-Internet-Connection-Sharing

 

[Dog--]

It says ICS doesn't work if I only have one connection, which I do.. **** I don't think this will work without another.

I enable everything using what you said, and now I have 2 connections (1 of which is unactive), and I still can't bridge and I cant' select properties>sharing tab I dont' have a sharing tab.

 

[No Limit]

How can you do internet connection sharing if you only have one connection? If you have a wireless adapter and your ethernet port you should have 2 connections before you change any settings. Was that not the case?