Is Self-Harm Always Wrong?

Tr0n said:
I'm gonna try and not laugh at that....

**** it...HAHAHAHAHA...*cough*
Yeah that's the reaction i usually get, understandably.
When people start talking to me when i'm out/at work e.t.c and they get on the topic of girls and i have to explain i'm not interested they are either shocked, like think i'm some sort of cyborg or something or just think i'm having a laugh.

I can't expect anyone to understand it, i know how important a partner is in a lot of humans lives.
 
I wouldn't call self inflicted harm right or wrong. I don't think any morality can or should be applied to it. To me its just a bad idea and a bad habit brought on by depressions that needs to be broken.
 
short recoil said:
Yeah that's the reaction i usually get, understandably.
When people start talking to me when i'm out/at work e.t.c and they get on the topic of girls and i have to explain i'm not interested they are either shocked, like think i'm some sort of cyborg or something or just think i'm having a laugh.

I can't expect anyone to understand it, i know how important a partner is in a lot of humans lives.
It's called love.

Dude just go out and get you a hooker or something if you don't want to get in that relationship partner type stuff.
 
short recoil said:
i'm some sort of cyborg or something

:LOL: I've got to be honest, that thought has crossed my mind more than once. :p
 
short recoil said:
Yeah that's the reaction i usually get, understandably.
When people start talking to me when i'm out/at work e.t.c and they get on the topic of girls and i have to explain i'm not interested they are either shocked, like think i'm some sort of cyborg or something or just think i'm having a laugh.

I can't expect anyone to understand it, i know how important a partner is in a lot of humans lives.

it's not that it's weird it's just unrealistic ...you cant fight your biological needs forever ..you'll explode


besides you're only 19, you've only had what 2-3 years of young adulthood ..you havent even scratched the surface of being an adult
 
The Mullinator said:
I wouldn't call self inflicted harm right or wrong. I don't think any morality can or should be applied to it. To me its just a bad idea and a bad habit brought on by depressions that needs to be broken.

you have a point, one persons pain is anothers pleasure
 
CptStern said:
it's not that it's weird it's just unrealistic ...you cant fight your biological needs forever ..you'll explode
Tell that to those damn monks in china.

Hell...I can't even go a day without masturbating. :LOL:
 
Tr0n said:
It's called love.

Dude just go out and get you a hooker or something if you don't want to get in that relationship partner type stuff.
Ahahaha, go out and get herpes, what a great idea.
Seriously though, i'm not really interested in sex or a relationship, i don't need it.

And don't anyone think i'm going to be a sad man for the rest of my life.
I'm ****ing happy :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

CptStern said:
it's not that it's weird it's just unrealistic ...you cant fight your biological needs forever ..you'll explode
Sex is not a biological need on the same level as the others.
I must eat to survive
I must draw in oxygen to survive
I must fight off illness to survive

I do not need to breed to survive, this is a biological need of reproduction.
I do not need to reproduce.
I cannot see any physical or mental harm in not breeding, if there was physical then i could always mechanically solve this :naughty:
Mentally, well i have great mental control.
 
Tr0n said:
Tell that to those damn monks in china.

Hell...I can't even go a day without masturbating. :LOL:

Have to meet your "beating quota"? :LOL:
It is an extreme way of thinking though, celibacy is usually religion related, never heard of someone simply wanting to be celibate. Well, til now.
 
Tr0n said:
Tell that to those damn monks in china.

Hell...I can't even go a day without masturbating. :LOL:


yes but the monks practice meditation for long periods of their lives to supress the urges ...I dont think most western people would be able to do the same


btw you're a teenager ..if you didnt masterbate daily you'd probably be humping this :naughty:
 
CptStern said:
yes but the monks practice meditation for long periods of their lives to supress the urges ...I dont think most western people would be able to do the same


btw you're a teenager ..if you didnt masterbate daily you'd probably be humping this :naughty:

Or this.
 
[asian accent]I tried to suppress it masta, but I have failed you once again.[/asian accent]
 
Tr0n said:
[asian accent]I tried to suppress it masta, but I have failed you once again.[/asian accent]
... Iz all over da meditation room masta. Big big mess. I feel shame.
 
SimonomiS said:
Hey, leave the poor fleshlight out of this! What did it ever do to you? Err... I should probably rephrase that question. What did it ever do to harm you?
 
The Mullinator said:
... Iz all over da meditation room masta. Big big mess. I feel shame.
I am teh masturbation masta.
 
If you are going to kill yourself, do it by eating a tubfull of beans.
 
SimonomiS said:
Or headbutting the pavement, I read Maddox too. :p
No, you would have to do the cadbury creme egg eyes one!
Then you would have my respect!
 
short recoil said:
No, you would have to do the cadbury creme egg eyes one!
Then you would have my respect!

Damnit, I'm all out of Creme Eggs. ;)
This threads gotten a tad spammy eh?
 
Personally I liked the holding your breath/strangling yourself one - that really DOES require some self-control :)

SimonomiS, I'm sorry to hear about all your troubles, mate. Like most people, I'd state the f*cking obvious and say what you already know that cutting yourself isn't right. I'm not saying that in moral terms - for that I wouldn't like to venture, and I don't think it makes a marked difference to whether one does or doesn't self-harm.
It must've been shitty, but honestly, I'd advise you talking about it with a specialist of some sort. Of course I haven't got an excellent grasp on the situation or surrounding elements. Take care of yourself though, dude.
 
When ever I'm sad I do a happy dance, I suggest you make your own happy dance.
 
SimonomiS said:
Or headbutting the pavement, I read Maddox too. :p


That was the point of the statement... Btw, Someone actually has killed themselves by eating too much in one sitting.
 
short recoil said:
Yeah that's the reaction i usually get, understandably.
When people start talking to me when i'm out/at work e.t.c and they get on the topic of girls and i have to explain i'm not interested they are either shocked, like think i'm some sort of cyborg or something or just think i'm having a laugh.

I can't expect anyone to understand it, i know how important a partner is in a lot of humans lives.

If you are trying to say that, you a without the need for most 'human' desires, or needs, then I'd just like to say that I have great respect for you.
 
Darkside55 said:
Write a song about it, emo kid. You're not nearly as deep as you think.

I never said I was deep, I'm just cynical.
 
short recoil said:
Yeah that's the reaction i usually get, understandably.
When people start talking to me when i'm out/at work e.t.c and they get on the topic of girls and i have to explain i'm not interested they are either shocked, like think i'm some sort of cyborg or something or just think i'm having a laugh.

I can't expect anyone to understand it, i know how important a partner is in a lot of humans lives.

Asexuality is a lot more widespread than you might think; if that's what it is you are describing. Do you get urges and suppress them, or do you just not have them?
 
My word, those fleshlights look awful !

Ofcourse they'd have to make my one look like a pool cue...ahem.
 
I had mine custom made out of 36" sluece pipe.
 
oldagerocker said:
My word, those fleshlights look awful !

Ofcourse they'd have to make my one look like a pool cue...ahem.

"The male equivilant of a vibrator"

I thought that would have been a vibrator in the butt.
 
jondyfun said:
Asexuality is a lot more widespread than you might think; if that's what it is you are describing. Do you get urges and suppress them, or do you just not have them?
I do get urges, mainly when i exercise heavily and i'm pumped up.
I used to be about 10 x worse when i was 15/16.
I suppress them easily by keeping logical at all times, i've suppresed them to such and extent that they arn't really there any more.
The main reasons i avoid getting a mate/partner whatever are the fact i do not require children, i do not want someone to be dependant on me, i don't really need sex and of course i am always completely free.

Sex drive causes a lot of problems in humans, it is yet another thing i don't have to worry about, i don't give a damn what i look like, i don't have to "impress" anyone (i'm not a ****ing peacock anyway)

Anyway i'm happy with my choice so all is good.


>>FrEnZy<< said:
Don't you ever get lonely recoil?
Not really, i've always been a really, really quiet person, i'm not the sort that requires much company of other humans.
while i enjoy company of women, that is enough.
I don't like to blow my own trumpet but i'm very much a "lone wolf"
 
short recoil said:
I do get urges, mainly when i exercise heavily and i'm pumped up.
I used to be about 10 x worse when i was 15/16.
I suppress them easily by keeping logical at all times, i've suppresed them to such and extent that they arn't really there any more.
The main reasons i avoid getting a mate/partner whatever are the fact i do not require children, i do not want someone to be dependant on me, i don't really need sex and of course i am always completely free.

Sex drive causes a lot of problems in humans, it is yet another thing i don't have to worry about, i don't give a damn what i look like, i don't have to "impress" anyone (i'm not a ****ing peacock anyway)

Anyway i'm happy with my choice so all is good.



Not really, i've always been a really, really quiet person, i'm not the sort that requires much company of other humans.
while i enjoy company of women, that is enough.
I don't like to blow my own trumpet but i'm very much a "lone wolf"

While I've always thought it'd be great to be able to live life without the basic needs interfering with life, fulfilling these basic needs can be enjoyable.

For example, eating makes you feel good, having sex makes you feel good.
Hell, if you don't want any dependents, you could still have sex, just get a vasectomy.

I know what you mean by not involving other human beings, people tend to be idiots about the smallest of matters. But it's something you need to face in life if you don't want a hermit lifestyle in a barn.
And facing people will make you a stronger person in the end.
And there's nothing wrong with having human urges, it's one of the things that defines being alive.
But well done for supressing the sexual urge, that's the equivilant of giving up eating or breathing in some people.
 
Is self harm wrong? Not at all, its better then hurting me.

You keep at it.
 
short recoil said:
I do get urges, mainly when i exercise heavily and i'm pumped up.
I used to be about 10 x worse when i was 15/16.
I suppress them easily by keeping logical at all times, i've suppresed them to such and extent that they arn't really there any more.
The main reasons i avoid getting a mate/partner whatever are the fact i do not require children, i do not want someone to be dependant on me, i don't really need sex and of course i am always completely free.

Sex drive causes a lot of problems in humans, it is yet another thing i don't have to worry about, i don't give a damn what i look like, i don't have to "impress" anyone (i'm not a ****ing peacock anyway)

Anyway i'm happy with my choice so all is good.



Not really, i've always been a really, really quiet person, i'm not the sort that requires much company of other humans.
while i enjoy company of women, that is enough.
I don't like to blow my own trumpet but i'm very much a "lone wolf"
Bad thing to decide at 19.
 
Ennui said:
Bad thing to decide at 19.

Agreed. The one thing I'm scared of most is dieing alone. The thought absolutely terrifies me. I think, if you look at it deeper, most people get depressed over relationship failiures not because they need the sex (although, they invaribly want it), but because they know they've no longer got someone to confide their secrets to, got nobody to be there for them.
Or at least, that's my way of looking at it.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
most people get depressed over relationship failiures not because they need the sex (although, they invaribly want it), but because they know they've no longer got someone to confide their secrets to, got nobody to be there for them.r

That's what I most missed when I broke up a year ago. Not the girl, but the being in love. It was awesome.

Not having that anymore is.. strange.
 
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