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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/06/email-obscenity/#more-6339

It's an interesting article, you should read it.

Sharing an obscene sexual fantasy over e-mail is a federal crime that enjoys no protection under the First Amendment, a federal appeals court said Monday, in a decision that drew sharp dissent from one judge and potentially set the stage for a Supreme Court appeal.

In a 10-1 decision, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals declined to rehear the case of Dwight Whorley, a Virginia man whose criminal trial marked two firsts for the American justice system: the first conviction for possession of obscene Japanese manga, and the first for authoring pornographic fiction and sending it over e-mail.
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More surprisingly, prosecutors charged him under an older statute outlawing the possession of “any obscene, lewd, lascivious or filthy book, pamphlet, picture, motion-picture film, paper, letter, writing, print or other matter of indecent character” as defined by a jury. That violation was for writing out his sexual fantasies involving children, and e-mailing them to like-minded internet friends. Though Whorely is apparently a pedophile, the law applies to any obscene content.
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I'll miss a lot of you. And I'll continue to ask you to stop sending me those!
 
****ing bullshit law. Not only for prosecuting someone for something that harms no one, but also because it's so ****ing vague. Laws should be well defined.
 
This picture depicts two children having sexual intercourse.

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Guess I'm going to jail now then...
 
Who cares I'm in Canada... We have a porn channel that shows JUST anime ffs.
 
This has been sweeping around nations like wildfire. It won't be long before Canada follows suit.
 
It was nice knowing you vegeta.



I'm kidding...
 
Raziaar said:
It won't be long before Canada follows suit.
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Under Harper's current '**** what the overwhelming majority of the professional community say' tactics, maybe. But hopefully we'll get him out of Parliament asap.
 
we already have anti-obscenty laws in canada


...but this is the US. where are all the people who continually scream freedom of speech whever someone makes a racist remark? surely this would draw more attention than Don Imus Nappy remarks
 
*mass deletion commencing*
 
good riddance if you like loli or child pr0n or anything like that you're a vile shithead no excuses

although the wider implications of anti obscenity bills like that are disturbing
 
Ennui said:
good riddance if you like loli or child pr0n or anything like that you're a vile shithead no excuses
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I think you're a nice guy too.

Maybe you can explain why I'm a vile shithead for liking harmless drawings?

Look I can be ignorant too:

If you smoke pot you are a vile shithead.

Oh sorry man I didn't mean to offend you with my incredibly ignorant and ridiculous statement.
 
Ennui said:
good riddance if you like loli or child pr0n or anything like that you're a vile shithead no excuses

although the wider implications of anti obscenity bills like that are disturbing
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This.

Yes the law itself is disturbing. It's way too vague and wide-open for abuse, but your still a sick weirdo nevertheless if you like child porn.
 
I'm still waiting for the day Cyberpitz appears on Dateline: 'To Catch A Predator'
 
Saturos said:
This.

Yes the law itself is disturbing. It's way too vague and wide-open for abuse, but your still a sick weirdo nevertheless if you like child porn.
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Child porn is another story entirely from drawings.

Agreed wholeheartedly about child porn.
 
It's simulated child porn for people too afraid to make the leap to the real thing.


Oh no he didn't!
 
You mean like, people who have morality and a sense of right and wrong? You know, aspects of a person that are completely unaffected by pedophilia.
 
So Veg, are you sexually aroused by "drawings" of pre-teen children?
 
Raziaar said:
It's simulated child porn for people too afraid to make the leap to the real thing.


Oh no he didn't!
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First person shooters are simulated manslaughter and genocide for people too afraid to do it in real life.
 
Calhoun said:
First person shooters are simulated manslaughter and genocide for people too afraid to do it in real life.
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It's just every time I think about doing it for real, my hands start to tremble. When I'm gripping that mouse, it's steady.

It's steady.
 
Shitstorm approaching.
 
I think it makes sense as Ennui holds strong opinions on plenty of subjects (damn straight). But I do think it's out of logical step with the rest of yo' politics, dude. Since when did you subscribe the wisdom of repugnance?

The Monkey said:
So Veg, are you sexually aroused by "drawings" of pre-teen children?
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A relevant question! I demand everyone answer it before they are allowed to post in the thread.

Viperidae said:
Harper's current '**** what the overwhelming majority of the professional community say' tactics
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Ha, this is common to almost all politicians. I've been doing a linguistics unit this term and it's incredible the extent to which journalists and statesmen just completely ignore, or even acknowledge and mock, the scholars. It's not that I necessarily have a trust in academia: 'leave it to the knowledgeable' can so easily lead to 'leave it to institution x'. But it's like "ha, those crazy guys who've made it their life's work to study this phenomenon are wrong. I know better, and unlike them, I am not so weak as to need an evidential justification!"
 
Sulkdodds said:
Ha, this is common to almost all politicians. I've been doing a linguistics unit this term and it's incredible the extent to which journalists and statesmen just completely ignore, or even acknowledge and mock, the scholars.
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Off-topic: Oxford Linguistics -> Politics? Huh?

Or did your studies pertain to literacy and education?

Sulkdodds said:
But it's like "ha, those crazy guys who've made it their life's work to study this phenomenon are wrong. I know better, and unlike them, I am not so weak as to need an evidential justification!"
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I'd rather they stick to pure emotionalism than quotemine--at least that way they stay on the verge of incredibility (or at least, unsubstantiated to the point where it would be easy for an intelligent person to take them apart) to the masses.

AND SULK DOUBLE POST WAT.
 
Double post because Jekyll and Hyde.

I didn't mean to seem like I was butting in with "Oh yeah I know listen to this"! Linguistics feeds into the politics of 'declining' language, correctness, Standard English, what kind(s) of english should be taught in schools, regional grammars, 'political correctness', etc. More often than not these are tied into debates about the state of the nation, youth culture, education policy, 'declining values' and so on. Suffice to say that there's rarely any kind of descriptive basis for prescriptive opinions.
 
This is one of those things that is colossally stupid, but ultimately it doesn't inspire much opposition. The law is only as ridiculous as the stuff it prohibits.
 
What say do these mindless ****s have what people send in their own PRIVATE e.mails? Are they going to start going through are post next? Is nothing sacred? What is the big ****ing deal with PORN? Why is sex considered EVIL? it's just SEX! For god's sake... I want to commit mass murder every time one of these dumbshits comes up with a new law, that is just going to cost my family more tax money, and will fail and cease to be in a few weeks. This is getting ridiculous.

EDIT: Minus the child pornography. The guy can burn for that, for all I care. I just view this whole thing as an invasion of privacy.
 
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