How we got to the Borealis...

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Yes, how would Gordon and his fiancee get to the Borealis quick like? Boat, plane, or will Mossman find teleport in there and hook it up with some other one or something like that?



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Well so far all we can speculate on is the use of the helicopter found in the hanger.
 
McCoy said:
Can helis go that long?
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They've been planning to use it so the chopper was obviously more than capable to reach the place where Borealis was. We are not sure if the ship is in arctic. It could be in those mountains we saw while driving to White forest.
 
I'd say that the chopper is more than capable, but due to the halflife style. The Helicopter will crash and you will have to find another way.

Srsly, the whole game is just them putting obstacles in your way, nothing ever goes smoothly.
 
Zarzak said:
They've been planning to use it so the chopper was obviously more than capable to reach the place where Borealis was. We are not sure if the ship is in arctic. It could be in those mountains we saw while driving to White forest.
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No.

5char
 
Of course the helicopter will reach its destination! Well close enough, and then crashing rather spectacularly. Somehow ridding Gordon of all his weapons and tossing Alyx in a nearby snow pile.. Thank goodness the gravity gun has remained in tact!
 
What has the gravity gun ever done for me? And on a more happy note, it has done lots for me.

But if the Borealis is in the Arctic, how would a helicopter actually travel all that way? We all know that helis aren't meant for that kind of long range flight.


Screenshot anyone?
 
obviously, we would be pitstopping here and there and fueling up and fighting some epic battles at villages or locations here and there. I don't think valve would want ep3 to be a 10 hour long helicopter ride. Brains my friend, god gave them for a reason.
 
Alyx tells us that. Listen again.

Right after you seal the secondary silo, before you watch the transmission again. The Vortigaunt in the labcoat is there.
 
soulslicer said:
obviously, we would be pitstopping here and there and fueling up and fighting some epic battles at villages or locations here and there. I don't think valve would want ep3 to be a 10 hour long helicopter ride. Brains my friend, god gave them for a reason.
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Hopping frequently isn't my idea of a good time. And where r u going to stop at in the ocean assuming that the Borealis is in the Arctic?
 
McCoy said:
Hopping frequently isn't my idea of a good time. And where r u going to stop at in the ocean assuming that the Borealis is in the Arctic?
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you are in europe currently. there are countries north/south of you.....plus the ocean is dried up alot.
 
Zarzak said:
They've been planning to use it so the chopper was obviously more than capable to reach the place where Borealis was. We are not sure if the ship is in arctic. It could be in those mountains we saw while driving to White forest.
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Actually, they just recently discovered the existence of the Borealis. Their decision to use the helicopter was a hasty one, although if a helicopter can drop an unlimited number of bombs, perhaps this one can carry an unlimited amount of fuel.
 
Helicopter will crash in the middle of an ocean and then you will see a lighthouse in the distance. You and Alyx will swim towards it and enter it. Suddenly the lights will turn on and you will find a bathysphere that will lower you to the underwater city. There you will find some kind of potions that will enable you to shoot fire and lightning from your hands. You won't find any crowbars down there, but the wrench should do the trick. Then you will be stuck there, doomed to listen "Beyond The Sea" for eternity! Or not...
 
I know bringing this stuff up is old hat, but in 'Raising the Bar' the old HL2 route map showed the arctic region being on the far side of a small inland sea, kinda like the baltic sea, the borealis was to take you one way, and a C-130 was to take you back, but a transport helicopter like the one seen in episode 2 could happily make that journey on its own.
 
Lobster said:
I know bringing this stuff up is old hat, but in 'Raising the Bar' the old HL2 route map showed the arctic region being on the far side of a small inland sea, kinda like the baltic sea, the borealis was to take you one way, and a C-130 was to take you back, but a transport helicopter like the one seen in episode 2 could happily make that journey on its own.
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My god, what are you talking about? Far side of a small inland sea, c-130's and all.
 
giant384 said:
you are in europe currently. there are countries north/south of you.....plus the ocean is dried up alot.
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We don't know, that the ocean is dried up. We know that the combine are draining the ocean but the air pollution caused by the 7-hour-war would have increased the temperature on earth, which makes the polar cap melting.
 
Red said:
We don't know, that the ocean is dried up. We know that the combine are draining the ocean but the air pollution caused by the 7-hour-war would have increased the temperature on earth, which makes the polar cap melting.
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/facepalm
 
Druckles said:
North Russia's almost an artic climate. Can't be that far to fly.
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Spot on. The arctic is defined as everything that falls at a latitude north of the arctic circle. Here is a wikipedia map for reference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:World_map_with_arctic_circle.jpg

Depending on where city 17 is...they don't really have far to go. Considering the fact that there are some heli's that can fly in excess of 400 miles without refueling (or longer) I don't really see how we can reach the conclusion that they picked a poor mode of travel based on the information that we have.
 
Hell, from that map we might only be flying to scandinavia.
 
If we DO get to use the heli, will we pilot it? If not i sense a turret-ish mission...
 
Red said:
We don't know, that the ocean is dried up. We know that the combine are draining the ocean but the air pollution caused by the 7-hour-war would have increased the temperature on earth, which makes the polar cap melting.
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First of all, the ice caps melt and re-freeze ALL THE TIME.

Secondly, there is no evidence to link rising polution and rising temperatures. Al Gore is a hack. (Although theres no evidence that CO2 dosn't effect it. We just don't know for sure. You ask me, the sun is the most likely dictator of our temperature)

And finally, We've already seen Mossman in the transmission up North and THERE IS SNOW everywhere.

Don't mean to be a dick. Just thought that was kind of a stupid thing to say.

I think we'll get to the Borealis through many diffent means, each one failing and providing new gameplay.
 
HL2 + Episodes have always had Gordon "waking up". I think Episode 3 will have Gordon starting on foot, or from helicopter wreckage. Valve has said they use "tutorials on the run" kind of learning processes to acquaint the player with the world even if that player hasn't played any of the previous episodes.
 
McCoy said:
If we DO get to use the heli, will we pilot it? If not i sense a turret-ish mission...
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Exactly, do we know how to fly a chopper? Driving a car sure, but a heli? Would a theoretical scientist have had flying lessons? Perhaps Alyx will turn out to have had flying lessons, if she's been with the resistance all this time and had to fly supplies, who knows. Perhaps we'll get a pilot instead, although it was only Gordon, Alyx and Eli going to see his daughter off heading towards the hanger.

ZachAttack said:
First of all, the ice caps melt and re-freeze ALL THE TIME.
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No they don't. Ice Ages come and go but not in the space of 20 years.


ZachAttack said:
We've already seen Mossman in the transmission up North and THERE IS SNOW everywhere.
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We don't know it's up north it could be somewhere in the mountains, could even be antarctica for all we know.


Secondly, there is no evidence to link rising polution and rising temperatures. Al Gore is a hack.
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No, he isn't.
 
Actually the ice caps DO melt and reform
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=52&id=1511932007
I happens not just during the ice age... and we're still in a inter glacial period so our weather is subject to alot of change.

Alex actually said Judith headed NORTH in a heli

And Al Gore is a hack. He fudges his charts. Historically CO2 rises after the temperature changes. If the rise in temperature is the fault of industry and humans then why are the ice caps on Mars melting? Is our CO2 leaking? No.
Essentially our planet is caught within the Sun's atmosphere. Thats not to say Carbon and other greenhouse gasses don't effect our climate. They just account for a very small percent of temperature change.

And people need to stop refering to Carbon as a pollutant. Its on the damn periodic table for christ sake.

but this is neither the time nor forum.

One things for sure though, Half-Life is awesome.
 
You can't just go totally off topic and say "But this is neither the place nor the time". That just eggs the other side on.
 
Pesmerga said:
You can't just go totally off topic and say "But this is neither the place nor the time". That just eggs the other side on.
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sure i can.

i just did.
but i am sorry.
i just really hate global warming nuts. might be because my dad is a geologist so i was raised with a good understanding of earths history.

Humans are so caught withing their own spectrum of what is.
In the 70's, earth was globally cooling and everyone thought it was the beginning of another Ice Age.
 
Well, if you look at the sky in HL2 its a little cloudy, but that's europe for you. Anyways. Maybe there's some abandoned oil rig we don't know about.


And as an easter egg, do you think there could be a map in the EP2 base.
 
It will probably start of with the death of Eli, ehm,
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Fade in from black exactly where we left of or 2 mins before. Then Magnusson and co run in asking what just happend. Maybe a cutscene of Ep. 2.
Vorts do some voodoo or Heli ride where gman drops in and interrupts the ride, seperating Gordon from Alyx.
 
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