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CptStern said:
ok I see your point ...It's just that I really dont want to step on anyone's toes when I havent a clue as to what's going on ...on the surface all I see is that certain mods are pissed about the member titles ..which is obviously NOT the real issue ...but that's about as much info as likely to be discovered without asking direct questions ...like I said ..I support you guys but I dont want to make the situation worse by giving my opinion when it's probably not even wanted ..if you get my drift
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the staff are pissed because the same old promises have been going around for years now, whenever they do anything they are publicly put down, making them look useless to the community simply for trying to improve things. This is YOUR site.. If you want it to stay as it is and gradually fade away known as the only site with no content or any actual site to it beyond the forum, since the beginning, then don't do anything, let those who do say anything gradually get banned, fired and removed so nobody is around to "complain". (members are leaving to hl2 world and other sites, not just HL sites that offer tutorials and articles and put online things that are submitted) But if you want it to keep going and try to improve it, then act on it.

Newer users might not understand, but anyone who's been around here for over a year will remember the other times things have been promised.
 
lets support these guys but lets not take down the forum in the process
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Stern's right. We didn't say what we said in the site discussion forum to hurt this site, or to bring it down. We said those things because they needed to be said to get things to change, and if they do, then they won't have been said in vain.
 
I've been around a fair while, I just think the site is in a natural decline since its subject matter has been and gone.

If you want the spark back, move over to halflife3.net or something.

Getting caught up in childish arguments just because your hill is shrinking doesn't help anyone, or other peoples opinions of you...
 
Ok...starmonkey is still admin even tho he asked to be fired.So something must still be going on between him and munro.

Also TDE is right...I don't even go to the front page/homepage ever.I always go straight to the forums.Why?The front page is boring and lame.

There's no good content or anything useful...it's just plain.
 
Zerimski said:
Stern's right. We didn't say what we said in the site discussion forum to hurt this site, or to bring it down. We said those things because they needed to be said to get things to change, and if they do, then they won't have been said in vain.
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Things wont change if by next week all this is forgotton and swept under the carpet. :\
 
Tr0n said:
Ok...starmonkey is still admin even tho he asked to be fires.So something must still be going on between him and munro.
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I think you need to post again to change the title to member, or something.
 
I'm incredibly worried to see what's happening..

What'll be of the site now? And the staff? Will everyone just split up and leave, never to be heard of again? ;(
 
The Dark Elf said:
Things wont change if by next week all this is forgotton and swept under the carpet. :\
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I want what was said to stay out there. I don't want it swept under the carpet. I want things to change, and that's always been the motivation behind the things I've said.
 
What the heck is going on? Seems to me there's more than enough people here that actually want to put the time and effort into making these changes so why is it such a problem?
 
StarMonkey said:
hi .
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You still have your title and everything.
ACLeroK212 said:
What the heck is going on? Seems to me there's more than enough people here that actually want to put the time and effort into making these changes so why is it such a problem?
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Because the same shit will happen and munro will keep doing what he does best.
 
Seems I'm still an admin, although if Zerim remains fired then i'll demote myself if no one else will.
 
Tr0n said:
You still have your title and everything.Because the same shit will happen and munro will keep doing what he does best.
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I smell a conspiracy! :p
 
The Dark Elf said:
the staff are pissed because the same old promises have been going around for years now, whenever they do anything they are publicly put down, making them look useless to the community simply for trying to improve things. This is YOUR site.. If you want it to stay as it is and gradually fade away known as the only site with no content or any actual site to it beyond the forum, since the beginning, then don't do anything, let those who do say anything gradually get banned, fired and removed so nobody is around to "complain". (members are leaving to hl2 world and other sites, not just HL sites that offer tutorials and articles and put online things that are submitted) But if you want it to keep going and try to improve it, then act on it.

Newer users might not understand, but anyone who's been around here for over a year will remember the other times things have been promised.
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maybe it's because I dont involve myself in the running of this site, maybe it's because Munro was the only person who would listen to me when I was seconds away from being banned, maybe it's because for the most part I like all the mods and I dont want to choose sides ....that said ..I do like this community, I do care what happens to it, I have noticed the decline ..but even though I have one of the highest post counts, even though I've been here for awhile ..I still dont know the full story ..you just filled in some of the blanks but as an outsider I cant possiblely have the same perspective as the mods do. I cant possibly have the same level of frustration the mods must feel. I for one believe that this site cant be run efficiently by only one person ..it's must be a colaborative effort ...which is why I understand why so many of you are pissed. but that's about 5% of the reasons ...I dont enter a battle with only 5% of the information ;)
 
StarMonkey said:
Seems I'm still an admin, although if Zerim remains fired then i'll demote myself if no one else will.
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So you're blackmailing Munro with yourself... ?

Anyone else here think this is seriously immature behaviour?
 
Thanks for all the comments guys.

I'm no longer a moderator, but I'll still hang around (unless I get banned :) )

I'll still be in #halflife2 (heck, I'm co-owner of the channel - we wouldn't even have it if I hadn't engineered a takeover way back)

I'm not going to say who I work for, because I like to keep my comments as my own, not as a representative of my employer.

I'll still give out the occasional NDA-bending bit of info about our game.

Yay!
 
lePobz said:
So you're blackmailing Munro with yourself... ?

Anyone else here think this is seriously immature behaviour?
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SM isn't blackmailing anyone, he quit, I think people still have the right to quit being a moderator don't you?
 
Oh dear, what a kerfuffle. For the sakes of this awesome community i hope this gets sorted out one way or another, but im going to continue sitting on the fence, till i can work out exactly why this is so hectic.
Star you staying on then?
 
lePobz said:
So you're blackmailing Munro with yourself... ?

Anyone else here think this is seriously immature behaviour?
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Well lepobz...thats life.People black-mail each other all the time...sometimes you have to do it to get shit done.
 
I will sit semi-on-the-fence-and-readying-to-sprint-if-necessary. Sorry for the idiocy of my usage of connecting words.
 
Oh yeah, and FAO Munro (if he reads this) - you can keep the bouncer. I'm not that petty.
 
Not blackmail, I'm trying one last attempt to do something productive with the site, and keep staff members who are actually useful. I don't want to see the site fail.

I'm under no illusion that i'm important enough to blackmail using my position. Zerim is a friend and if he's not around then I seriously can't see the site going anywhere so I will leave.

Call it immature, but I (and others) are at the end of our tether because Munro promises everything will be done 'tomorrow', then does nothing for weeks. If this public kick up the arse doesn't work then I don't see any point in me staying.
 
The Dark Elf said:
SM isn't blackmailing anyone, he quit, I think people still have the right to quit being a moderator don't you?
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Oh, OK... The way I read it was 'If Zerimski is still fired, then I quit'.

Ah well, the community will remain. It is us, the fans, that make the community... not a handful of moderators.
 
CptStern said:
probably why you always come back so bruised and bloody ;)
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Yea..well the southern in me tells me to keep on. :D
Pi Mu Rho said:
Oh yeah, and FAO Munro (if he reads this) - you can keep the bouncer. I'm not that petty.
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Wait explain?Bouncer?Like...those big guys that throw you out of bars for starting shit?
 
The sad thing is, is that the community will remain, and there's nothing we can do to help the site because of that.
 
lePobz said:
Oh, OK... The way I read it was 'If Zerimski is still fired, then I quit'.

Ah well, the community will remain. It is us, the fans, that make the community... not a handful of moderators.
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ahh, see this is sitting on the fence again, it's a stagnant community right now. What good is that. This is the problem and has been the problem for a long time now, nothing is changing. The way things are going, if nothing changes, this community will just fade away eventually anyway. This handful of moderators were the ones who were vocal enough to try improve the situation. Lose them and what do you have...
 
The Dark Elf said:
ahh, see this is sitting on the fence again, it's a stagnant community right now. What good is that. This is the problem and has been the problem for a long time now, nothing is changing. The way things are going, if nothing changes, this community will just fade away eventually anyway. This handful of moderators were the ones who were vocal enough to try improve the situation. Lose them and what do you have...
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Me, you, and a few others? :D
 
The Dark Elf said:
ahh, see this is sitting on the fence again, it's a stagnant community right now. What good is that. This is the problem and has been the problem for a long time now, nothing is changing. The way things are going, if nothing changes, this community will just fade away eventually anyway. This handful of moderators were the ones who were vocal enough to try improve the situation. Lose them and what do you have...
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The site can fall, but we'll always have other half-life 2 sites, and soon enough some brand-spankin' new half-life 3 sites ...
 
Is this the same sort of thing that happened over at hlsource?

If I'm wrong though please bitch slap me for even thinking it.

/me knocks on wood
 
Tr0n said:
Me, you, and a few others? :D
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meh i've been spending less time here lately anyway, I guess im just staying to watch it implode now, which if things don't change, thats what will have happened before the years out.

You know, like driving past a car wreak on the motorway, you can't help but look :p
 
Steve_O said:
I'm so scared....

...hold me, Tr0n.
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ACLeroK212 said:
Is this the same sort of thing that happened over at hlsource?

If I'm wrong though please bitch slap me for even thinking it.
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/me bitch slaps both steve and ACL
 
The Dark Elf said:
You know, like driving past a car wreak on the motorway, you can't help but look :p
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****ing rubbernecker. I hate you all. I don't want this place to end, but it will free up a lot of spare time for me...
 
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