Islamist record: 1-year-old unwitting suicide bomber

[Nemesis6]

...Meanwhile, horrifying new details emerged last night of the attempt by suicide bombers to kill Ms Bhutto on her return home from exile last month.

Investigators from Ms Bhutto?s Pakistan People?s Party said yesterday they believed the bomb, which killed 170 people and left hundreds more wounded, was strapped to a one-year-old child carried by its jihadist father.

They said the suicide bomber tried repeatedly to carry the baby to Ms Bhutto?s vehicle as she drove in a late-night cavalcade through the streets of Karachi.

?At the point where the bombs exploded, Benazir Bhutto herself saw the man with the child and asked him to come closer so that she could hug or kiss the infant,? investigators were reported as saying. ?But someone came in between and a guard felt that the man with the child was not behaving normally. So the child was not allowed to come aboard Benazir?s vehicle.?

Ms Bhutto is said to have told investigators she recalls the face of the man who was carrying the infant. She has asked to see recordings made by television news channels to try to identify the man.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22793111-25837,00.html

So now, they're tied with the Iraqis/Syrians/Iranians/Sudanese/Saudi Arabs/Jordanians/Egyptians in Iraq who used a mentally retarded boy to bomb the polling stations on election day. This is a close race.

 

[Tagaziel]

"Believed" is the key word here.

Also, it defies logic - a one yeard old with enough explosives to kill 170 people would look rather conspicuous.

 

[Nemesis6]

Well, I still think it's plausible, because it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. I don't really think you need to stack the child with explosives from head to toe - This was a close gathering of people, so it could have been done in a number of ways.

 

[Ennui]

Sorry, but if you're an infant, you're not a suicide bomber. Also I find it hard to believe that 170 people could be killed by a bomb small enough to be concealed on the person of a 1-year-old without it looking obvious.

 

[kirovman]

Agreed. A one year old is physically not capable of intentionally killing themselves, let alone making the decision to do so.

The one year old was a murder victim of this bombing. Barbarism, that's what it is.

 

[Minister]

I'm pretty sure that the post was intended to point out this 'barbarism' rather than accuse the child of being a suicide bomber.

I think it's plausible. As said before, this was a close gathering of people, lots of explosives wouldn't have been necessary. Then again I have no idea how many explosives are needed for a big 'boom'.

 

[Tagaziel]

Well, I still think it's plausible, because it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. I don't really think you need to stack the child with explosives from head to toe - This was a close gathering of people, so it could have been done in a number of ways.

True, it would also depend on the type of the explosive used. I'm no expert and only peripherally interested, but maybe semtex?

 

[Emporius]

It also depends on whether shrapnel materials were used.

All in all it was a terrible tragedy.

 

[Ennui]

I'm pretty sure that the post was intended to point out this 'barbarism' rather than accuse the child of being a suicide bomber.

The post, yes. I was commenting mostly on the annoyingly inflammatory thread title.

As far as plausibility goes, 170 people is an awful lot to blow to pieces with a bomb small enough to be concealed on an infant that's about 2 feet long. Even if they were pressed together, that seems unlikely to me, but my opinion here isn't very qualified since I don't know much about explosives.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

The Durkanese strike again!

So now they block butsecks from their adults so they can allow more babies to be produced? WOW, baby bomber factories is a step lower then the hairy ballzonia they already are.


SAD

 

[Nemesis6]

Just to address a few posts here - The boy didn't have to do it. These things can easily be detonated remotely.

 

[cyk]

The Durkanese strike again!

Please tell me that you are talking about extremists and not Muslims

(by the way I'm not surprised you're a South Park Republican)

 

[CptStern]

here's definate proof of the existence of Terrorist Tots Training Camp, where Bhuttos would be assassin trained

their latest projects:

chemical and biological weapons

the "No one will ever suspect this is a bomb" bomb

the suicide Kamikazi commando ready to be thrown at unsuspecting passerbys at a moments notice

the "no one will ever suspect this is a nuke" bomb

and finally, the disposable baby bottle of mass destruction

 

[Nemesis6]

Please tell me that you are talking about extremists and not Muslims

(by the way I'm not surprised you're a South Park Republican)

Which is why I said Islamists! :-S

 

[Emporius]

here's definate proof of the existence of Terrorist Tots Training Camp, where Bhuttos would be assassin trained

their latest projects:

chemical and biological weapons

the "No one will ever suspect this is a bomb" bomb

the suicide Kamikazi commando ready to be thrown at unsuspecting passerbys at a moments notice

the "no one will ever suspect this is a nuke" bomb

and finally, the disposable baby bottle of mass destruction

CptStern, you are a bloody genius

 

[Ennui]

Just to address a few posts here - The boy didn't have to do it. These things can easily be detonated remotely.

He's not a suicide bomber unless he knows what the hell is going on and is choosing to kill himself in order to kill others.

 

[Nemesis6]

Hmm, good point. Boy-bomb will suffice then! :-/

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

Please tell me that you are talking about extremists and not Muslims

(by the way I'm not surprised you're a South Park Republican)

I meant that to any and all people who believe that doing what was done was right.

Durka = Terrorist

And I'm not a southpark republican.

I hate republicans, I hate democrats, I hate the lot of all who call themselves politicians. There are few that I actually consider real Americans in that position.

 

[15357]

Let's say that the gathering was tightly packed, and about a radius of 25 to 30 meters. Depending on the material of the surrounding walls or the openness of the area, you'd need about a kilo and a half of C4, with lots of sharapnel (coins would suffice).



So yeah, you could strap it on to an infant.





Anyhow, yes, very barbaric, the poor infant.... And the father is one ****ed up bastard.

 

[kirovman]

Anyhow, yes, very barbaric, the poor infant.... And the father is one ****ed up bastard.

Assuming the father isn't already 5-years dead.

 

[Eejit]

here's definate proof of the existence of Terrorist Tots Training Camp, where Bhuttos would be assassin trained

their latest projects:

chemical and biological weapons

the "No one will ever suspect this is a bomb" bomb

the suicide Kamikazi commando ready to be thrown at unsuspecting passerbys at a moments notice

the "no one will ever suspect this is a nuke" bomb

and finally, the disposable baby bottle of mass destruction

Wow I'm not usually uptight about things but that's amazingly disrespectful imo.

 

[Solaris]

Just to address a few posts here - The boy didn't have to do it. These things can easily be detonated remotely.

Well duh.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

If a 1 year old had the capacity to make rational decisions, then yea, duh.

 

[15357]

Assuming the father isn't already 5-years dead.

Now that I think of it, the guy prolly wasn't even the father. :/

 

[CptStern]

Wow I'm not usually uptight about things but that's amazingly disrespectful imo.

hey you're entitled to your opinion. I thought it was funny; that's really all that matters


anyways most of you dont "get" the unspoken rivalry between Nemesis and I, although "rivalvry" isnt entirely accurate, I'd call it that if I actually believed nemesis capable of being my rival (which is more about what he brings to the table in terms of credible information/sources than a comment on his debating ability which is admittedly suspect but not really my point). In any event sometimes it's too subtle to be seen by casual users not used to it

 

[Lt. Drebin]

Wow I'm not usually uptight about things but that's amazingly disrespectful imo.

...and spam ftm... :|

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Also, it defies logic - a one yeard old with enough explosives to kill 170 people would look rather conspicuous.

I'd theorize the bomb was being carried by the father, and he took his son with him so as not to be alone in the after life.

But don't blame the kid for it -- a one year old does not understand martyrdom.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

If he did, He'd do an |censored| jihad for big bird

 

[K e r b e r o s]

I don't know what the censored is, but I know it has something to do with Jihad and Big Bird. I guess that's all that matters.

So, how do they even propose the boy wore it? The explosive I mean.

 

[Crazy_killer]

That's a record to be proud of, Allah will have mercy on ju!!!?1

 

[No Limit]

Well, I still think it's plausible, because it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. I don't really think you need to stack the child with explosives from head to toe - This was a close gathering of people, so it could have been done in a number of ways.

Well sure its plausible to you. He was muslim, what more evidance do you need.

 

[CptStern]

hey I wonder what he would say if knew that Bhutto gave aid to the taliban?

TONY JONES: Let me ask you this, do you going back into history a bit, do you take any responsibility yourself for the rise of fundamentalist Islam in Pakistan?

After all, it was during your second term as PM that Pakistan sponsored the birth of the Taliban, sent them into Afghanistan.

BENAZIR BHUTTO: Yes, that's partially true and certainly there is a perception. In retrospect, having seen what the Taliban did, I would say that was a wrong decision by our part.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/stories/s609909.htm

Support for the Taliban under Bhutto resided mainly in the interior ministry, according to some analysts. According to Ahmed Rashid, Bhutto's interior minister, Gen. Naseerullah Babar, created the Afghan Trade Development Cell in the ministry ostensibly to promote trade routes to Central Asia but also to provide the Taliban with funds. Moreover, says Rashid, the state-owned Pakistan Telecommunications Corporation set up a telephone network for the Taliban; the public works department repaired roads and provided electricity; the paramilitary Frontier Corps, a part of the interior ministry, set up a wireless network for Taliban commanders; the Civil Aviation Authority repaired Qandahar airport and Taliban fighter jets; and Radio Pakistan provided technical support to the Taliban's official radio service, Radio Shariat

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/afghan2/Afghan0701-02.htm

 

[K e r b e r o s]

hey I wonder what he would say if knew that Bhutto gave aid to the taliban?

Supposedly -- for all we know it could be just spin.

 

[CptStern]

Supposedly -- for all we know it could be just spin.

"supposedly" ..way to prove yet again you couldnt be bothered to read the supplied evidence, even though it's in the post above yours AND is as plain as day:

After all, it was during your second term as PM that Pakistan sponsored the birth of the Taliban, sent them into Afghanistan.

BENAZIR BHUTTO: Yes, that's partially true and certainly there is a perception. In retrospect, having seen what the Taliban did, I would say that was a wrong decision by our part.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

BENAZIR BHUTTO: Yes, that's partially true and certainly there is a perception. In retrospect, having seen what the Taliban did, I would say that was a wrong decision by our part.

Her answer is very wishy-washy, so, assuming it was from within the internior ministry that support was growing ... I'm lost.

Give a moment.

 

[CptStern]

what? she said it, Benazir Bhutto ..directly from the horses mouth ..and saying "yes" isnt at all wishy washy

 

[Absinthe]

I heard that babies in the Middle East are born with explosives strapped to their chests.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

 

[kirovman]

what? she said it, Benazir Bhutto ..directly from the horses mouth ..and saying "yes" isnt at all wishy washy

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