Incoming Source Media Update

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Well, the team working on Incoming Source have outdone their selves again by releasing another hefty update. In this update are some screenshots of a new map based on Earth, an industrial area. Also, they have released a DVD box cover for the game and a sneak peak of what‘s to come:[br]

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[br]There’s plenty more where that came from. A wallpaper and concept art have also been put up on e-display.[br]For a more in-depth status report on this Half-Life 2 modification, head on over to this post in the Incoming Source forums.

 

[Zeus]

Nice I like that last one.

 

[lister]

yeh the last one looks really smart, i like the jungle pic, looks awsome.

 

[Gusdor]

wow, 1st 2 pics look...like HL2

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

It's Halo.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

It's Halo.

QFT^^^

 

[Crispy]

My only complaint (and that says a lot); "atleast", and technically that typographical error doesn't even affect the game so I'm just gonna let smiley do the talking: :rolling:

 

[CrazyHarij]

The secret of ripping stuff off is not to make it so damn obvious. Go back to formula..

Am I the only one who thinks the helmet design is awful by the way?
The soldiers almost look depressed.. EMO TROOPERS!

 

[Beerdude26]

EX-****ING-TREME​

I'm SO pumped for this mod now ! :O:O:O

 

[Patton]

The secret of ripping stuff off is not to make it so damn obvious. Go back to formula..

Am I the only one who thinks the helmet design is awful by the way?
The soldiers almost look depressed.. EMO TROOPERS!

I'm tired of seeing this. Look. First thing in their FAQ.

Is this Halo for Source?

No I'm afraid this is not a Halo mod. This is a mod that will feature elements from the extremely popular Halo game as a token of appreciation. And what's wrong with a thing that won several awards.
Some of the elements from the Halo Universe can fit in the Incoming Universe. (Two to be exact. Spartan Armor and the Warthog Attack Vehicle)

Basically, they KNOW they are taking elements from Halo. They admit to it. They aren't TRYING to hide it.

This is the most professional-looking amateur mod I've seen so far. They've posted more than just weapon model renders, and STILL they get shit for it. BAH!

 

[JeanPaul]

wow, 1st 2 pics look...like HL2

please indugle me, and show me some work that you have done that is better :|

The secret of ripping stuff off is not to make it so damn obvious. Go back to formula..

Am I the only one who thinks the helmet design is awful by the way?
The soldiers almost look depressed.. EMO TROOPERS!

if you had some patience and would do your research you would know that this mod was originally planned for HL1 WAY before halo was released. now there might be some influence from halo (can you name a mod that didnt use influence from another game?) but we are not directly ripping halo off

 

[CrazyHarij]

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4394/isourceconcept18pf.jpg

Jesus.. I'm not even going to mention the way too obvious halo references, but focus on the fact that they obviously have some really nice concept art.. not.
Maybe they just went "oh screw this, you can't draw shit.. oh yeah, halo was cool, let's just copy that"

edit:

if you had some patience and would do your research you would know that this mod was originally planned for HL1 WAY before halo was released. now there might be some influence from halo (can you name a mod that didnt use influence from another game?) but we are not directly ripping halo off

No, of course not.. Even though the FAQ page is openly admitting to it, like Patton posted?

And just because the mod was planned doesn't mean your designs and overall scenario settings were finished, of which you've obviously borrowed heartily from other games.

Three short sentences: IP laws. Undo, and redo. Be original.

edit2:

(can you name a mod that didnt use influence from another game?)

Believe me, I know well enough about concept design and ideas that are borrowed, just that most people have enough smarts not to make it so damn obvious. It's not a tribute, it's a ripoff.

Like Einstein said, "Creativity is the art of hiding the source".

 

[JeanPaul]

do you have any idea how long and and much work it takes to make a mod? obviously not, you dont just "redo" a mod this far into development. now if you dont like this mod, or dont like our refering to halo, then dont download, or play it :| simple as that

 

[Patton]

I'll agree, their concept art sucks. But read what they're trying to accomplish with the mod, what they HAVE accomplished with the mod, and then come back here. It isn't a Halo copy mod.

Apprently, halflife2.net will hire any retard as a staff member.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

now if you dont like this mod, or dont like our refering to halo, then dont download, or play it :| simple as that

We won't. KTHX.

 

[JeanPaul]

what they HAVE accomplished with the mod, and then come back here. It isn't a Halo copy mod.

Apprently, halflife2.net will hire any retard as a staff member.

thank you :E that is all i was trying to say

(and i agree with what you said about the staff members)

 

[JeanPaul]

We won't. KTHX.

your loss

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

(and i agree with what you said about the staff members)

I'd watch what you say about staff members here, they could stop posting your news here and not allow your threads in Modification forum.

Then you'd cry.

 

[CrazyHarij]

do you have any idea how long and and much work it takes to make a mod? obviously not, you dont just "redo" a mod this far into development. now if you dont like this mod, or dont like our refering to halo, then dont download, or play it :| simple as that

You scrap shit ideas no matter how much work you've done on them, because they're not going to be better regardless if it's you or ID or Valve working on the same idea.

What'll you do when bungie contacts you for IP law infringement? Those warthogs look abit dubious to me..

I'll agree, their concept art sucks. But read what they're trying to accomplish with the mod, what they HAVE accomplished with the mod, and then come back here. It isn't a Halo copy mod.

Apprently, halflife2.net will hire any retard as a staff member.

Fortunately, I'm not one of them. I have a pretty good idea of what they're "trying to accomplish", but I honestly don't see what you're trying to say with that. There's nothing with this mod that makes it preferable over other mods.
If people want to play Halo, they'll play Halo, not a mod that copies Halo.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

thank you :E that is all i was trying to say

(and i agree with what you said about the staff members)

With your lovely sentiments about our staff, don't be surprised if they refuse to mark your content as "newsworthy"

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Hectic Glenn]

Hey guys, have any of you noticed how much this game is like halo? Don't know if anyone noticed, just thought it was Halo 1 for a second Halo : Source (if it gets that far, considering what happened to the goldeneye mod)

 

[Praz]

Wow.
Concept was made by a fan, not in house.

In house stuff:

So before you go posting that you know everything there is to know, stop, and realize that you know nothing at all.

We are not Halo, That's been stated.
Second, Bungie won't be coming to us as this has been stated numerous times, please read up before looking even less intelligent.
We've had the permission to use the designs for the past 3-4 years now.

And Disturbed, if you don't download it, trust me, that won't hurt us in the least.
We're not making the game for you, we're making it for us and the people that appreciate hard work and a good game.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

we're making it for us and the people that appreciate hard work and a good game.

The irony of that statement.

 

[Beerdude26]

If people want to play Halo, they'll play Halo, not a mod that copies Halo.

Actually I don't want to play Halo, I want a game experience that isn't copy/paste three rooms 12 times after each other :|
So this will do

 

[Crispy]

I'd actually have to say they're fairly different. I'd also add that Halo wasn't so original itself, with that helmet brim it just looks like a paintball mask without the nose bridge. You could say a lot about Halo not being original and looking like other armour examples, but you don't because 'they're professionals'. Sooner or later you guys gotta realise that nothing these days is original, especially not something as functional as humanoid armour. There's only so far you can take a concept which has to be used by someone with human shape and proportions, and who will be performing actions with humanoid movements because of their humanoid body and limbs. Be realistic here.

 

[Jimmeh]

Well, Halo or not - I think it looks great. The first two map shots look very Half-Life 2 to me, but I've seen some of the fantastic open outdoor maps (best I've seen on source so far) the mod has.

Don't know what all the negativity is about, far far worse mods (not saying this looks bad) have been posted and got better responses. Just seems like arguing for the sake of it.

 

[CrazyHarij]

Second, Bungie won't be coming to us as this has been stated numerous times, please read up before looking even less intelligent.
We've had the permission to use the designs for the past 3-4 years now.

Maybe we should check up with Bungie and Microsoft whether that's true or not..

You're not the only ones trying to pull something like this off, you know.

I don't see much difference between the fan-art and the inhouse concept art. Same design, still awful and not particularly useful. But I guess that's the curse for most amateur mod projects, being stuck with poor design artists and team leaders, for instance. I don't think I've ever seen a HL2 mod team leader that isn't an utter douchebag.

 

[CrazyHarij]

Just wanted to quote something off the I-Source forums:

The Gladiator Vehicle is pretty much a copy of the Warthog model. Even the team itself does not deny it. The iSource team does not take credit for it. The model and textures, however, were created by them. The vehicle simply fits in the iSource universe and thats all there is to it. They do not take credit for the vehicle.

Honestly.. Do you really think this business works like that?

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I don't think I've ever seen a HL2 mod team leader that isn't an utter douchebag.

;(

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Sulkdodds]

While I think it's better to do original content, I don't particularly have a problem with nicking from Halo - steal from the best and all (particularly since they nicked half of their design/plot elements from Aliens and Consider Phlebas) - as long as the makers don't mind. And because I'm a nice person, I'll adopt a 'time will tell, proof of the pudding, etc' philosophy.

But the fact that it's been in development so long, the ripping-off and the utter arsiness of anyone involved in the mod whenever someone mentions Halo doesn't exactly make me jump up and down with excitement. :/

Sorry if that post seemed self-centric 'my opinion is important' - it's just what I think.

EDIT: Yeah but AL, if you're a douchebag, you're a loveable rogue douchebag.

 

[TeddyBear]

CrazyHarij, stop being an ass.

Nope, not much more to contribute to this thread, I don't like to get involved with the bullshit and badmouthing.

 

[OvA]

The box shouldn't say VALVe

and I JUST WON 15$ on COLO$$EUM CASINO! WOOHOO!

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Well, you all know my opinions, and the way I love to wave the lawyerstick around.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Praz]

How does someone like that Crazy guy even get hired?
Boggles my mind.

 

[Sulkdodds]

You know, I don't think they hire mods for being 'nice'.

I'm not really in a position to say this but I'd be a little more civil and stop with the personal insults when all he's doing is expressing his (admittedly perhaps harsh) opinion. An opinion which he's perfectly entitled to express when it concerns someone's mod work. :|

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

CrazyHarij, stop being an ass.

What, you didn't say me quit being an ass. Quit ganging up on the moderator that says he doesn't like the idea/concept/mod.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

How does someone like that Crazy guy even get hired?
Boggles my mind.

You really know how to get on the good side of the staff, hmm?

I consider Harij to be a good friend of mine, he's a good guy, and he knows what he's talking about. I'd prefer if you didn't attack him for expressing his opinions, the opinions which are shared by a large number of people.

You're definately going the right way to getting your mod's name blacklisted. Don't cry when people refuse to post news updates about it.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Praz]

If he is going to diss and harass my mod by making unnecessary, vulgar comments, then I will definitly share my input on his attitude and the way he displays it, whether they black list it or not, he needs to get his professional act together.

 

[TeddyBear]

What, you didn't say me quit being an ass. Quit ganging up on the moderator that says he doesn't like the idea/concept/mod.

I'm not, it's just that I know Crazy better than I know the rest of you (even though I do not know him very personally). Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but last post he made was just too much.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

If he is going to diss and harass my mod by making unnecessary, vulgar comments, then I will definitly share my input on his attitude and the way he displays it, whether they black list it or not, he needs to get his professional act together.

Professional act together. HAHAAHAH You're a class act, now go back to your Halo-ish Mod.