How important are reviews to you?

Kristafon

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Its suprised me when recently I found out how many people simply dont read game reviews. I dont think games are only as good as theire reviews are, but I do trust them. By the time I have my opinion, I have spent my own money, and its a bit to late then if my opinion is bad. So I use reviews as a guide.

I think games are lot less about opinion than, say, films. Since games offer one basic thing- fun, there is less to have an opinion on. So in my view if a game is very fun, its very fun. Since movies offer so many other things, emotion, suspence, a detailed story, the opinions on them are a lot more varied.

Its ture that games have movie like qualities like above, but in the end what it comes down to is the gameplay. The gameplay, by massive majority, is the greatest part of the game. You dont play movies do you?

This is why it annoys me when people say "I dont read reviews because its only thier opinion". When a lot of reviews say a game is good, then its obviously fun to play. And usually all the major magasines and sites have simillar reviews, because of what I said before, the gameplay is what it comes down to and people tend to agree one that. That is because games reviewers come to game for the same thing- gameplay. With movies critics come for many things, these different things are on totally different levels and while one critic might like a movie becuase he "got what he came for" anouther might not like it because he didnt get what he wanted, and what was good is underated. The gameplay is what gamers come from, and they seem to agree a lot more on how much they like it. Why do you think Halo 2 has got such a massive following? All the XBOXers came to Halo for fun, and they got fun. And I have yet to meet someone who didnt, unless its someone whos only played it for half an hour and thinks he knows everything. Everyone came for GAME and that got that, GAME.

Now think about the movie 21 Grams. Most of the ciritics agree its a brilliant movie, infact its one of the best dramas of this age, and proably a better movie than Halo is a game. So, why hasnt this movie got such a massive fanbase? Where is the sequal? This is why- the average joes of movies came to it looking for what they usually get at the cinema, unbelivable action and a total disregard for storyline. Instead they get long drawn out dialogue, the tiniest bit of action and an ending which dosent blow you away with volume and cgi-glory. They didnt get what they wanted and didnt like the movie.

But evryone came to halo wanting the same thing and got that.
So the reviews where good.
Do the the revieiwers could tell people looking for exactly the same thing they will get it.
Which is why I trust reviews and think reviews can be trusted.

Thankyou for getting this far. And please dont start saying "w00t hal0 sux0r" I only used that game as an example. Maybe I could have used half-life or grand theft auto. And thers proably someone here who dosent like one of those three. Id like to put emphasis on "almost everyone".
 
I like to use reviews as a guideline, but after the Deus Ex: Invisible War fiasco I don't hold much faith in them anymore.
 
JamesPicard_007 said:
I like to use reviews as a guideline, but after the Deus Ex: Invisible War fiasco I don't hold much faith in them anymore.

I agree. Why the hell did that load of crap get such good reviews?
 
No, they're useless. I wouldn't have played a few games which I really like had it been for reviews. Games like The Getaway get low marks because they're made to be immersive movie-like experiences. Reviewers, being primarily gaming nerds who care more about framerate and pop-up than the immersiveness and plot of a game gave it fairly low marks. Driver 3, probably the single best car chase game ever, got downright horrible reviews because of hardly noticeable technical problems. On the other hand True Crimes gets high marks and has average gameplay and the single stupidest plot I have been subjected to outside of porn movies.
 
How important are reviews to you?
Very important. Especially video games. I trust PC Gamer with rating PC games, and Official Xbox Magazine with rating Xbox games. :D
They have yet to let me down. :cheers:
 
sometimes I listen the reviews
but if I were following a game cuz looks very cool and get bad reviews that dont mean I will not play it
 
i hold reveiws very highly. if a game gets 60%, even if its a game that i wanted to buy, i probally wont buy it. but the reverse doesnt apply- i dont go out and buy a game if it got good scores. thought if i was loking for any game in a genre i would probally go with the one that i liked and had the best scores :)

and i agree with the reviews 95% of the time. i love DE:IW- not as much as the first one granted, but i think its a great game.
 
I wont get a game that has a bad review...


But a game that has a good review doesnt mean I will buy the game.




I usually look to game demos for that. :)
 
I read reviews, but I try not to concentrate too much on scores. I read the review (gasp!) to find out about the game itself, not how it stacks up against the competition.

marksmanHL2 :) said:
I usually look to game demos for that. :)

Right on. We have a winnar :thumbs:
 
marksmanHL2 :) said:
I usually look to game demos for that. :)
True, in a way. But I'd rather have an official magazine review the full game than for me to play an unfinished portion of the game.
 
I dont have much time for pc games as i used to so i have to chose wisely.
Normaly i know before hand what im looking for loke HL2 or Rome total war but games here are always sold a few weeks after US release so i get to read comments of ppl who know about games.Us gamers i trust reviews made by gamers.Not "arg i hate the graphcis game sux" type of comments.

I read a few reviews made by pros but that is not the decider of where i eill spend my money.
 
I read reviews for every game i'm thinking about buying (unless it's a tried and tested series that i always buy - PES, ChampManager/FM now, GTA etc).

I'll only take the score in if it's a game i'm wavering about getting. If HL2 got 60% then i would still buy it.
 
smwScott said:
No, they're useless. I wouldn't have played a few games which I really like had it been for reviews. Games like The Getaway get low marks because they're made to be immersive movie-like experiences. Reviewers, being primarily gaming nerds who care more about framerate and pop-up than the immersiveness and plot of a game gave it fairly low marks. Driver 3, probably the single best car chase game ever, got downright horrible reviews because of hardly noticeable technical problems. On the other hand True Crimes gets high marks and has average gameplay and the single stupidest plot I have been subjected to outside of porn movies.
Driver 3?!?!? that game was total crap. The GTA games are what it was trying to copy but didnt come close. And it looked like PS1 graphics.
 
Kristafon said:
I agree. Why the hell did that load of crap get such good reviews?

Because its a good game? :hmph: Seriously...stop comparing it to the first and you'll find its actually a good game. I never played the first Deus Ex and only the second one and i thought it was a good game because im not comparing it to anything.
 
B.Calhoun said:
Driver 3?!?!? that game was total crap. The GTA games are what it was trying to copy but didnt come close. And it looked like PS1 graphics.

Driver 2 was out a long time before GTA3, and it was more similar to D3 than GTA is. The graphics are better than SA. And the game was not crap, did you even play it or are you talking out of your ass, because the graphics comment is just incorrect.
 
Kristafon said:
I agree. Why the hell did that load of crap get such good reviews?

Maybe because not everyone thought the game was a load of crap.

It had quite a bit to live up to but was by no means a load of crap as you put it.
 
I stopped believing in review a while ago. Once upon a time when PC Gaming was smaller and less demanding I could trust reviews. In fact I could play a game and exactly agree with its review for a given PC gaming magazine. As the PC Gaming industry has become more consolidated (ie EA and Vivendi), it has become much harder to trust reviews.

I bought BF:V based on its reviews and was heavily, heavily disappointed.

As for movies that are critically acclaimed but never a commercial success, PC Games have those types. They are more rare because games are so much more expensive to buy (which means I can't go out on a limb and try a new game every once in a while). My cult favorite (I wish I still had the game, lost the CD a long time ago) was a game called Uprising, an aboslutely brilliant Strategy-Action game. The System Shock series is also another cult series of PC Games. Although you may have heard of System Shock, very few people bought that game. Otherwise we would have System Shock 3 or 4 right now.

I think games and movies maybe good, but never commercially succesful because they do something really well, but they never appeal to a whole bunch of people. It doesn't have anything to do with reviews, most people want "comfort food".
 
Kristafon, I don't mean to poke holes in what you're saying, but I think you can break it down further.

Games do offer fun, but a lot of people have fun a the movies.

We can go deeper than fun though. I think movies and games share more than what you're saying, and thats entertainment. That is the basic level of the two and yes it's all opinion. This is why we have previews and game rentals...so we can see for ourselves if this is for us or not. I read reviews not to have them tell me whether or not I should play a game, I read them to get someone elses take on it. I already know the types of games I like to play and I think most gamers do as well. To the extent of the unbiased information reviews give you, ie. hours of play, type of game, storyline, etc, they are in essence complete rubbish. If you purchase a game souly on the basis of a review, you deserve to be dissappointed.

Case in point. Far Cry got mostly extremely favorable reviews, although I had already planned on playing the demo, I tried it and found it to be complete poo and would never buy it. Reviews should be used to get actual information about a game so you can get a sense if it's for you or not, but you have to shift through the rolling commentary and rants.....then try it.
 
JamesPicard_007 said:
I like to use reviews as a guideline, but after the Deus Ex: Invisible War fiasco I don't hold much faith in them anymore.
Kristafon said:
I agree. Why the hell did that load of crap get such good reviews?

I played DX-IW for about 2 hours - but didn't go further - it sucked too much ...

I started playing Deus Ex 1 again - THAT is what i call a "game".
 
I get few games, actually. There are a few games that I will get regardless of any reviews, previews, whatever - those are games from series I know. For instance, the Civilization series I love, and I'll buy any game from that series, even if people say it's bad. Though I get it before reviews come, anyway. So, if I really have my mind on some game (Civ 4, HL2, etc.), I will be getting it regardless.

Reviews matter for me in random games. Sometimes when I just want some game, I read the reviews, take the releveant bits and try to decide if I'd like it. Though recently some GameSpot reviews have been getting idiotic... it's possible to gather something. If you read 5 reviews for a RPG and each of them says that the camera control sucks, it probably is true. If several reviews say the game has a tendency to crash, it's probably true. Now, trusting reviews for gameplay is hard. After all, the reviewer might just not like the kind of gameplay provided by that game, rate it lower, while it's what I like. Heck, give a strategy game to someone who only likes fast-paced shooters, and he'd probably give the gameplay a 6/10, even if it's a great strategy game.
 
Somewhat important...

For example, I thought KillZone was supposed to be a good game, but it only got a 6.9...

But then again didn't NFS:U only get 7.9 ?

I thought it was a much better game than that.

Also I am referring to Gamespot.
 
Reviews dont mean an awful lot to me...they sometimes come into play on what games i buy, but not often, if ever...like i would'nt go out and buy halo2 now after reading several reviews talking about its lack of SP... but if like reviewers found WoW boring and scored it at a 8/10...i'd be like "WTF MAN this is the best game to bless us gamers in years on end...get out your ass!" and buy it whatever the **** reviewers thought because at the end of the day, bottom of the line they are ordinary people like me and you with an opinion although they are more suttle at putting it across than the average gamer because they have a wage to take into account before they really start speaking their mind.
 
Deus Ex: IW wasn't THAT bad



I mean sure it was a disappointment, and was inferious to it's predessesor, but it still was a pretty good game
 
they aren't extremely important, but i like to look at them to see their views on the game
 
smwScott said:
Driver 2 was out a long time before GTA3, and it was more similar to D3 than GTA is. The graphics are better than SA. And the game was not crap, did you even play it or are you talking out of your ass, because the graphics comment is just incorrect.

Driver1 was the best driving game I have ever played. 2 and 3 were crap period. D2 was racing to beat gta3 in the calendar and crashed in the way... D3 had so many technical problems that for me at least was unplayable... (PS2 version major slow downs).
 
I don't read magazines, I can make up my own mind if a game is worth buying or not.
 
XBORGZORZ said:
Driver1 was the best driving game I have ever played. 2 and 3 were crap period. D2 was racing to beat gta3 in the calendar and crashed in the way... D3 had so many technical problems that for me at least was unplayable... (PS2 version major slow downs).

I love when people put the word "period" at the end of sentences as if it gives their opinion more validity. Driver 1 was amazing, Driver 2 was worse but still good. Driver 3 would have been the best of them all had it focused more on driving and less on the on-foot aspect. It's still the game I go to for car chases. The game was far from unplayable, and the slowdown wasn't as bad as GTA:SA. Technically, the game is far superior to the GTA series.

Don't get me wrong, I like GTA:SA much better than Driver 3, but Driver 3 has some definite advantages over it.
 
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