Immigration (In the US)

[blahblahblah]

Well I would try to make my life better where I live.. I wouldnt sneak into a country illegally. I dont care how hungry I was. Do what you have to do and enter the country legally.


You people also act like ALL immagrants are hard working honest people..not all of them are.

Not all American citizens are worthy of their citizenship either.

 

[Homer]

A lot of people come here for a better life, which they intend to steal from legal citizens. I get so sick of hearing how hard working these illigals are.

If I leave anything of value in my car it will get broken into. And I know damn well who does it.

 

[KidRock]

Not all American citizens are worthy of their citizenship either.

yeah but they got it legally (or there parents got it legally)

 

[sublidieminal]

A lot of people come here for a better life, which they intend to steal from legal citizens. I get so sick of hearing how hard working these illigals are.

If I leave anything of value in my car it will get broken into. And I know damn well who does it.

Your an asshole. How can you generalize us? Asshole.

Look at my sig.

 

[Homer]

I should also point out that the percentage of illegals who come here and commit crime is much lower than the percentage of their kids who commit crime after growing up poor as hell because their parents have no marketable skills. And those kids are legal.

 

[KidRock]

A lot of people come here for a better life, which they intend to steal from legal citizens. I get so sick of hearing how hard working these illigals are.

If I leave anything of value in my car it will get broken into. And I know damn well who does it.

hahaha oh stern and you said I would be the one getting the slap.

 

[Homer]

Your an asshole. How can you generalize us? Asshole.

Look at my sig.

Give me back my sterio and maybe I'll forgive you. asshole.

 

[sublidieminal]

Your still a no good racist.

 

[Foxtrot]

Foxtrot, Not all immigrants just stick to their native languages (The ones that don't speak english). Don't judge them all by the experience your dad had. Hell, my mom learned by watching tv and reading the newspaper, but she lived with people who knew both her native language and english. That's not the the case with all of them.

Did I say all? If I did I did not mean too, I know immigrants who speak English.

 

[P-Lo]

A lot of people come here for a better life, which they intend to steal from legal citizens. I get so sick of hearing how hard working these illigals are.

If I leave anything of value in my car it will get broken into. And I know damn well who does it.

Dont entail that all of them are out to steal your car and shit. I wanna know, do you like mexcians or not?

 

[blahblahblah]

If I leave anything of value in my car it will get broken into. And I know damn well who does it.

Yeah, a randomized mix of white and mexican people.

 

[KidRock]

Give me back my sterio and maybe I'll forgive you. asshole.

hahahaha its funny..racist..but still funny none the less.

Yeah, a randomized mix of white and mexican people.

Come now blah blah.. asians and Africans steal radios to. :rolling:

Also dumb irish micks like myself do as well.

 

[Homer]

Gimme back my sterio and maybe I'll lighten up.

Seriously though, its not about race. Its about having no regard for the law or public order. The one thing you know about every single illigal is that they have violated the law by coming here.

 

[P-Lo]

Did I say all? If I did I did not mean too, I know immigrants who speak English.

Heh, it did. Just wanted to make sure.

 

[Foxtrot]

I should also point out that the percentage of illegals who come here and commit crime is much lower than the percentage of their kids who commit crime after growing up poor as hell because their parents have no marketable skills. And those kids are legal.

That is so true, all the immigrant Mexicans(ones from school) I know are gangsta'(yes, every single one). And then rap makes glorifies criminal activity and that is what they grow up on.

 

[sublidieminal]

I don't know what your arguments are here, but this country is a melting pot of immigrants. It's the history america. How else would this country come to be.

 

[blahblahblah]

Gimme back my sterio and maybe I'll lighten up.

Seriously though, its not about race. Its about having no regard for the law or public order. The one thing you know about every single illigal is that they have violated the law by coming here.

Like you have never broken a law before. :| Maybe you should turn yourself into the police.

 

[Homer]

Yeah, a randomized mix of white and mexican people.

No, its not. I know because I watch the people prowling around parking lots, and I read the paper and see the names of the people who got caught stealing cars. There are devil-dogs and moronic upper middle class white kid gangs around, but not so much down here.

I would like to point out that this is not true in most of the country, but cities close to the border have a higher crime rate for a reason. Because its easy to take stolen shit back to mexico.

 

[KidRock]

Well everoyone.. Home DOES live in arizona.. he must have TONS of illegals down there. So you never know.. I know up where I live whenever there is a crime it seems to be the minority. So either ALL news stations hate putting bad white people on TV or white people can just run faster.

 

[Foxtrot]

I don't know what your arguments are here, but this country is a melting pot of immigrants. It's the history america. How else would this country come to be.

A country has to stop being a metling pot at one point and gain an identity.

 

[Homer]

Well everoyone.. Home DOES live in arizona.. he must have TONS of illegals down there. So you never know.. I know up where I live whenever there is a crime it seems to be the minority. So either ALL news stations hate putting bad white people on TV or white people can just run faster.

I was born in montana, and every time theres a crime up there its some drugged up piece of white trash.

 

[blahblahblah]

Well everoyone.. Home DOES live in arizona.. he must have TONS of illegals down there. So you never know.. I know up where I live whenever there is a crime it seems to be the minority. So either ALL news stations hate putting bad white people on TV or white people can just run faster.

Can you say "socio-economic differences?"

 

[KidRock]

A country has to stop being a metling pot at one point and gain an identity.

I think that has already happened.. people just like to use the ol "this country is made up of immigrants" agruement againts people who say "all immigrants are bad" to me its getting pretty old.. this country WAS made of immigrants but now most people are born native here.

Can you say "socio-economic differences?"

I sure can.

 

[Homer]

Well everoyone.. Home DOES live in arizona.. he must have TONS of illegals down there. So you never know.. I know up where I live whenever there is a crime it seems to be the minority. So either ALL news stations hate putting bad white people on TV or white people can just run faster.

Or maybe being brought up in destitute poverty leads a lot of people to crime. Or maybe being a loser leads you to destitute poverty and not paying attention to your kids, so they tend to wind up losers to.

 

[P-Lo]

Maybe we should give that identity to the Native americans?

 

[Foxtrot]

Maybe we should give that identity to the Native americans?

Nah, we kicked their asses and were kind enough to let them stay.

 

[Homer]

Our treatment of the native americans was horrible, and they deserved better. But that ugly chapter in american history has passed, and all it can or should be now is a unpleasant lession in a highschool history class.

And also fry bread is ****ing great.

 

[Foxtrot]

Our treatment of the native americans was horrible, and they deserved better. But that ugly chapter in american history has passed, and all it can or should be now is a unpleasant lession in a highschool history class.

And also fry bread is ****ing great.

We learn about how America raped the native americans all through school, from grade school to high school. I use to think we were so evil, like we just bent the indians over a table and jamed it in. But that isn't quite what happened, we learn everything so one sided in the public school system it is radiculous.

 

[P-Lo]

Thanks for your insight everyone.

 

[P-Lo]

What did the "other side" say, Foxtrot?

 

[Homer]

We learn about how America raped the native americans all through school, from grade school to high school. I use to think we were so evil, like we just bent the indians over a table and jamed it in. But that isn't quite what happened, we learn everything so one sided in the public school system it is radiculous.

Oh, they dont teach it well. They over emphasize what we did and hide what some of the native americas did to eachother. They pretend there had never been a war on american soil before we came here. And all that lying to make us seem worse does is make people doubt the true stuff. That said, we did do some horrible things.

 

[Foxtrot]

Oh, they dont teach it well. They over emphasize what we did and hide what some of the native americas did to eachother. They pretend there had never been a war on american soil before we came here. And all that lying to make us seem worse does is make people doubt the true stuff. That said, we did do some horrible things.

I agree, we bent them over the table, but they got a few hits in before we got the pants off.

 

[P-Lo]

Both the pilgrims and the 'indians' fought each other, but how was it all started? I think thats the most important thing.

btw, I did know there was fighting and wars between the pilgrims and the indians for the development of america, basing off education. I don't think it was rape at all. I'm not the only one who thinks that either. I dunno, maybe education is a little different here, in Arizona?

 

[Homer]

Hey guys, I'm curious as to what all of you think of the whole immigration (well in the south border) issue. Do you think they're really stealing jobs? Legal immigrants and illegal immigrants.

On the topic of stealing jobs and their effect on the economy:

They are very very bad for the economy, there is a boost to be gained from all the cheap labor, but they also cause a lot of money to leave the US. People try to tell you that a hamburger would cost 20 bucks if they had to hire only legals, well thats just bullshit. Ask anyone in the food service industry what percent of the costs of running that business is salary.

What really happens is they make Americans who should be able to make some kind of living as high school dropouts completely unable to support themselves, because theres this cheap labor force here to do the jobs for 1/5th a livable wage. Without all the immigration you could support a family with a crap job.

And the upcoming event nobody is prepaired for is when these people get together and unionize. Once they start demanding livable wages(and it will happen eventually) then the economy will be in the toilet. Employers wont be able to hire as many people, and unemployment will go through the roof, then the crime rate will go up even more, and were ****ed.

 

[Homer]

I agree, we bent them over the table, but they got a few hits in before we got the pants off.

Actaully, we bent one group over the table, so they went off and bent a second group over the table, and we went and bent the first group over a whole new table.

 

[P-Lo]

And the upcoming event nobody is prepaired for is when these people get together and unionize. Once they start demanding livable wages(and it will happen eventually) then the economy will be in the toilet. Employers wont be able to hire as many people, and unemployment will go through the roof, then the crime rate will go up even more, and were ****ed.

Talk about paranoia. I couldn't help but simply chuckle. You act as like the mexicans are one big gang. Do you think law enforcement or any other employment organization will raise their wages because the ILLEGAL immigrants will unionize and demand it? Oh man. Hilarious. Seriously, you're comming off as racist with that.

 

[blahblahblah]

On the topic of stealing jobs and their effect on the economy:

They are very very bad for the economy, there is a boost to be gained from all the cheap labor, but they also cause a lot of money to leave the US. People try to tell you that a hamburger would cost 20 bucks if they had to hire only legals, well thats just bullshit. Ask anyone in the food service industry what percent of the costs of running that business is salary.

What really happens is they make Americans who should be able to make some kind of living as high school dropouts completely unable to support themselves, because theres this cheap labor force here to do the jobs for 1/5th a livable wage. Without all the immigration you could support a family with a crap job.

And the upcoming event nobody is prepaired for is when these people get together and unionize. Once they start demanding livable wages(and it will happen eventually) then the economy will be in the toilet. Employers wont be able to hire as many people, and unemployment will go through the roof, then the crime rate will go up even more, and were ****ed.

You just contradicted yourself in mid-post.

People try to tell you that a hamburger would cost 20 bucks if they had to hire only legals, well thats just bullshit.

Once they start demanding livable wages(and it will happen eventually) then the economy will be in the toilet. Employers wont be able to hire as many people, and unemployment will go through the roof, then the crime rate will go up even more, and were ****ed.

You are completely wrong on the economics part of immigration.

 

[Homer]

Talk about paranoia. I couldn't help but simply chuckle. You act as like the mexicans are one big gang. Do you think law enforcement or any other employment organization will raise their wages because the ILLEGAL immigrants will unionize and demand it? Oh man. Hilarious. Seriously, you're comming off as racist with that.

You dont think that these people are eventually going to stand up and demand to stop being exploited? Thats what it is when you pay a person 1/5 a livable wage, pure and simple exploitation. Whats going to happen eventually is their kids who are legal will get together and unionise.

 

[Homer]

You just contradicted yourself in mid-post.

No I didn't. Salary is a fairly small part of those buisneses, but they arent going to just start paying more and keep the same people on. They will cut people to keep the profit margin the same. This will lead to unemployment(unless they form a very good union, which I dont think is very likely).

 

[BRODIEMAN2k4]

Well Homer does have a point