It's here. Many of you are going to prison.

Why is it that this is the one of the few subjects that stays on topic?
 
A person who likes drawings but doesn't find real children attractive. The public mentality doesn't factor in these kinds of people, it's an automatic "Drawings of fictional minors? POTENTIAL CHILD RAPIST!"

There is a reason why I do not publicly discuss such subjects.

But on the other hand, I can completely empathize with Stern. Seriously now, wouldn't even you, Vegeta, be cautious if you had children and they were in the company of someone who confessed to looking at simulated pictures of naked children, or writing fictional erotic stories about children? You can't be too certain of their motives, even if you know your own.

Would this ever happen though? I mean sure I'd be iffy about letting my kids (god forbid I have kids) hang out with such a person. However in all likelihood I'd never know whether or not such a person liked the stuff.
 
1) spreading false information with malicious intent on the internet

2) flaming people

3) sharing porn on the internet

Your country... is stupid.

Sorry, I had to say it.


I should actually narrow that down a bit.

Your laws... are stupid.
 
I like how the US is following the example of the great honorable Republic of Korea. Where you can be sentenced to jail terms for

1) spreading false information with malicious intent on the internet

2) flaming people

3) sharing porn on the internet

lol'd

As a person who dislikes porn in general because of its dehumanizing and corrupting nature

lol'd again
 
Pedophilia is a lot like a sexual orientation judging from what I have read on the subject. Its not really a choice that you make, and not something you can control your thoughts about. It just is what it is. But, just like any sexual orientation, you can control your urges because you're still a human being who can make ethical choices, and who naturally wants to cause no harm to an innocent person. Child molesters are to pedophiles as rapists are to hetero/homosexuals. Being gay or straight isnt immoral, being a gay/straight rapist is. Saying pedophilia is sick and wrong is very, very similar to saying homosexuality is wrong. I don't see a case for either statement, unless the subject at hand is violating another person's well being.
 
Your country... is stupid.

Sorry, I had to say it.


I should actually narrow that down a bit.

Your laws... are stupid.

I think we're prolly the future of all other information-ridden nations. 38 million people in this country of 50 million use the internet on a daily basis, and the entire city of Seoul, the capital (population 14 million) has a citywide wireless internet connection, and problems are going to rise from this. Most likely, other nations, as their internet infrastructure develops, will follow our example. We, on the other hand, will go through a trial and error process that is going to be one step furthur than other nations.














Sooner or later, I'm expecting my country to come up with Judge Dredd/Warhammer 40k Adeptus Arbites style rule of law.

lol'd



lol'd again

Why did I read that as loli'd?

Pedophilia is a lot like a sexual orientation judging from what I have read on the subject. Its not really a choice that you make, and not something you can control your thoughts about. It just is what it is. But, just like any sexual orientation, you can control your urges because you're still a human being who can make ethical choices, and who naturally wants to cause no harm to an innocent person. Child molesters are to pedophiles as rapists are to hetero/homosexuals. Being gay or straight isnt immoral, being a gay/straight rapist is. Saying pedophilia is sick and wrong is very, very similar to saying homosexuality is wrong. I don't see a case for either statement, unless the subject at hand is violating another person's well being.

Sooooooooooo, if she says yes, does it matter if she's 14? :E
 
I think we're prolly the future of all other information-ridden nations. 38 million people in this country of 50 million use the internet on a daily basis, and the entire city of Seoul, the capital (population 14 million) has a citywide wireless internet connection, and problems are going to rise from this. Most likely, other nations, as their internet infrastructure develops, will follow our example. We, on the other hand, will go through a trial and error process that is going to be one step furthur than other nations.

But, this...?

1) spreading false information with malicious intent on the internet

2) flaming people

3) sharing porn on the internet

Bunch of bitches, pussies and prudes right there!
 
But, this...?



Bunch of bitches, pussies and prudes right there!

Yeah, well, it's putting offline laws to cyberspace. You can sue someone for libel in real life, why can't you do it online? Porn has always been illegal, off-line or online, so that's understandable (personally, I think it's because of Japan; we want to be the 'anti-Japan' :p).

False information with malicious intent.... well that goes under the vast powers of the current 'Distruption of administration/functions laws'. They try to prevent people from causing harm to others, and things on the internet spread fast.

Google thought this was bad for buisiness, so they locked out Koreans from youtube as a form of protest against the laws, but those laws have seriously become a sort of defence against the entire internet becoming 4chan.
 
Soon, real life will become 4chan instead!
 
Soon, real life will become 4chan instead!

That would be the day when I go around shouting "I WILL DEFEND THE RULE OF LAW, WITH MY LIFE IF NECESSARY!" and shooting random hooligans with a shotgun that I will dub "The Lawbringer".
 
Yeesh Vegeta, you really need to find yourself a girlfriend.

Sorry, what?

Don't get pissy with me just because you made a fool out of yourself by saying something ignorant and everyone tore you down.

Edit: Krynn's post is really good I think. I have actually been thinking about making that same comparison but was sort of afraid of people not agreeing with it. I think it's a fair comparison to make. How can you say someone is bad for indulging in an interest they did not CHOOSE to have, in a completely harmless manner?
 
Yeah, fortunately/unfortunately, it's simply not legal (at least in the US)
 
I can understand child pornography being illegal, and it should be. A real child was actually abused or taken advantage of in order to produce it. Anything else that doesnt involve a real child should not be illegal. Thoughts and harmless artworks should never be against the law. Whether you think they're immoral, perverted, or whatever else doesnt really matter, because that is all subjective. The only way to look at it objectively is to determine whether the act of viewing or producing the work is harmful.

Now of course, someone might claim that viewing such content might make someone more inclined to harm a child, but we have seen many instances in various parts of life where a minor indulgence actually will stave off major ones. Having some freedoms doesnt mean there will be total anarchy, but if you oppress people then theres a much higher chance of revolt.

Ya'know?

Also, didnt some judge in russia or something declare that drawn characters are legally real humans? Major WTF at that.
 
Yeesh Vegeta, you really need to find yourself a girlfriend.

Wow. I can see that you have responded to his reasoning and arguments in a mature, structured way that suits your position of trust and authority within the community.

:( I know you're a nice guy, please don't act in such a way during a civil discussion.
 
You guys should watch Little Children. You might learn something.

I watched Little Children.

I still retain my views. You can't paint all pedophiles with that tragedy brush.
 
I certainly wasn't suggesting that all of anyone is anything. When I said you might learn something, I was talking about an example of a pedophile. He is a weirdo and people are scared of him, but is relatively harmless.
 
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That would be the day when I go around shouting "I WILL DEFEND THE RULE OF LAW, WITH MY LIFE IF NECESSARY!" and shooting random hooligans with a shotgun that I will dub "The Lawbringer".

Not without me you won't!

Although I don't care much as for the law as you, I'd rather destroy society than watch it become 4chan.
 
Although I don't care much as for the law as you, I'd rather destroy society than watch it become 4chan.
Too late.

BTW, I visited that site lately. I thought these forums were full of hateful pricks. (some of you will probably argue I'm one of them)

In comparison, 4chan makes us all look like a bunch of lovey-dovey, peace-mongering hippies.
 
I really wish that "4chan" was a bannable word on HL2.net. Considering most people here actually don't know what they're talking about when it comes to the site, and the fact that it's become the butt of every joke on here. Case in point:

Saturos said:
I visited that site lately.

4chan makes us all look like a bunch of lovey-dovey, peace-mongering hippies.
You're full of shit and you know it. No, shut up, you're full of shit. You are actually lying in order to try and prove a stupid point and make 4chan seem deplorable in comparison to HL2.net in terms of people being assholes to each other, but considering that no actual HATE has occurred since probably late 2007, shut up fag.

Even /b/ doesn't hate anymore. It's become /s/ lite for chubby chicks.





Anyway you may now return to your discussion about lolis and shit.
 
I was half-expecting another four-paragraph rant about "The Old Days" of etc. and so on, Darkside.
 
Never been to /b/, 4chan or whatever letter you use. /s/, /k/, /u/ etc.

True story. I figure why bother when, if someone posts anything fun there, it will be caped and posted here.
 
/s/ - WHO IS THAT GIRL NAME PLZ SAUCE PLZ OMG SET PLZ RAPIDSHIT NAO

/k/ - That isn't a gun. THIS is a gun. Also, Putin is a true man.

/u/ - Girls kissing girls. Not kissing you.

/b/ -

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So, how long before tentacles become outlawed?

I mean illustrations of tentacles. If you have pictures of the real thing, you are sick and wrong.
 
Why would you post a picture from the boxart of that shitty Turok: Evolution game Darkside? Why would you remind me of painful memories? :(
 
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