I have social problems (with girls). Is this normal or do I need professional help?

[kngHenry]

I am 25 years old. I have problems talking to women. I don't mind talking to guys but in general I am very shy. Doesn't sound overly abnormal so far. Places like "www.fastseduction.com" refer to people like me as Average Frustrated Chumps, but I know I am worse than that. For example, an "AFC" is a guy with average looks who doesn't know how to seduce a woman, almost never gets laid, and when he does, it is mainly out of luck.

My case is a bit different, if not worse. Let's say that my looks are average, but the problem is that I want to get laid but I don't want to have to put on a show to do so. These "players" who get laid have to put on a show. For example, they fluff talk with women, they talk about her feelings and then feed them back to them in their own words. They know how to respond to women's "shit tests". Some guys are just naturals, some other imitate the naturals, hence putting on a show.

When I was 15 year olds I made a conscious effort to change my life. I reinvented myself. I said to myself "No more humiliations". "No more worrying about my appearance". "Experience has told me it isn't going to add up to anything, just humiliations". "I just don't have what it takes to seduce a woman, so be it". And that's how I became who I am today. The ironic part is that I would like to have a girlfriend, a female friend, or just a sex partner. It doesn't matter. I just want a woman but somehow I cannot make them like me.

I can't put up with their shit. I don't understand the way they think. Why do they care if I am a geek or not? Why do they care if I have "social proof"? Why is telling a woman that you have never had a girlfriend considered a red flag? Sure she will think I am weird, but at least I am making an effort to get to KNOW HER, and all they give are these bitch shields, as if they were ****ing royalty.

As a wise man once said: "If not playing these seduction games means not getting laid, it is a bargain". I couldn't agree more, but at the same time I sure wish playing these seduction games were not such a big deal for me. I wish I could also get laid, I wish I could also have a girlfriend, I wish I could also talk about my problems with a woman, but I can't. My problem goes beyond learning seduction techniques, I am almost sure of that.

 

[Da-Muffin-Man]

You sound like that kid from American Pie :upstare:

P.S. Why are you posting on an internet forum to get help? If you believe you need it get a counselor or w/e they're called.

 

[jabberwock95]

How do you normally meet people? Work/Uni/Bars?

Does your immediate circle of friends contain any women?

Maybe you lack confidence when talking to women, just try to put sex out of your mind.

If all else fails, screw it. Remain single, be geeky, and be glad you dont have to please anyone other than yourself.

 

[CrazyHarij]

You need to put some effort in to gain balls, become more of a dominant man. The stuff on fastseduction actually works, it's changed so much in my attitude to people and especially women, and it works great. Still i've worked hard on not being an asshole, thanks to having alot of contact with girls i've started understanding more how they think and how a good guy really should be.

You don't have to be a "player", I'm not, but the site resources on bodylanguage, being the dominant alpha-male etc really work.

I'm going to share with you some things I've talked with my stepsister about this.

Basically I've complained loudly at all the fluff talk/hinting/whatnot but she's always responded that IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED.

She said these players have to do all that random shit because the girls are not interested in them at all, but eventually are convinced to with all the shit. A girls interest in a man, especially in club areas, is almost alawys a "first sight" thing. She sees a guy, the guy sees her, magic, they dance, etc.

You need to be more observant, eyecontact with girls is great.

Bitch shields etc are only the pretentious shallow asshole girls who think they're queens of the show.

I don't understand the way they think.

Neither do the guys at fast-seduction. They only know how to work them. Girls are VERY emotional. They think almost exclusively in an emotional impulsive way.

I think it's wonderful to talk with them because of that, they're just so incredibly interesting.

All you need is balls and courage. To be good with girls you need to be good with guys too. Don't act ike you are inferior to any guy. Never ever lower your eyes infront of someone.

It just seems like you're lazy. You're not going to get any result without any effort.

Oh, and when you do get laid, make sure the girl enjoys it. Being a good lover is about having sex with the entire body of the girl, not just the genitals. And foreplay is extremely important. The stuff you see in romantic movies where the guy gently kisses her everywhere is a good source.

 

[CptStern]

I am 25 years old. I have problems talking to women. I don't mind talking to guys but in general I am very shy. Doesn't sound overly abnormal so far. Places like "www.fastseduction.com" refer to people like me as Average Frustrated Chumps, but I know I am worse than that. For example, an "AFC" is a guy with average looks who doesn't know how to seduce a woman, almost never gets laid, and when he does, it is mainly out of luck.

My case is a bit different, if not worse. Let's say that my looks are average, but the problem is that I want to get laid but I don't want to have to put on a show to do so. These "players" who get laid have to put on a show. For example, they fluff talk with women, they talk about her feelings and then feed them back to them in their own words. They know how to respond to women's "shit tests". Some guys are just naturals, some other imitate the naturals, hence putting on a show.

When I was 15 year olds I made a conscious effort to change my life. I reinvented myself. I said to myself "No more humiliations". "No more worrying about my appearance". "Experience has told me it isn't going to add up to anything, just humiliations". "I just don't have what it takes to seduce a woman, so be it". And that's how I became who I am today. The ironic part is that I would like to have a girlfriend, a female friend, or just a sex partner. It doesn't matter. I just want a woman but somehow I cannot make them like me.

I can't put up with their shit. I don't understand the way they think. Why do they care if I am a geek or not? Why do they care if I have "social proof"? Why is telling a woman that you have never had a girlfriend considered a red flag? Sure she will think I am weird, but at least I am making an effort to get to KNOW HER, and all they give are these bitch shields, as if they were ****ing royalty.

As a wise man once said: "If not playing these seduction games means not getting laid, it is a bargain". I couldn't agree more, but at the same time I sure wish playing these seduction games were not such a big deal for me. I wish I could also get laid, I wish I could also have a girlfriend, I wish I could also talk about my problems with a woman, but I can't. My problem goes beyond learning seduction techniques, I am almost sure of that.

let's get something straight ..your looks dont get you laid (ok I'm sure for brad pitt yes, but we dont all look like that) ...your brain gets you laid ...just talk to women like you would a man ...ok scratch that ..talk to woman as you would to an old friend ..oh and striking a conversation with a woman is easy ...just ask her about herself ..woman love to talk about themselves ...a bit of generalising but it does work ...I have a friend who is fairly good looking had a well developed body (worked out all the time) yet he'd find it hard attracting women ...you'd understand as soon as he opened his mouth ...women are humans ...they dont care about fancy cars, your computer, sports, wrestling, action movies or beer (at least the ones worth keeping) .....once you skip the machismo, once you strip away the artiface that always comes from strutting in front of the opposite sex will you find that women are more receptive to you and may even be a lot like you



oh btw are you dating women your own age or younger? most women at age 21 dont necisarily want to find a partner ..older women do ...but not too old cuz then the dreaded "how do you feel about children" question's bound to pop up

 

[Pesmerga]

Oh The Drama

 

[diluted]

I have the same problem as you. I'm so awkward with women. :[

 

[Ennui]

every guy is awkward with women (at first anyway)... some of us just can overcome it or fake being comfortable.

 

[ailevation]

;( I have women problems too.

 

[Ennui]

You need to put some effort in to gain balls

Best quote ever.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Sorry but I read half of the first paragraph and you can't get anywhere without an effort. It's not going to work, you're not going to attract anyone by just being idle.

edit: You may also want to just make friends with some women. Not for anything more, but just friends. It'll help you understand how to socialize better with them, thus it won't be a big deal at all to get to know another one. And don't try to seduce your friend unless naturally as with time you guys end up growing on each other (which usually develops into love that way rather than just the lust you'd get with women you might just see somewhere )


edit2: CrazyHarij reminds me of a Tourrettesguy.com quote. "YOU CAN'T DO SHIT, WITHOUT YOUR BALLS!." "LET ME TELL YOU, ABOUT A PORCUPINE'S BALLS. THEY'RE SMALL...... AND THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT!!!"

 

[xcellerate]

well i think your going about it the wrong way. Don't look for just someone to have sex with, that's a bad mindset. Women are different than men in more ways than you learned in 11th grade biology. Your shyness sounds like it is coming from a pressure you’re creating because you feel that every women you meet is a potential sex partner and you feel you have to impress them.

You can be a total geek and still have no problem with women, the trick is not to talk about it, or just be cute about it. If a girl asks if you know how to help her roommate get her laptop onto the schools network, you could say, "Yea, you just open internet explorer go to internet options then change her proxy settings to proxy2.sbs.pvt.k12.ny.us and the port 8888, and it should be fine." Or you could say, "Yea i can, it's easy i just click stuff until something happens." Then go over there later that day and do what i said above. My point is, you can be a total geek, just don't go and geek-out all over here.

Yea, i wouldn't tell her you've never had a girlfriend. That is a red flag for obvious reasons. Just avoid the subject, or lie (yea i know, i'm a horrible person). This is a pretty iffy subject, it's hard to get real advice especially over the internet.

edit: forgot, if you got any girls who are just friends ask them what they think about you, itll tell you what you need to change if anything.

 

[kngHenry]

How do you normally meet people? Work/Uni/Bars?

I went to high school, college, and I blew my chances of meeting more people. It's too late. I don't frequent Bars and such, mainly because of my reluctance to play the games I mentioned above.

Does your immediate circle of friends contain any women?

No women. The only women I talk to are my mom and some female cousins I haven't seen in years.

If all else fails, screw it. Remain single, be geeky, and be glad you dont have to please anyone other than yourself.

That's been my attitude for the last 10 years, and it's not been very satisfying.

 

[Pulse]

Prostitutes for the win.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I think another part of the problem is just willing to go for friends with benefits. While hell that's what a lot of guys want, you can't go looking for women friends WITH that sort fo radiating off of you. While a lot of young people aren't looking to commit, they definately want at least some sort of short relationship with someone if things are going to get sexual. Not always, but for someone like you with your situation you're not going to be able to just go get sex. You're going to have to meet someone and actually date them for a while. Whether you do that because you genuinely like them or to just use them for sex is your own moral battle.

 

[jabberwock95]

I went to high school, college, and I blew my chances of meeting more people. It's too late. I don't frequent Bars and such, mainly because of my reluctance to play the games I mentioned above.

Sorry to sound cliche, but its never too late to meet people. Do you have a job? If you do I assume you work with some women unless you are a wrestler or something. Try just starting a conversation with someone you've seen before. If you both work in the same place, you have a good topic of conversation right there.

No women. The only women I talk to are my mom and some female cousins I haven't seen in years.

Well, go out and talk to some women. Being geeky has advantages, it goes hand-in-hand with being intelligent. Being intelligent and knowledgable is a good thing. Dont downplay geekiness, like xcellerate said, geeky people can be less intimidating, and women are more likely to be comfortable around you (even if you arent around them).


Theres no problem with being uncomfortable around women, all men are to different extents. Best thing to do it to just bite the bullet and drop casual 'hi's to women you meet. Its the first step to becoming more confident.

Whats the worst they could do?

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Or aim for geeky women. Some geeky women can be pretty hot. Go to places like libraries, and just talk to people.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[ComradeBadger]

To sum it all up:

I can't be bothered to make an effort to talk to people - I want them to come talk to me. I don't want to play games to get anywhere - but I want to get somewhere.



Forgive me if I misread that :|

 

[Murray_H]

Walk round with your cock hanging out of your trousers. Worked for me!

 

[kngHenry]

You need to put some effort in to gain balls, become more of a dominant man. The stuff on fastseduction actually works, it's changed so much in my attitude to people and especially women, and it works great. Still i've worked hard on not being an asshole, thanks to having alot of contact with girls i've started understanding more how they think and how a good guy really should be.

You don't have to be a "player", I'm not, but the site resources on bodylanguage, being the dominant alpha-male etc really work.

I'm going to share with you some things I've talked with my stepsister about this.

Basically I've complained loudly at all the fluff talk/hinting/whatnot but she's always responded that IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED.

She said these players have to do all that random shit because the girls are not interested in them at all, but eventually are convinced to with all the shit. A girls interest in a man, especially in club areas, is almost alawys a "first sight" thing. She sees a guy, the guy sees her, magic, they dance, etc.

You need to be more observant, eyecontact with girls is great.

Bitch shields etc are only the pretentious shallow asshole girls who think they're queens of the show.



Neither do the guys at fast-seduction. They only know how to work them. Girls are VERY emotional. They think almost exclusively in an emotional impulsive way.

I think it's wonderful to talk with them because of that, they're just so incredibly interesting.

All you need is balls and courage. To be good with girls you need to be good with guys too. Don't act ike you are inferior to any guy. Never ever lower your eyes infront of someone.

It just seems like you're lazy. You're not going to get any result without any effort.

Oh, and when you do get laid, make sure the girl enjoys it. Being a good lover is about having sex with the entire body of the girl, not just the genitals. And foreplay is extremely important. The stuff you see in romantic movies where the guy gently kisses her everywhere is a good source.

Crazyharij, I am glad to hear you are familiar with fastseduction.com!

The way they paint the picture is that anyone with average looks and who's not brain dead can get laid, without really dating, and without supplicating. So let me ask you something, from your own experience applying these techniques, do you find that to be true?

Also, how old were you when you started reading fastseduction.com? Were you as geeky and bitter to women as I am? At first I liked the picture they painted at fastseduction.com, but as I said before, I still feel my case is extreme, and let's be honest, the guy at fastseduction.com is also trying to sell you a book, so you never know if he's just telling desperate people what they want to hear.

I would like to hear more about your experience applying fastseduction.com's techniques.

 

[Pesmerga]

Wow you are a dork, if you need the internet to get the balls to ask someone out on a date, that's pretty ****ing pathetic.

 

[Tr0n]

Wow you are a dork, if you need the internet to get the balls to ask someone out on a date, that's pretty ****ing pathetic.

Harsh...but true.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Wow you are a dork, if you need the internet to get the balls to ask someone out on a date, that's pretty ****ing pathetic.

I dont understand this kind of post.. just dont post in the thread at all if this is how you feel.

 

[kngHenry]

Wow you are a dork, if you need the internet to get the balls to ask someone out on a date, that's pretty ****ing pathetic.

I don't need the internet to grow some balls, but sometimes advice from other people helps.

 

[chu]

I have re-entered my anti-social stage. During middle school high school I was quiet shy kid who didn't talk or hang out with anyone. Then senior year I started to go out and became much more sociable. Now I am back to stage 1, it sucks.

 

[Murray_H]

This is the secret to success

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/200000/images/_202564_rohypnol_150.jpg

Girls will be falling into bed with you. Just need a little bit of plink plink fizzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Maybe just get some pheremones.

They've done studies, you know. Sixty percent of the time it works every time.

 

[dream431ca]

I find women are not to hard to talk to. Just...talk to them. You'll know when you want to go a little further. It's not to good to think of every woman you meet a potential woman to go further with.

EDIT: You don't need proffesional help. Just try to have a ordinary conversation with one woman.

 

[Pesmerga]

I dont understand this kind of post.. just dont post in the thread at all if this is how you feel.

That's pretty ****ing pathetic too, defending someone who feels the need to spout his lack of manliness on a forum just full of masculinity (and some estrogen ).

I don't care what kind of inadaquacies you think you might have, there's really no need to make yourself look like the biggest ****ing loser on the earth.

 

[jabberwock95]

What is the deal recently with putting down people who want advice?

If I want advice, I would ask my friends. If I want a more diverse range of advice, or want some anonymous advice, I would ask somewhere exactly like this. A friendly community with a lot of people.

That is, minus the people who think asking for advice is a sign of weakness.

 

[Pesmerga]

If I want advice on what game to buy, I'll ask a forum, where the populace is experienced in the matter.

If I want advice on how to get laid, I'll ask someone who is experienced in the matter.

 

[kngHenry]

That's pretty ****ing pathetic too, defending someone who feels the need to spout his lack of manliness on a forum just full of masculinity (and some estrogen ).

I don't care what kind of inadaquacies you think you might have, there's really no need to make yourself look like the biggest ****ing loser on the earth.

Luckily for me, the internet is still anonymous.

 

[CrazyHarij]

The way they paint the picture is that anyone with average looks and who's not brain dead can get laid, without really dating, and without supplicating. So let me ask you something, from your own experience applying these techniques, do you find that to be true?

First of all, no, I haven't gotten laid using it, not something I'm trying to do either since I'm at least going to get the first time done with something a bit more special than a random girl. Besides, I can't get into clubs here.

I've talked with A LOT of girls, (the best way to learn, honestly) and yeah, it's true. Men are so obsessed about good looks but girls work in a totally different way. As I said, they are on an emotional level and actions are more important than the best looks ever.

I think it's important to lose the male logical process thinking abit and throw yourself into the moment.

Also, I can't stress enough how important it is to be yourself, and be natural. It's hard to be natural while having 4000 rules in the head and trying to notice every little thing etc etc, so don't. It's supposed to be natural, and it will eb with a little practice. Honestly, only the basic guidelines and things from that site are important.

Anyway, about the results that I _have_ gotten?
Well, I just have to say it's pretty damn easy to spot when you've done a hell of an impression on a girl. Besides, it's not just about that, it's about the balls. And having them. It feels amazing to be confident in almost every situation (becoming confident is not about gaining confidence, it's about losing inconfidence and shyness because they are completely useless).

Also, how old were you when you started reading fastseduction.com? Were you as geeky and bitter to women as I am?

I was just getting 17. I'm halfway to 18 now, and yeah.

I couldn't talk to girls/women at all. Not by a long shot. I'd stutter, forget what to say, being too shy to look them in the eyes and believe I'm an eyesore to every woman on earth. I honestly thought I was going to die alone, being scared of that big bad world of relationships.

At first I liked the picture they painted at fastseduction.com, but as I said before, I still feel my case is extreme

That's what I thought too. I think every guy does.

and let's be honest, the guy at fastseduction.com is also trying to sell you a book, so you never know if he's just telling desperate people what they want to hear.

He's doing abit of both. He's cramming a bunch of really desperate guides and things that some guys might need, but that's honestly the guys who can't be arsed to really learn about girls on a personal level.

I would like to hear more about your experience applying fastseduction.com's techniques.

Balls. Lots of balls. It was just a beginning thing, but with it it's helped me be so damn confident and funny with girls and of course that leading to them opening up and talking in a real honest way.

I wouldn't condone this piece of junk site if it didn't help me begin to learn what I've learned about chicks.

One thing a female friend told me was that girls absolutely love when a guy can spot what they're thinking while hiding what they say. The trick is to listen to the tone of her voice, and not her words. Actually, you can focus on that almost always and notice what they're saying.



I'd like to quote an earlier post by me, for a guy with a problem similar to yours:

Sigh.. This whole "asshole" thing is utterly stupid. Same with the idea that girls only like "jerks".

I really can't be arsed at the moment to write all that I should on the topic, but I'll try to summarize some things..

You may think sites like pickupguide.com and fastseduction.com are idiotic loser "how to get laid" pages, but they contain a whole lot of information on pretty much everything between confidence and a dominant attitude and things like female bodylanguage etc. It helps alot to know some of this stuff.

Some time ago I was afraid to even speak to girls, let alone look them in the eyes. But now I've gotten so confident it shows and it's simply amazing to see positive effects on girls I meet.

Being such a nerd I only had the knowledge from those sites at first, but now I have learnt so much just by talking with girls, it's so fun to exchange information and learn this. Now I can just say it's not a problem at all.

I don't know where to start, but girls like confident guys. Guys who shine and are alive. It varies alot between most girls of course, some like more dominant guys and younger girls of this kind tend to go with the "jerks". The "nice guy's" biggest problem is that he's an inferior kind of guy, he's usually afraid, clueless, inconfident etc. He supplicates to women and becomes their slave. Pretty much every girl I've talked about this with HATES it.

Girls also love it when you have a passion, get into hobbies like drawing or whatever.

I dunno.. I mean, just be yourself but be CONFIDENT. Don't excuse your own existance!

About looks, girls aren't so much about looks the way we are. Men's initial attraction is (simplified) the visual stuff, the body. Girls are similar and can be mesmerised by the looks of a particular guy (who might not look the way you think he does), but they are generally more attracted to the IMPRESSION. The way you act, talk, if you're smooth and funny it'll add to an impression.

The impression adds to the way a girl thinks a guy looks like. "That guy looks so sweet" may not be the looks alone, but the behaviour she's seen in him, his bodylanguage and what he talks about etc.

I think girls do like it when you are just "fresh", i.e dress properly, have a fitting hairstyle, use cologne and similar things. Just do the best with what you have.

It's important not to supplicate to women, to act like you are inferior, because you are not. Value yourself, think of yourself as the sexiest and coolest person alive. Don't value girls you meet higher than you, instead think if they don't like you, it's their loss because you are an amazing person with an incredibly interesting personality and lots of love to give. Be picky!

Be dominant in front of other guys, don't ever look down or away as a reaction (I think it's somewhat of an initial primal sign of inferiority), same thing with girls actually. It's not a crime to look at people.

I think a big mistake some guys do is to hide their sexuality in front of girls. They turn almost androgynous, something that gets you to "friend" but not beyond. Don't hide the fact that you are a sexual being. Some girls even seem to like when you come up with slightly dirty jokes, not "dirty" per se but things that are associated with sexuality and especially male sexuality.

A female friend of mine usually sighs or grunts when I do this and in a conversation once I asked why she had to be so uptight, she said that she actually likes it but hides it because it feels like she "has" to, most girls are very uptight and hide their sexuality somewhat in public. But as they say, "just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there."

I never consider myself a humoristic person but when I am myself among people and especially girls, I tend to be pretty funny. Not necessarily "joke" funny, but witty and keep conversations upbeat.

I really don't know what to say to help you..

I mean, just be yourself and move through this world without apology.

 

[baxter]

I am 25 years old. I have problems talking to women. I don't mind talking to guys but in general I am very shy. Doesn't sound overly abnormal so far. Places like "www.fastseduction.com" refer to people like me as Average Frustrated Chumps, but I know I am worse than that. For example, an "AFC" is a guy with average looks who doesn't know how to seduce a woman, almost never gets laid, and when he does, it is mainly out of luck.

My case is a bit different, if not worse. Let's say that my looks are average, but the problem is that I want to get laid but I don't want to have to put on a show to do so. These "players" who get laid have to put on a show. For example, they fluff talk with women, they talk about her feelings and then feed them back to them in their own words. They know how to respond to women's "shit tests". Some guys are just naturals, some other imitate the naturals, hence putting on a show.

When I was 15 year olds I made a conscious effort to change my life. I reinvented myself. I said to myself "No more humiliations". "No more worrying about my appearance". "Experience has told me it isn't going to add up to anything, just humiliations". "I just don't have what it takes to seduce a woman, so be it". And that's how I became who I am today. The ironic part is that I would like to have a girlfriend, a female friend, or just a sex partner. It doesn't matter. I just want a woman but somehow I cannot make them like me.

I can't put up with their shit. I don't understand the way they think. Why do they care if I am a geek or not? Why do they care if I have "social proof"? Why is telling a woman that you have never had a girlfriend considered a red flag? Sure she will think I am weird, but at least I am making an effort to get to KNOW HER, and all they give are these bitch shields, as if they were ****ing royalty.

As a wise man once said: "If not playing these seduction games means not getting laid, it is a bargain". I couldn't agree more, but at the same time I sure wish playing these seduction games were not such a big deal for me. I wish I could also get laid, I wish I could also have a girlfriend, I wish I could also talk about my problems with a woman, but I can't. My problem goes beyond learning seduction techniques, I am almost sure of that.

You do not have a problem nor do you need professional help.
There is so much pressure to conform to stereotypes of what we should be that we fall over backwards to do it.
There is the stereotypical woman who is slim, good looking, beautiful and leads the most exciting live imaginable. Hey who won’t want to get to know her? Who won’t want to become part of this social scene?
It’s bullshit, believe me, the truth is reality as far removed from make believe and the stereotypes are just that…. Figments of our imagination.
The world of the glossy magazines with young beautiful models is make believe.
Please stop believing the hype, relax and try to enjoy yourself.
I know it is clichéd but you will never find satisfaction in the long term with shallow, empty women who cannot see you for the human being you are. Beautiful people are just the same as us, insecure, afraid and desperately trying to be accepted.
The one for you is out there pal; you just haven’t met her yet.

 

[kngHenry]

The one for you is out there pal; you just haven’t met her yet.

Yeah I just hope I don't meet her when I am 55, if you get the drill.

 

[Murray_H]

Yeah I just hope I don't meet her when I am 55, if you get the drill.

Does the drill have hammer action? It may seem like a negligible feature, but believe me, it comes in useful more often than not.

 

[Doppelgofer]

that website is bollocks

i hate it out how they make everything out to have rules and regulations in talking to women

WELL YOU MUST FIRST DO THIS AND DO THAT

**** off

 

[baxter]

that website is bollocks

i hate it out how they make everything out to have rules and regulations in talking to women

WELL YOU MUST FIRST DO THIS AND DO THAT

**** off

Bahahaha .........which way shall I **** off ?

 

[Greatgat]

Oh The Drama

 

[specialmax]

Look heres my tips,

Be humorous, Girls love funny guys.
Be charming, Do go around and say "your sexy...rico...swhaveh". You got to develop character.
Be a character: If you stick out you will be reconized! So you can be a clown,cool-guy, just be somthing besides a average student!
Slick moves: Develop some great stratigys, if you bump here look in her eyes,
then say "Wow nice eyes, I never new how lovley they looked". If you do enough slick moves you can accidently spill milk on her and say "sorry" her responding thats ok.
Grow BaLLs: No offence but you got to stop the shy thing. Really, I was shy to!
But in order. HAVE A ACCIDENT! Bump her! Accidently trip her! Do somthing in the movies! This grows balls! While your at it you should go on a couple of freaky things you never done. Ride a freakishly large rollercoaster! SkateBoard down a hill! Do somthing that scares you!


Thats all I really do. Max OUT!:dozey: