Humans vs. Nature

Einstein

And it's WWIV not WWIIII
 
With people complaining about things some scientists do as a "Crime against nature", do you think that for example cross-breeding a human and a cheetah is a crime against nature, or since humans are part of nature, but us being the most intelligent on earth and having the ability to do so, gives us authority to do it?

"When mankind falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born".

I'm not so sure we understand nature enough to start meddling with its rules, creatures, its life, and its death.
 
Can dolphins speak? no they use beeps and stuff (I think it's sonar but I can't remember...), do dolphins have cities underwater? no? do dolphins fly? Can dolphins do algebra? Has a dolphin ever invented ANYTHING using raw materials?

That's what I though! :D
 
Yeah, but perhaps he means potentially. Anyway dolphins are just ****ing cool.
 
Dolphins do speak, but not our language, research shows that the innane squeaks and clicks actually do mean different things, similar to a wolf's howl, they are able to tell other dolphins kilometres away their condition, mood, saftey etc. Our main problem when it comes to comparing ourselves with other animal's communication is that we only compare them to our language and not them.

Does a dolphin even NEED to do algebra? No.

Can you fly? No.

Have you ever invented anything using raw materials? No.

We aren't the most intellegent creatures on the planet, but we the most developed.
 
That's why I said they use beeps and stuff, it's not efficiant enough for me. English works fine.

They don't need algebra because they have no city/science/technology/anything.

I can fly, other people have built a plane for me to fly in the air, maybe I can use a hang-glider?

Yes, I used a rock and dried out long-grass and I made a sling.

In your face! :)


Oh BTW, I was watching this thing on these dinosaurs who had larger than normal brains, and if these dinosaurs didn't die out, they would be the most intelligent, they would evolve to stand on 2 legs, the only thing we have better then them is thumbs. They might even be building space ships for personal use, they would ahve been THAT smart by now!
 
Danimal said:
Dolphins do speak, but not our language, research shows that the innane squeaks and clicks actually do mean different things, similar to a wolf's howl, they are able to tell other dolphins kilometres away their condition, mood, saftey etc. Our main problem when it comes to comparing ourselves with other animal's communication is that we only compare them to our language and not them.

Does a dolphin even NEED to do algebra? No.

Human beings is the most intelligent beings in the planet.

Dolphins speak. But there is no real language system. There is not even words. There is no language system in the world of animals(except human). This is a well-known FACT. Scream or squeak is not a true language system. They cannot build up complex sentences by that.

Danimal said:
Can you fly? No.


We can fly by plane, actually. Intelligence have nothing to do with our phyiscal abilities. A bird flies, but it is not intelligent. We can build a plane, that shows us we are intelligent.


Danimal said:
Have you ever invented anything using raw materials? No.

I have never, but I can. I just don't invent it because I have all the thing in my daily life. We know what is necessary and what is unnecessary. Invent with raw materials means nothing. However, human can invent with both raw and non-raw materials, that what other beings cannot do.

Danimal said:
We aren't the most intellegent creatures on the planet, but we the most developed.

You are just being stupid. Ask yourself, why human is the most developed? Why other beings cannot be the most developed. Because we are the most intelligent! We can develop complicated things and other animals don't. Have you ever seen a dolphin try to write words? Have you even seen a monkey try to make a fire with sticks? Have you even seen a sea lion built a trap to catch fish? I cannot see them. Yet I can see human build cars, mansions, guns, etc.
 
Dog-- said:
Can dolphins speak? no they use beeps and stuff (I think it's sonar but I can't remember...), do dolphins have cities underwater? no? do dolphins fly? Can dolphins do algebra? Has a dolphin ever invented ANYTHING using raw materials?

That's what I though! :D

'It is an important and popular fact that things are not always what they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man -- for precisely the same reasons.'
-Douglas Adams​
 
Danimal said:
Dolphins do
Does a dolphin even NEED to do algebra? No.
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If they didn't have sonar, they would. :naughty:
 
Jintor said:
'It is an important and popular fact that things are not always what they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man -- for precisely the same reasons.'
-Douglas Adams​

Hmm.. I really like that quote :) Thank you for sharing.
 
Jintor said:
'It is an important and popular fact that things are not always what they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man -- for precisely the same reasons.'
-Douglas Adams​

You are right. On the Earth, we are the most intelligent. Yet when we come to the entire universe, we aren't. However, we are still the most intelligent on the Earth.
 
bbson_john said:
You are right. On the Earth, we are the most intelligent. Yet when we come to the entire universe, we aren't. However, we are still the most intelligent on the Earth.

We 'ARE' the most intelligent in the universe, until we discover an intelligence which rivals ours. You can't just assume there are beings out there more intelligent than us. There may be, but it's foolish saying we're less intelligent based on an unfounded belief. For all you know, the only other intelligent life out there could be equivilent to our life. Intelligent, but not as intelligent as us.
 
bbson_john said:
You are right. On the Earth, we are the most intelligent. Yet when we come to the entire universe, we aren't. However, we are still the most intelligent on the Earth.

You missed my point entirely.
 
bbson_john said:
You are right. On the Earth, we are the most intelligent. Yet when we come to the entire universe, we aren't. However, we are still the most intelligent on the Earth.
Did you even read the quote?
 
Jintor said:
You missed my point entirely.

Oops. I got some points that I don't understand, but I thought it is unnecessary. This proves that I am wrong. Can you explain a bit? :x
 
Basically, the quote is pointing out that although we're more sophisticated, that doesn't neccesarily mean we're more intelligent.

Is english your best language? I'm not going to ask whether it's your first language because I've forgotton most of my first language (Cantonese)
 
Wait.. isn't english the hardest language to learn? So, that proves it!!! English speaking people are the smartest people on earth!!!

Humans can do clicks and beeps too, were just not stupid enough to do that, instead we've developed our own language! :D
 
But clicks and beeps ARE their own language. -_-
 
Yea, a crappy language :D

What kind of language is beeps...

Listen to this scentence in beeps.

Beep, beep, higher pitches beep, click, boop.

What an amazing language... that mean dolphins can't have the interents!
 
Buh, hah, right, if they're so damn smart, how come they get caught in those fishing nets all the time?
 
Danimal said:
Our main problem when it comes to comparing ourselves with other animal's communication is that we only compare them to our language and not them.

:rolleyes:
 
If we're so damned smart, why do we keep exploding ourselves?
 
If dolphins are so smart how come they can't even make a bomb to explode themselves?

Huh?
 
Dog-- said:
If dolphins are so smart how come they can't even make a bomb to explode themselves?

Huh?
Because it's smarter not to.
 
Dog-- said:
If dolphins are so smart how come they can't even make a bomb to explode themselves?

Huh?

:laugh: No that's something only we humans are good at.
 
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