Im gonna stop using tobacco!

[h00dlum]

Tonight i decided to try to stop using tobacco, i dont smoke but i use a swedish thing called snus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus). Its the same kind of adiction but its less dangerous to your body. I have to quit cuz this is getting really expencive and i have no job so my mom have to pay all my snus and she dont like that!(duh). I been using it for about 4 years and i dont think this will be an easy task! (I never tried to quit before).

Well wish me luck! And please post with your own tobacco adiction experiences...

 

[Letters]

Cooooool!


No tobacco addiction experience for me, though... in fact, no tobacco experience at all!

 

[DoctorGordon]

Congradulations, no drug is healthy.

 

[gh0st]

snus.. what a crazy word. good luck, ive never smoked cig's or any other nicotine substance.

 

[DarkStar]

Is that anything like snuff? We have that here in the U.S.

 

[Ikerous]

Congradulations, no drug is healthy.

Marijuana has no adverse health effects (Assuming you use a vaporizor instead of smoking it) and it can be used to treat all sorts of diseases and disorders.

Oh yea, good luck with that, Tobacco can be rather addictive. I've only smoked a few times so i wouldnt personally know though.

 

[Hazar]

Good luck!

Never had any tobacco experience either.

 

[oldagerocker]

remember, it takes will power, allot of it.

 

[Vegeta897]

No use quitting now, you are already going to Hell!

I dislike anyone who uses any drug of any kind. (Besides ofcourse for medical use)

ESPECIALLY people who do it and are underage.

I wish they would all learn!

 

[Dedalus]

y'see, reading that stuff about 'snus' and the subsequent link about 'tabacco' (link on the same page), it becomes increasingly difficult (or increasingly obvious) to understand people's motives not to decriminalise certain drugs.

i mean, i don't want to start a drug debate, but read the links for yourselves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco

just amazes me how a drug like tabacco can be allowed to get so integrated into our society, yet other less harmful ones are labelled with the big *illegal* stick.



anyway, good luck trying to give up h00dlum :thumbs:




EDIT:

No use quitting now, you are already going to Hell!

I dislike anyone who uses any drug of any kind. (Besides ofcourse for medical use)

ESPECIALLY people who do it and are underage.

I wish they would all learn!

well put me on your hated list then mate! and a few others too!

do you take alcohol? headache tablets? smoke tabacco? drink caffeinated drinks? those are all drugs too you know that right?

:hmph:

 

[Ikerous]

No use quitting now, you are already going to Hell!

I dislike anyone who uses any drug of any kind. (Besides ofcourse for medical use)

ESPECIALLY people who do it and are underage.

I wish they would all learn!

::stares blankly:: You.. are a complete.. moron...
I cant even think of the right words for this.
Idiot.

 

[OrrA]

I've personally tried quitting cigarettes twice since i started (2 years ago) and I've never succeeded.. there was always a drag to take here, or a free some there, or I'd just break in to an urge and go buy some, or I'd have some on me for *ahem* mixing and rolling purposes.

I wish you good luck, tobacco addiction is not easy to get out of, but with enough determination you should be able to.. I've never been able to because I always have the money and I don't care THAT much about health issues.. then again I don't smoke that often.

 

[Vegeta897]

well put me on your hated list then mate! and a few others too!

do you take alcohol? headache tablets? smoke tabacco? drink caffeinated drinks? those are all drugs too you know that right?

:hmph:

You know what I mean. Ofcourse I don't smoke tobacco! What do you mean by "take alcohol"
Anything you have to be a certain age to use is what I mean... Like smoking, beer, that kinda stuff. Stuff that puts you in a different state, or has unhealthy side effects.

I just don't know why people do it...

EDIT: Did I say something wrong?

 

[OrrA]

No use quitting now, you are already going to Hell!

I dislike anyone who uses any drug of any kind. (Besides ofcourse for medical use)

ESPECIALLY people who do it and are underage.

I wish they would all learn!

And here lies another clown of society who accepts blindly all the propaganda. Good job, add me to your hate list as well :hmph:

 

[OrrA]

You know what I mean. Ofcourse I don't smoke tobacco! What do you mean by "take alcohol"
Anything you have to be a certain age to use is what I mean... Like smoking, beer, that kinda stuff. Stuff that puts you in a different state, or has unhealthy side effects.

I just don't know why people do it...

EDIT: Did I say something wrong?

How old are you? In this day and age, people tend to try all forms of drugs(pot, cigarettes and alcohol) at increasingly earlier ages.

 

[DarkStar]

I dislike anyone who uses any drug of any kind.

You dislike the person just because he/she uses a drug? Or do you dislike the fact that they use drugs? There is a difference.

 

[Dedalus]

You know what I mean. Ofcourse I don't smoke tobacco! What do you mean by "take alcohol"
Anything you have to be a certain age to use is what I mean... Like smoking, beer, that kinda stuff. Stuff that puts you in a different state, or has unhealthy side effects.

I just don't know why people do it...

EDIT: Did I say something wrong?

i only took your words on face value. from what you wrote, it was a massive generalisation (and a false one too), and it did show a degree of ignorance on the subject of drugs (that's not meant to be an offensive remark, sorry if you take it that way).

what i meant by 'taking alcohol'....well...there's really only one way you can consume the old alky....drink it right? i guess i could've worded it differently, all i was asking was "do you drink alcohol?".

it isn't difficult to understand why people take drugs. some do it for pleasure, or for escapism, or just as a leisure activity, or they make a social event of it.

 

[CrazyHarij]

Way to go, h00dlum!

 

[Vegeta897]

How old are you? In this day and age, people tend to try all forms of drugs(pot, cigarettes and alcohol) at increasingly earlier ages.

That's because they are foolish. And have no common sense to realize that it provides nothing except pain.

"Oh, it makes me look cool in front of my friends"

They aren't really friends then are they?
A very good online buddy I have is 14 and he smokes and drinks... I am constantly trying to make him quit. It just angers me.
The thing is, he knows what he is doing, but he thinks it's "okay". His parents know all about it, and they say "okay" as long as he does it "responsibly" I mean WTF!? He has gotten into fights because he was drunk and stuff, and he could really get into trouble. Also, smoking really hurts you aswell.

He has a little brother, and he says he will let him do the same.
WTF talk about ruining your brothers life, he deserves to have a good life, and he won't know any better if his older brother AND his parents say okay.

God, do you see what I mean?

Btw I am 15.

 

[OrrA]

That's because they are foolish. And have no common sense to realize that it provides nothing except pain.

"Oh, it makes me look cool in front of my friends"

They aren't really friends then are they?
A very good online buddy I have is 14 and he smokes and drinks... I am constantly trying to make him quit. It just angers me.
The thing is, he knows what he is doing, but he thinks it's "okay". His parents know all about it, and they say "okay" as long as he does it "responsibly" I mean WTF!? He has gotten into fights because he was drunk and stuff, and he could really get into trouble. Also, smoking really hurts you aswell.

He has a little brother, and he says he will let him do the same.
WTF talk about ruining your brothers life, he deserves to have a good life, and he won't know any better if his older brother AND his parents say okay.

God, do you see what I mean?

Btw I am 15.

I agree 14 is a bit young.. but thats the age I started myself.. smoking pot. The only trouble I've ever gotten in because of pot is with the law, which is one of the reasons I believe it should be legal. Im currently 17, and my view hasnt changed, I dont believe pot affects you negatively if you don't abuse. I've gotten through times where I've abused and I now realise it was wrong, but occasional use does no particular harm, and it has it's good qualities. For one, it increased my taste in music, and in being open-minded about other kinds of music as well as other things.

Don't label a drug as bad just because the big and powerful government says it's evil. Always question powerful people/institutions, for they get away with alot of things because alot of people don't question them.


Now lets not get too off topic

 

[Ikerous]

::hugs orra:: i lub you man. I completely agrea. There are no adverse health effects of marijuana (Assuming you use a vaporizor instead of smoking it) Smoking it really isnt all that bad if you dont do it often and use a bong. Its a whole lot safer than driving to go see a movie (I drive a motorcycle, if i get into an accident ill prolly lose a limb or die). Plus a lot better than a movie. Norml.org is a really awesome site about reforming marijuana laws.

 

[Letters]

It's a sad state of affairs when Vegeta's view is the one being attacked. ;(


DarkStar's was only reasonable comment.

 

[h00dlum]

::hugs orra:: i lub you man. I completely agrea.

have you been smoking right now?

 

[Ikerous]

have you been smoking right now?

Lol, nah Thatd be nice though. I'm going to a bible study in less than an hour to watch passion of the christ, that might be a lil scarey stoned. Hm... Maybe not though... ::goes to um, do something::

 

[OrrA]

It's a sad state of affairs when Vegeta's view is the one being attacked. ;(


DarkStar's was only reasonable comment.

? Maybe you have to be a long-term forum member to understand your post, but I don't see how DarkStar's comment was the only reasonable one and why it's sad when Vegeta's view is the one being attacked :|

 

[Letters]

? Maybe you have to be a long-term forum member to understand your post, but I don't see how DarkStar's comment was the only reasonable one and why it's sad when Vegeta's view is the one being attacked :|

Maybe it's the pot?

DarkStar's post was reasonable because there is no reason to pass judgements on people and hate them just because they do drugs... but jumping in to defend the substances that people take to escape reality and cause problems for others cannot be considered 'reasonable'. Quite the opposite...

 

[Vegeta897]

It's a sad state of affairs when Vegeta's view is the one being attacked. ;(

Do you mean my view of drugs? Like, the fact that people think drugs are good? Or the fact that it is my view?

I agree with both.

I could care less about the law, drugs lead to bad things no matter what.

 

[RMachucaA]

Bunch of potheads..... I used to smoke a LOT, and do worse things.... until i saw first hand where it can lead you, and where it lead a lot of my friends to... not only did they (and I) look like morons when stoned but some of them ended up dead.....

So i learnt my lesson, and dropped weed.

Unfortunately, i still smoke cigs.... although trying to quit, its funny how quitting is more expensive then smoking... kinda sucks.

 

[OrrA]

Maybe it's the pot?

DarkStar's post was reasonable because there is no reason to pass judgements on people and hate them just because they do drugs...

I hadn't noticed DarkStar's post on this page when i quickly looked to see what you were talking about, I'm currently doing about 3 things at the same time so I didn't take the time to properly look, my bad.

And yes I agree, no one should judge someone because of what they consume, what they do or what they like.

but jumping in to defend the substances that people take to escape reality and cause problems for others cannot be considered 'reasonable'. Quite the opposite...

You're generalising. Many people don't use it to "escape reality". That is the common misconception the general public who doesn't smoke has of people who use pot. Yes, some do it for that reason, just as drunks get wasted everyday to forget about their pathetic failure of a life. Some also drink on friday nights to have some fun with their friends, as do potsmokers. Media and government just concentrate on telling you the worst side of pot so you believe it's bad. Caffeine can be as bad as pot if you use it alot.

 

[Letters]

That's what the drugs do... it doesn't matter the reason your taking them... why do people take them to 'have fun'? The effect... it alters their state of minds, and it often leads to problems.

 

[OrrA]

Bunch of potheads..... I used to smoke a LOT, and do worse things.... until i saw first hand where it can lead you, and where it lead a lot of my friends to... not only did they (and I) look like morons when stoned but some of them ended up dead.....

So i learnt my lesson, and dropped weed.

Refer to my previous post. If you learn to not abuse, and use it for good reasons instead of skipping a class to go get high at the park, it shouldn't ruin your life.

I am however concerned about your friends' deaths.. how did that happen? Car accident? :|

 

[OrrA]

That's what the drugs do... it doesn't matter the reason your taking them... why do people take them to 'have fun'? The effect... it alters their state of minds, and it often leads to problems.

Well in my case, it all started out because I had problems and I was about to kill myself, then I started to smoke pot and it made me think about alot of things, and eventually changed my perspectives, which were mostly quite negative and self-destructive because of many things that have happened to me ever since I've reached the age of 10. I'm pretty sure i wouldnt be here anymore if it wern't for pot. Rare are the ones who can say those exact words, but it rings true for me. Remember, not because the majority believes something that it is immediately true.

Until you've tried it yourself, don't tell me what the effects are, I perfectly know what they are. Most of the people I know do drugs, I see many of them abuse and they fail at school, but I've never failed a single class in my life. I find alcohol to be much, much more destructive then pot.

 

[ThomasToad]

Didn't read all the reply's but just have some sense of will power which barely any tobacco addicts have. Just don't put yourself into situations where the stuff is available, and oh yeah don't buy it. It's pretty simple just don't be weak minded about it. Good Luck.

 

[OrrA]

Didn't read all the reply's but just have some sense of will power which barely any tobacco addicts have. Just don't put yourself into situations where the stuff is available, and oh yeah don't buy it. It's pretty simple just don't be weak minded about it. Good Luck.

Yeah.. that was my mistake both times I tried stopping.. but I don't have much choice, I do live in Quebec
Over here, you go outside any door and there's a smoker. Always. At least you don't have to look far for a lighter when you forget your's :dozey:

 

[Letters]

Okay, so you're an exception (did you even try seeking help first?), yet you still believe it's an okay thing for everyone to do even though you see your own friends failing because of it? And don't give me that 'until you've tried yourself' bullshit... it's not relevant.

 

[OrrA]

Okay, so you're an exception (did you even try seeking help first?), yet you still believe it's an okay thing for everyone to do even though you see your own friends failing because of it? And don't give me that 'until you've tried yourself' bullshit... it's not relevant.

Did I say all my friends, or some of my friends? Whatever I said was meant to be some of them, not all. And those friends I don't see anymore because I've grown fed up with them, for many reasons. Most people who use in moderation are as successful as anyone else, it is only the ones who abuse that I see failing miserably.

Yes I did seek help, I've seen countless psychologists and nothing has helped very much other then my own thought-process to figure out what was wrong with me and what I should do to better my life. Some of this thought-process has been undergone while high, and some while sober. Usually the new ideas came during a pot high, and I developped them more rationally when sober.

 

[hasan]

until I try it myself? no thanks
I'm afraid you won't understand the danger of drugs until .... you excperience it firsthand. I hope for you that it'll never happen. but man. uh.

h00dlum, I wish you good luck mate, it takes alot of will power. Be strong. :thumbs:

Don't label a drug as bad just because the big and powerful government says it's evil. Always question powerful people/institutions, for they get away with alot of things because alot of people don't question them.

Don't you think you are just fooling yourself? It has nothing to do with the government, it's your own life, your own future. It's not about breaking the law, it's about hurting yourself.
It actually benefits the government to legalize drugs .. they can get taxes and stuff. Just don't tell yourself that the government is the only problem.
Look buddy, think about it throughly. Don't say it's ok, it's not. Anyone who tells it's ok is fooling you. Even if you tell it to yourself, you are fooling yourself. ;(

Marijuana has no adverse health effects (Assuming you use a vaporizor instead of smoking it) and it can be used to treat all sorts of diseases and disorders.

same to you man .. I'm sorry to say that, but this is nonsense. Doing drugs is one of the worst things you can do to ruin yourlife. Marijuana or whatever anything else, no difference.

 

[ThomasToad]

That's because they are foolish. And have no common sense to realize that it provides nothing except pain.

I partially agree with Vegeta because there are tons of people out there who simply can't control themselves and really shouldn't be able to do any kind of drug, but then there are people that can. Drugs don't always lead to bad things but with careless people they do. Keep in mind i'm purely talking about legal drugs plus maybe pot

The majority of people that get themselves addicted to any kind of drug are weak minded idiots with no will power. Personally I don't drink or smoke tobacco anymore but if I decided to it would be after considering if the effects of using these substances are worth the long term result, and I would be comfortable with my decision. I honestly can't say the same for other people though which is where I agree with Vegeta.

 

[JFry]

Congrats on quitting tobacco h00dlum. I agree it is a waste of money, same reason I quit(tho I was a smoker). Something to remember is that while nicotine is physically addictive, it only remains in your system for 2-3 days. After that it is all about breaking the mental addiction. That is why the patches and gum and such aren't very effective, they only help with the physical addiction and many people buy them thinking they will do the work for them. All I can say is if you make it out to be extremely hard to quit, you aren't likely to succeed. However if you can visualize yourself tobacco free, and truly believe you can do it, it is possible. It's all about your mind state.

About the drug debate that sprung up.. Vegeta first you said you were against people who were underage using drugs, then you said you didn't care about the laws, so which is it? And the person who said pot has no negative side effects as long as you are using a vaporizer, you know you can eat it too right? However it isn't true that there are no negative side effects that way, it unbalances brain chemistry, particularly dopamine levels.

Anybody who wishes to educate themselves on drugs can visit:
http://www.erowid.org/
As a person with a rather wide repetoire of drug experience, I can vouche that the information there is fairly accurate.

 

[craig]

Ignore all the negative people in this thread and good luck! If no one's never smoked or taken any kind of drug you'll often notice the 'god syndrome' that's apparent in many of the responses to this thread, but just ignore them, you've decided to do something about your habit and thats all that counts

See my sig to check out my old habit