In Depth: Xen Fauna

The Gargantua theory does not work, because once again:
The.
Combine.
Have.
Never.
Yet.
Entered.
Xen.
K? :E

The different Headcrabs are just differnet sub-species, god knows how they churn out so many. Probably farm them and then deilver to the Citadels in massive numbers
 
As for headcrabs, there are contradicting theories: The former theory suggests that headcrabs are genetically engineered or modified organisms, produced by the Combine
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If they were made by the Combine then why are there wild gonarches on Xen? Infact why are there gonarches?

The latter theory is that Combine use (or use part of) a creature like Gonarch to breed headcrabs. This is supported by this image.
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Haha. It's highly contradicted by that image. If they could have breeding sacks then why would they have live gonarches when they could make breeding sacks?

the fact that headcrabs are only seen to use humans as hosts
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Again, evedence against your theory. Why were they on Xen if they prey on humans only?
 
IAmAI said:
The latter theory is that Combine use (or use part of) a creature like Gonarch to breed headcrabs. This is supported by this image.
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That's what clinched the "No Combine on Xen" theory for me. Look at it. Its a Gonarch egg sack - away from its body - SUPPORTED BY COMBINE MACHINERY. Notice the extreme juxtaposition of something natively Xenian with something so Combine. Its efficiency over nature - the Combine just chop off all of the useless parts and keep the important bit alive with life support. As opposed to the free-range Gonarch(es) on Xen, which spawned hundreds of baby headcrabs all over the place, which inadvertently became the first wave for Xenian retribution attacks on Black Mesa.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
That's what clinched the "No Combine on Xen" theory for me. Look at it. Its a Gonarch egg sack - away from its body - SUPPORTED BY COMBINE MACHINERY. Notice the extreme juxtaposition of something natively Xenian with something so Combine. Its efficiency over nature - the Combine just chop off all of the useless parts and keep the important bit alive with life support. As opposed to the free-range Gonarch(es) on Xen, which spawned hundreds of baby headcrabs all over the place, which inadvertently became the first wave for Xenian retribution attacks on Black Mesa.

-Angry Lawyer
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Whcih even if the CoX was debateable anymore that is circumstantial as to your view on the RC and headcrabs. Sorry, old habits and that.
 
IAmAI said:
These my theories about Xen and some of the aliens of Half-Life. They may not be right, and from the start I contradict other's opinions/theories, but what the hey - they're just theories. In addition, although I speak as though this is fact, this is only written under the assumption that it is fact, when in fact (pun not intended) it is/may not.

The Combine control Xen. Xen is a useful strategic position for the distribution of their forces, by teleportation. The inhabitants are either native or brought over by the Combine for distributing (the Vortigants being likely). The Combine, through the utilisation of other species, use Xen as a 'barracks' for creating and distributing their forces – which mostly consist of enslaved Vortigants. Alien Grunts, like Overwatch soldiers are modified Vortigants, which are produced on Xen in factories (source). Alien Grunts, in comparison to Overwatch soldiers are significantly more modified, perhaps enabled by their biology.

It is likely that Gargantua is not a natural organism but a cyborg or robot produced by the Combine (source). This would explain its ability to fire flames, balls of plasma and exploding when significantly damaged. The Gargantua may be produced on Xen (although there is no evidence for this in Half-Life), or more likely, transported/teleported to Xen for further distribution elsewhere.

The Combine also utilise lesser-intelligent or wild creatures, which may or may not be native to Xen. The Combine's control of Xen is brought about through Nihilanth. Nihilanth was enslaved by the Combine and controls Xen and the Vortigants force on the behalf of the Combine. Nihilanth had the ability to manipulate beings on Xen (this was probably limited to the Vortigants) and teleport Vortigants, Alien Slaves and other creatures to places in range of Xen. It is unknown whether Xen was planning on invading Earth or whether it was in response to the resonance cascade.

The destruction of Nihilanth had a number of implications. Firstly, the destruction alerted the Combine, who attacked Earth again, either out of fear or threat, or just as a second attempt to conquer Earth, using their own forces or at least a significantly more powerful and larger force. Secondly, it freed the Vortigants who were able to join the human rebellion against the Combine.

As for headcrabs, there are contradicting theories: The former theory suggests that headcrabs are genetically engineered or modified organisms, produced by the Combine. They may be either based on an existing specie or designed and engineered from scratch, for the purpose of attacking the human race. This is supported by the fact the Combine utilise them quite extensively, the fact that headcrabs are only seen to use humans as hosts, and also that they differ significantly from the other alien species encountered: Most aliens have dark, highly pigmented skin, usually a green-brown colour, while headcrabs have pale skin. Perhaps a pigmented skin wasn't important for the Combine's purposes.

The latter theory is that Combine use (or use part of) a creature like Gonarch to breed headcrabs. This is supported by this image. Some suggest that Gonarch was a lone creature. Either it wasn't or the Combine was able to support its egg sac after Gonarch was destroyed by Gordon Freeman. However, it does seem unlikely that Gonarch grew from a headcrab, or at least the headcrabs utilised by the Combine, as the headcrab's apparent purpose is to form a parasitic relationship with a human host, rather than to remain separate, which supports the former theory. Perhaps the Combine use modified 'Gonarch' DNA to produce headcrabs, or the egg sacs (which in turn produce headcrabs).
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Sorry pal, but I'll have to go against that part of the theory. The flames/ plasma ejecting from hands? It possibly mixes natural chemical developed in it's body, and the explosions when it dies? Well there is a species of ant that, when severely injured, literally becomes a living kamikazie.:farmer:
 
And the fact, that, IT is not produced by the Combine?
Can someon please sticky a "THE COMBINE WERE NOT ON XEN" post onto this section? Itd save me a lot of moaning
 
Llama said:
The Combine do not control Xen. Sorry about that
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I'm sorry, but I'm not convinced. Everything I've read suggests that Nihilanth was enslaved by the combine and forced to do their bidding (a source). Perhaps the Combine have never set foot on Xen and, of course, they don't control Xen directly if it is being controlled via Nihilanth.

However, I will admit I have not yet thoroughly read evidence that argues that the Combine does not control Xen. If you can give me some links to arguments, I would very grateful and I will then make an informed opinion.
 
Llama said:
And the fact, that, IT is not produced by the Combine?
Can someon please sticky a "THE COMBINE WERE NOT ON XEN" post onto this section? Itd save me a lot of moaning
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Well this is just for you: "The Combine were not on Xen!".
 
IAmAI said:
I'm sorry, but I'm not convinced. Everything I've read suggests that Nihilanth was enslaved by the combine and forced to do their bidding (a source). Perhaps the Combine have never set foot on Xen and, of course, they don't control Xen directly if it is being controlled via Nihilanth.

However, I will admit I have not yet thoroughly read evidence that argues that the Combine does not control Xen. If you can give me some links to arguments, I would very grateful and I will then make an informed opinion.
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You could always try the sticky on the first page of the forums :bonce:
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=91660
 
Don't let them bully you into changing your opinion. I like to think that the Combine did control Xen. I haven't seen any conclusive evidence one way or the other in any of the games, so I guess it's all theoretical anyway until HL3 comes out (or at least Aftermath).
 
safetyswami said:
Don't let them bully you into changing your opinion.
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Yeah, don't steal my dinner money. Theres next to no way nobody can bully anyone into changing anyones opinion on this forum, or in any forum.
 
Yeah, but thats because you're a fortress of Awshemness.
I am nawt :p
 
Mechagodzilla said:
That Wiki was chock full of inaccuracy.
So I fixed it.
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Good. I changed it once and some asswipe changed it back.
 
If you're going to change the Wiki, you've got to keep a NPOV. So, represent both sides of the argument.

-Angry Lawyer
 
I agree. Do as I did with headcrabs - state their are a number of (contradictory) theories. And certainly do not express any form of opinion or bias towards anything that is only a theory.
 
Exactly. Which is why any changes made in my favour were reverted.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
Exactly. Which is why any changes made in my favour were reverted.

-Angry Lawyer
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I changed the headcrab section to include multiple theories and it was completely non-biased. But it was changed back anyway.
 
I don't know if it's you Mech but there is a bit of theory being passed as fact in that wiki.
I'll make some slight alterations latter. Right now I'm getting a headache:bonce:
 
ríomhaire said:
I don't know if it's you Mech but there is a bit of theory being passed as fact in that wiki.
I'll make some slight alterations latter. Right now I'm getting a headache:bonce:
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Which is it?
 
The garg Wiki doesn't contain any theorizing that isn't expressly stated as an unknown, unless it's been modified recently.

It presents the most likely theory (that the garg is related to and/or manufactured by the vortigaunts) and then lists the less likely theories (that the garg is a random creature that just happens to be extremely similar to the vortigaunts or that the garg is a gigantic mutant snark).

None of those things is being passed off as fact.
 
Mechagodzilla said:
The garg Wiki doesn't contain any theorizing that isn't expressly stated as an unknown, unless it's been modified recently.

It presents the most likely theory (that the garg is related to and/or manufactured by the vortigaunts) and then lists the less likely theories (that the garg is a random creature that just happens to be extremely similar to the vortigaunts or that the garg is a gigantic mutant snark).

None of those things is being passed off as fact.
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Well, I'm just nit-picking but things like Myriadont(or whatever it is) defanatly being an antlion-guard when it could just mean antlions in general.
 
ríomhaire said:
Well, I'm just nit-picking but things like Myriadont(or whatever it is) defanatly being an antlion-guard when it could just mean antlions in general.
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Vort Quote:
The Myrmidont's aromatic pheropods

Myrmidont's is used in the context: The pheropods of the Myrmidont. Since the Ant Lion are not known to carry these Pherepods, we can assume the Myrmidont is the name given to the Guards only
 
Llama said:
Vort Quote:
The Myrmidont's aromatic pheropods

Myrmidont's is used in the context: The pheropods of the Myrmidont. Since the Ant Lion are not known to carry these Pherepods, we can assume the Myrmidont is the name given to the Guards only
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In the same way that if I shot down a helicopter and someone said to take the machine gun off the helicopter then I know that only flying things with machine guns are helicopters?
I'll try to come up with a better analagy.
 
Lol.
No, becasue there is MORE than one type of flying aircraft with Machine Guns. However, the only Xen creatues (This is my assumption tho, open to bedate) with the Pherepods are the Ant Lion Guards

Edit: Spelling sucks, but i cant be bothered to change it all
 
Better analagy found!
Lets say that you've never heard of or seen plants. If someone showed you an orange and said this is a fruit. You assuming that Myrimia-somethingorother means only antlion guard is the same as assuming that fruit only means small, round, orange things.
 
No, not really... because to our knowledge, only the Antlion Guard has pheropods, and the term "Myrmidont" was used in conjunction with the aforementioned pods :O

Myrmidont (derivative of myrmidon that could be used to refer to most natural ant species) has military connotations of fearless/mindless combat (hence why the use of "myrm" in insectology arose in the first place) so while I assume it's only used in reference to the Guards, it could quite easily be used for every Antlion type.
 
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